ABS with EBD?

brraj · 9th July 2007, 18:06

Hi All,

In some car catalogs i have seen only ABS option present where as in some there will be ABS and EBD option.

One of the car showroom guys told that ABS will come with EBD.

is it true with all car manufacturers?

how to check if EBD is there or not?

Rajs

1100D · 9th July 2007, 21:47

EBD (Electronic Brake Force Distributor) is separate from ABS (Anti-lock Brakeing System). ABS pulsates the application of the brake force to each wheel irrespective of individual wheel loading. But EBD takes into account individual wheel loading to decide how much pressure goes to each wheel.

So in laymans terms although the ABS might be integrated/piggybacked with the EBD system, but both can exist independently without the presence of the other.

grvanand · 9th July 2007, 22:41

The Palio 1.6 GTX SP came with ABS and EBD. I dont know about the current Swift ZXi.

gopinathann · 9th July 2007, 22:59

Swift ZXI and SX4 ZXI comes with ABS & EBD. I think if ABS is installed EBD should also come, because at the back of the car only ABS is written though both are available.

manikjeet · 9th July 2007, 23:35

elentra has ebd with tsc and abs

even the fiesta has it

ebd is nothing it just control the amount of pressure on each wheel

Mugen_Power · 10th July 2007, 00:07

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Originally Posted by brraj

is it true with all car manufacturers?

how to check if EBD is there or not?

Not... Innova comes with only Abs in V model while Skoda Laura has Abs with Ebd.

Check the brouchre of the particular car..

reignofchaos · 10th July 2007, 00:09

Yup ABS automatically does not mean EBD. ABS can exist without EBD. I think even the skoda vRS has no EBD.

compenn · 10th July 2007, 04:30

Can ABS with EBD system be retrofitted on a car?

mclaren1885 · 10th July 2007, 08:45

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Originally Posted by compenn

Can ABS with EBD system be retrofitted on a car?

Not that I know of, atleast in India. I am certain 90% of the showroom guys too wouldn't know either.

BUSA · 10th July 2007, 11:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by reignofchaos

Yup ABS automatically does not mean EBD. ABS can exist without EBD. I think even the skoda vRS has no EBD.

The RS has EBD i think along with ASR, TCS and what not.

reignofchaos · 10th July 2007, 11:22

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Originally Posted by BUSA

The RS has EBD i think along with ASR, TCS and what not.

No EBD... only ABS. I asked the skoda sales chap specifically and he said it has no EBD. Even the website makes no mention of EBD. It does have traction control IIRC.

rsfeatures

BUSA · 10th July 2007, 11:44

Yup i checked the site too just to confirm, it doesnot have EBD, quite shocking to know even Swift has EBD.

brraj · 10th July 2007, 11:55

Thanks for the information guys...

I think these how showroom people cheat saying it has ABS/EBD/TCS even though it has only ABS.

By the way do you guys know how to check if EBD is installed or not?

Rajs

flipsyde · 10th July 2007, 11:59

i have read that ABS and EBD basically share about 90% of parts.....EBD is more or less left to the configuration of the ECU.

VBV · 10th July 2007, 13:35

I am told EBD reduces spin:
Electronic brakeforce distribution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wikipedia also mentions that ABS/EBD have shown little improvement in braking distance. What's the opinion here in TBHP? Does ABS/EBD reduce braking distance?

Reducing spins/skids are helpful, but more often in India, we would need a reduced braking distance.

9th July 2007, 18:06	#1
brraj BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 913 Thanked: 1,280 Times	ABS with EBD? Hi All, In some car catalogs i have seen only ABS option present where as in some there will be ABS and EBD option. One of the car showroom guys told that ABS will come with EBD. is it true with all car manufacturers? how to check if EBD is there or not? Rajs
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9th July 2007, 21:47	#2
1100D Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 4,390 Thanked: 4,079 Times View My Garage	EBD (Electronic Brake Force Distributor) is separate from ABS (Anti-lock Brakeing System). ABS pulsates the application of the brake force to each wheel irrespective of individual wheel loading. But EBD takes into account individual wheel loading to decide how much pressure goes to each wheel. So in laymans terms although the ABS might be integrated/piggybacked with the EBD system, but both can exist independently without the presence of the other.
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9th July 2007, 22:41	#3
grvanand BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 211 Thanked: 0 Times	The Palio 1.6 GTX SP came with ABS and EBD. I dont know about the current Swift ZXi.
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9th July 2007, 22:59	#4
gopinathann BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 765 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Swift ZXI and SX4 ZXI comes with ABS & EBD. I think if ABS is installed EBD should also come, because at the back of the car only ABS is written though both are available.
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9th July 2007, 23:35	#5
manikjeet Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: chandigarh Posts: 1,618 Thanked: 295 Times View My Garage	elentra has ebd with tsc and abs even the fiesta has it ebd is nothing it just control the amount of pressure on each wheel
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10th July 2007, 00:09	#7
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,542 Thanked: 2,450 Times View My Garage	Yup ABS automatically does not mean EBD. ABS can exist without EBD. I think even the skoda vRS has no EBD.
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compenn BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: delhi Posts: 125 Thanked: 4 Times	Can ABS with EBD system be retrofitted on a car?
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10th July 2007, 11:44	#12
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Yup i checked the site too just to confirm, it doesnot have EBD, quite shocking to know even Swift has EBD.
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10th July 2007, 11:55	#13
brraj BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 913 Thanked: 1,280 Times	Thanks for the information guys... I think these how showroom people cheat saying it has ABS/EBD/TCS even though it has only ABS. By the way do you guys know how to check if EBD is installed or not? Rajs
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flipsyde BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 644 Thanked: 84 Times	i have read that ABS and EBD basically share about 90% of parts.....EBD is more or less left to the configuration of the ECU.
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VBV BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 227 Thanked: 6 Times	I am told EBD reduces spin: Electronic brakeforce distribution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Wikipedia also mentions that ABS/EBD have shown little improvement in braking distance. What's the opinion here in TBHP? Does ABS/EBD reduce braking distance? Reducing spins/skids are helpful, but more often in India, we would need a reduced braking distance.
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