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Goons in a black Scorpio had an altercation with a group of bikers which soon took a violent turn. They were taken into custody but only got a slap on the wrist probably due to political connections. It happened in Gurugram.

I will hold my judgement till we have proper evidence of the events that ultimately led to this brawl. Biker groups in NCR are infamous for pissing off even innocent road users with their actions, though that does not seem to be the case here.

https://youtu.be/2MZLbSw9GYM?feature=shared

Thanks for sharing this. After watching the footage, it's clear that both parties were at fault and acted as aggressors. All three individuals should be held accountable and face consequences not just the biker.

Regarding the Bangalore road rage incident, what upsets me is the playing as victim video by IAF officer. In a road rage, people get blinded by rage and get into fight as situation escalates. People can behave in heated moment like this as they get out of control.

But this fellow after all this while going to airport made a clever video where he told lies about how helplessly he was attacked and very cleverly made it a localite vs outsider issue and that 'innocent army people are getting beaten in Bangalore'. Then he spread the video through his contacts and soon it was all over social media and news channels. That's very irresponsible and dangerous i.e it could spread more anger and hatred.

He probably didn't think it would become such a hot issue and as a result cctv footage would be pulled all over. Tables have turned against him.

You may have biker groups pissing off innocent folks, but absolutely NOTHING justifies violence.

You may reserve your judgment, but my judgment on this is clear:

Violence needs to be dealt with appropriately by the police and administration. There is no justification for violence. We live in a civilized society (or at least, I hope) and there is no place for violence in civilized society, regardless of any action by any one.

These days, I make it a point to go through this thread and the 'Accidents in India' thread before every road trip.
It’s a harsh but necessary reminder of the lack of civic sense, empathy, and basic courtesy on our roads. :Frustrati
It reinforces my commitment to drive defensively, stay calm, and let go—even when the fault isn't mine. My life is far more valuable than feeding my ego (and other's) in a moment of anger or conflict.

In all probability, there must have been some provocation from the biker group as well. Some reports suggested that they showed them the middle finger while overtaking.

BUT...

Does that in any way justify what these Scorpio Goons did ? Absolutely No.

And seeing visuals of one of the goon hitting a biker with a baseball bat right on the head (thank god he was wearing a helmet), why are the authorities shying away from booking the culprits under more serious and non-bailable offence like "Attempt to murder" ?

This "before and After reels" and making them recite sorry, is a mere whitewash, a joke on our law and order system. This particular group of goons is already wealthy (and shameless at the same time), so making them sit down and say sorry in public would do nothing to deter their evil intentions in future.

It only gives a strong message to the anti-socials, that if you have money and power and political connections, you can get away with virtually anything in this country.

SHAME !

After seeing the video you shared what I could notice is this:

The biker rode in a rash manner (possibily hit the officer's car) due to which the lady commented "how are you driving?" Then the officer pushed the bike to the ground and the biker smacked the officer's head, following which the officer shook the biker like a rag doll, hit him against the electric pole and pulled off his helmet.

In the sequence of events:

Biker damaged the officers car.
Officer damaged the bike.
Biker hit the officer.
Officer thrashed the biker.

Some random street thug instigated the biker to smash a brick on the officers car.

Problem is people who break rules do not know what rule they broke and when someone points it out they get agitated. If they had know the rule and even if it is their mistake, their EGO won't let him accept it.

The case with Vikas and Shiladitya (IAF), is the same. Vikas might have hit their car and when pointed out got out and wanted to be the GUNDA.

The second guy turned out to be bigger GUNDA.

When Vikas got hit, fell and played victim, brought language, localite, social status, job status etc.

Always there is a bigger ROUGE ..people should remember when picking up a fight.

When Vikas hit his bike, did he represent all localites? when he wanted a fight did he represent all localites.

Always think, accept if it is your mistake and firstly be aware of the rules.

Each road rage incident over (sometimes) trivial mistakes makes me shudder and also reflect at the state of traffic enforcement.

• The parties involved can perceive the slightest of violations but the traffic cop cannot act on the most blatant ones under his nose.
  
• Justice is meted on the spot since there is hardly any trust in a cop coming to the scene quickly and going about his job impartially.
  
• More often traffic cops are expected to only keep the traffic moving and that is more than a full time job.

I have no hope nor can have any self esteem on our city roads in particular.

Pretty clear from the video that the 'officer' is the guy who started the fight.

Are you talking about the same incident? It's this 'officer' guy who brought up language, job, social status etc.

Just didn't expect it to be an officer of the armed forces. They are supposed to be gentlemen defend our citizens, not attack them.

So all this is based on 'might have'? You are ok with some bully in (or out of) uniform beating up some guy two sizes smaller than him based on 'might have'? Is there any real proof, because I haven't seen it in the video above.


When someone hits your car, take note of the incident and the details and file a report and claim insurance. That's the law. There are no 'rules' that supersede the law.

In one of the video, Vikas's bike in the middle of the road, in front of the car.
The way Vikas got out was clearly to pick a fight. But he end up with a bigger opponent.
Later that bike was dragged and made to fall when the fight started.
Clearly this is clash of EGOs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CceS...cJCdgAo7VqN5tD

Spotted, a believer in tribal mob justice, akin to banana republics where mobs can teach a lesson!
And I am not passing any judgements yet!
PS; like by error

You picked up late! The accident has already happened behind the truck and at second 00:05 of the video the biker's front tyres are seen as he initially parks his bike to go back and respond to the IAF officer's car which is hidden by the parked truck.

It's a clear case of road rage from both parties with the biker having abused the lady(happens behind the parked truck evident by the screaming) for whatever reason - and then the fight started spiralling out of control (not to mention the hysterical lady adding to the chaos):crying. I must appreciate the quality of audio video recording of the CCTV.

A sad state of Bangalore traffic - a narrowish road with improperly parked vehicles and bystanders being just that, except for one or two good Samaritans trying to break it up. Both parties not backing off- one hitting and the other getting hit but verbally ballistic and not helping the situation he created!

Metro cities need soft music playing on the roads, not the horn kind playing in the background. lol:

My statement of counting broken bones is not a mob threat; this can happen to anyone assaulting a person. What if the situation goes out of control? At least have sense and patience when there are women and kids with you; they are the easy target. But the extent of muscle power shown by the IAF guy and then spreading false stories is not what we expect from a guy working in the defense force.

@Freespirit27, As far as the video is concerned, I see a person resembling the IAF guy in the co-driver seat of Maruti car. So his wife may have driven the car and some passing comments has created the whole situation.

No, I am not against or for anyone, clearly mentioned but certainly pointed out your justification of mob justice (of broken bones threat!). And I don't know how that is deduced

Mobs almost never make right decisions. Almost invariably they decide with the flow of emotions, almost always biased, anywhere. There is a reason there is something called "mob justice" disparagingly.

What's sad is people who are not part of the mob on this forum lack objectivity, irrespective of who is wrong or right!

Saying this because I have seen lots of "mob behavior" myself first hand. Their sense of righteousness wakes up only when there is a couple of (generally) hapless fellows to beat/lynch and rest of the time, they ignore any crime/wrongdoings going on.