Team-BHP - Road Rage - Understanding, Avoidance and De-escalating Situation

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Originally Posted by self_driven (Post 5833844)

Can't believe people on Team-BHP are justifying the criminal behaviour of the Audi driver! The cab driver's act of tailing the other car looks intentional but the nudge clearly wasn't.

Nowhere in my post I have justified the violence. My point is that this incident has nothing to do with rich vs poor, this is another case of road rage. And, if one does get in such situation and can't get away like the driver in video, it is much safer to stay inside locked vehicle and wait for police.

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Originally Posted by cryptarchy (Post 5833848)

My point is that this incident has nothing to do with rich vs poor, this is another case of road rage. And, if one does get in such situation and can't get away like the driver in video, it is much safer to stay inside locked vehicle and wait for police.

The rich vs poor argument cannot be ruled out completely. Would the bodybuilder have behaved in the same way if it was another Audi in place of that cab?

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Originally Posted by self_driven (Post 5833850)

The rich vs poor argument cannot be ruled out completely. Would the bodybuilder have behaved in the same way if it was another Audi in place of that cab?

We don't know what we don't know. In my experience, people who have anger issues are hardly rational.

By tailing another vehicle so close, you run the risk of hitting the vehicle in front. Someone like me will brush it off and won't even get out of car (has happened to me multiple times when bikers and auto rickshaws have scratched my car), but someone on the other end of spectrum might get violent.

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Originally Posted by self_driven (Post 5833844)

To me it looks like a judgement error on the cabbie's part as there was enough time at his disposal if his intent was to "mess around".

https://x.com/ANI/status/18297246943...069069646.html

No need to go personal during a rational discussion but that aside, doesn't that swerve at 00:10 look threatening? Or am I not hardened enough to consider this acceptable road behavior? Please watch the linked footage.

The Audi guy did use excessive force no denying that and nobody is justifying that. Shouldn't we try and find out what happened before the incident in question or should we just jump on the Audi and deliver mob justice like everybody else?

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Originally Posted by hortons15 (Post 5833736)

...Until we have the full story investigated by the police or relevant authorities and we have solid evidence of what actually happened, we must try and refrain from taking sides. It's the trend for news media to point fingers because AUDI, but as a forum we must not!

Do you really think the cabbie could have assaulted first after watching him go down in this video? Let's assume what you said happened, why would the cabbie follow the Audi guy after assaulting him? Doesn't make any sense!

On the basis of this video, the Audi guy is clearly on the wrong side of the law. Self defence means you try to stop someone attacking you physically by any means. Here, the cabbie neither attacked him physically nor rammed his cab repeatedly into the Audi. It was the Audi guy who got down from his vehicle and assaulted the cabbie.

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Originally Posted by SR-71 (Post 5833394)

Per the news article in Hindustan Times, the tiff started with the Audi driver first hitting the OLA driver from behind and driving away with the OLA driver's navigation gadget. The OLA driver followed them to retrieve it and the rest is evident in the video. It's sad that Audi driver thinks it's OK for him to hit others but it not OK for others to hit him.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india...069069646.html

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According to his complaint, the trouble began when an Audi hit his car from behind near Asalpha Metro station. When Ansari got out to inspect the damage, the couple in the Audi, identified as Rishabh Chakraborty (35), who is a journalist, and his wife Antara Ghosh (27), allegedly started abusing him. Ghosh also reportedly removed the Ola cab device from Ansari's vehicle and started driving away.
Ansari followed the Audi, and his car collided with the luxury vehicle at the entrance of a building opposite a mall in Ghatkopar. At this point, in the video, Chakraborty can be seen slapping Ansari, lifting him, and slamming him to the ground, head first.

This is the story so far, as posted only yesterday. I have even pasted in the quote from the newspaper.

We have no reason to doubt it. Unless or until we do, anything else is just an exercise of the imagination.

As predicted earlier, the sections in the FIR have changed and Audi driver has not only been arrested but also remanded to a seven day police custody. He may ultimately get out of this mess, but not without significant costs and damage to his social reputation. Hope he learns that actions will have consequences.

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Originally Posted by Funny (Post 5834089)

The Audi driver seems to be an top level executive of the media firm called Moneycontrol. Has been arrested and charged with attempt to murder.

He was formerly working for them. Quoting a recent tweet from Moneycontrol official handle:

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We are shocked by the violent actions of this individual, who has been identified as a former employee of Moneycontrol.

Mr Rishabh Chakravorty resigned from Moneycontrol and has not been associated with us since June this year.

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Originally Posted by cryptarchy (Post 5833852)

Buddy, I fail to understand your point here...
One person almost killed another person for a minor scratch in this car.. and you are trying to find reasons justifying this behavior. :mad:

If anything, it seems from what I have read so far that the Audi driver hit the Ola driver beforehand and snatched away his navigation device, and that's probably the reason the Ola guy was following him.

Anyways, even if the Ola driver did rear end this car, you can't just kill a person because of that...

The Audi driver is a threat to society, and needs to be put behind bars for good.

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Originally Posted by adimicra (Post 5834147)

Buddy, I fail to understand your point here...
One person almost killed another person for a minor scratch in this car.. and you are trying to find reasons justifying this behavior. :mad:

I am repeating myself here, but what gives the impression that I am supporting anybody. Please read my posts with a neutral perspective, nowhere I have justified anybody's behaviour.

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Originally Posted by cryptarchy (Post 5834174)

I am repeating myself here, but what gives the impression that I am supporting anybody. Please read my posts with a neutral perspective, nowhere I have justified anybody's behaviour.

You know that the Pune incident is still fresh in people's mind and that's partly the reason they think that the Audi driver wouldn't have done the same with another luxury car owner. So why are you trying to defend the clearly wrong person here?
I am damn sure that idiot would have done nothing similar if the car behind him had 'Government of India or Maharashtra' written on it. These kind of people should be called out in the open and that's the only way they can keep their adrenaline to themselves.

Any random day I encounter bikers or auto drivers who nudge my car from behind infact the very first scratch on my car was gifted by an auto driver. Even then the furthest is to tell them loudly to ride their bikes over my damn head if they don't have enough space to move and that's enough for them to keep their space after that.

Are some people here thinking that its ok to lift the cab driver high up into the air and slam him to the ground causing concussion & blackout? Who knows if this injury has caused a clot in the brain? And the justification for this action being "intentional confrontation" by the cab driver causing negligible "financial damage" to the Audi driver?

Wow. Just wow!!! I have no words beyond this!!!

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Originally Posted by Chisels121 (Post 5834182)

So why are you trying to defend the clearly wrong person here?

This is the last time I am replying in this thread of discussion. Nowhere, have I defended the violence. If you think I have done that, please report me to the moderators. Please quote the relevant parts of my posts that make you think I have justified violence. I have not edited any of my posts in the discussion.

To have a mature discussion, we have to let go of the mentality of "either you are with me or against me".

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Originally Posted by Chisels121 (Post 5834182)

...You know that the Pune incident is still fresh in people's mind and that's partly the reason they think that the Audi driver wouldn't have done the same with another luxury car owner. So why are you trying to defend the clearly wrong person here?
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What the car guy did was absolutely wrong and I don't see any reason to justify his actions and should be penalized. But that said, do you think the guy would have behaved differently had he come in a Honda City or a Suzuki Baleno? Also I see posts claiming rich abuse their power, there have been so many incidents of bikers, auto drivers beating up car drivers and no one speaks about poor taking advantage of relatively wealthy person! There have been cases where rich are at mistake and in others the so called poor! Lets not generalize for everything by associating car brands to determine the cause of mistake.