[msdivy]

Originally Posted by Oppanna

Casually checked the website (https://echallan.ksp.gov.in) and was shocked to see a fine of Rs 500 dating back to December 1 2024!

I received a ₹500 fine for not wearing a seatbelt, which was issued sometime in June 2024 when the cameras were newly installed.

I am certain this is a false charge, as I always wear a seatbelt while driving. There have been several similar false positives, where compliant cases were mistakenly flagged as violations.

I have submitted a complaint regarding the incorrect offense here - https://btp.karnataka.gov.in/complaint/en

The issue of false positives was reported in the newspaper - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../112656690.cms

[Rajeevraj]

Originally Posted by Oppanna

And this is the first time I am being charged fine on this highway too! I have been a regular on this route for all my drives to Mangalore and beyond which happens at least once a month.

Anyways, I paid the fine via website as I do not like to keep it pending and it haunts me. Moreover would have appreciated if there was an option to raise dispute as well which is clearly missing.

I have got a 3000 fine for speaking on the phone which I am sure I did not do at all since there is no need for me to pick up the phone and speak even if I get a call. When I tried to map to how it would have been triggered, I realised that around the time of violation I was eating a long type bun and it looks like the AI cam mistook for a phone.

Since there was no picture and no way to dispute, I paid it off.

[deehunk]

AI's are as intelligent as the person building them; to expect them to eradicate human errors is just too much to expect, at least for 50 years. This entire thread on the Mysore expressway shows that the Indian administration is unfit to construct or manage expressways. This expressway has become a money-minting system for the police; just targeting private vehicles and letting off the slow-moving vehicles that occupy the high-speed lanes is nothing but daylight robbery. I have stopped using this expressway now and am happy to drive on the Malavalli-Bannur route which is now in good condition.

[Oppanna]

Originally Posted by Rajeevraj

I realised that around the time of violation I was eating a long type bun and it looks like the AI cam mistook for a phone.

Since there was no picture and no way to dispute, I paid it off.

Crazy, could not resist.. Probably the costliest bun one can have? This AI thingy is really bad. Like mentioned in earlier posts, the entire AI Camera traps are only to make money, no ways to dispute the challan and for people like me who does not like to have something pending will pay off the fine and walk off!

At least they should have given the proof of violation for satisfaction. Anyways the AI camera's does not want to do anything for those morons who wish to drive at 50 kmpn or so on the fast lane, do not want to fine people who stick out of the sunroof and does not want to do anything for those who drive on the opposite side as well.

[tbppjpr]

Originally Posted by Rajeevraj

Since there was no picture and no way to dispute, I paid it off.

Originally Posted by Oppanna

no ways to dispute the challan and for people like me who does not like to have something pending will pay off the fine and walk off!

In-cabin dashcam can be handy but only if one maintains history of few days back.

Current crop of decent quality triple channel cameras either offer limited recording of few hours and those available with SSD output cost a bombs. Thats the reason I couldn't yet finalize any dashcam for my car. Don't want to spend on something which turns useless when I need it most.

I also fear if the seatbelts are identified or not by the so called AI cameras if the occupants are wearing black cloths.

[itwasntme]

More amateurish chaos on the BME:

Authorities have dealt a major blow to motorists evading toll fees on the Bengaluru-Mysuru Expressway by closing entry and exit points near Bidadi. This move effectively puts an end to free travel, forcing all vehicles to pass through designated toll plazas.

https://bangaloremirror.indiatimes.c.../118261633.cms

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted by itwasntme

This move effectively puts an end to free travel, forcing all vehicles to pass through designated toll plazas

Not only are the exits blocked, but entry to the service roads is also being restricted for heavy vehicles.

The entry ramp to the expressway just after the Manipal Junction in Mysuru had this board displayed prominently; two days ago:

Heavy vehicles not allowed on service road

[HTC]

For me old highway was better, scenic and wide enough to travel between mysore and bangalore in less than 3 hours with a short food break in between. Only bottleneck were the towns and cities like mandya, channapatna, maddur, ramanagara for which bypasses could have been built to avoid jams.

Now you pay 600+ rupees for a return trip. Servcie road has lots of speed breakers and not safe during nights drives, non existant at few stretches. After paying so much income tax and road tax I dont feel its fair to extract toll for what should have been a rightful facility given to people free of cost from the government.

[anandhsub]

Originally Posted by HTC

For me old highway was better, scenic and wide enough to travel between mysore and bangalore in less than 3 hours with a short food break in between. Only bottleneck were the towns and cities like mandya, channapatna, maddur, ramanagara for which bypasses could have been built to avoid jams.

Thats exactly what the new expressway is. It is just the old highway with bypasses for the towns mentioned. Not a greenfield expressway like the upcoming Bangalore-Chennai one.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by anandhsub

Thats exactly what the new expressway is. It is just the old highway with bypasses for the towns mentioned. Not a greenfield expressway like the upcoming Bangalore-Chennai one.

Its just a Tollway. A Highway with Tolls to be paid.
But Im fine with it.
As long as they consider increasing the speed limit for cars to 120kmph while strongly enforcing lane discipline just as they enforce the speed limits..

[PreludeSH]

Originally Posted by Rajeevraj

I have got a 3000 fine for speaking on the phone which I am sure I did not do at all since there is no need for me to pick up the phone and speak even if I get a call. When I tried to map to how it would have been triggered, I realised that around the time of violation I was eating a long type bun and it looks like the AI cam mistook for a phone.

Since there was no picture and no way to dispute, I paid it off.

Read today that in UK, they want to introduce AI to detect potholes. Not applicable for us since it will be difficult to train and it might not work if there are potholes with roads

They will also introduce AI to detect phone usage/not wearing seatbelts using phenomenal cameras !

On this Mysuru road, I am not sure how phenomenal cameras are. It should be easy to provide photographic evidence along with citation.

[sachinpk]

Originally Posted by PreludeSH

They will also introduce AI to detect phone usage/not wearing seatbelts using phenomenal cameras !

This was piloted in a few sections of highways in Kerala. So such cameras are available for the Indian market as well.

[nareshtrao]

Originally Posted by anandhsub

Thats exactly what the new expressway is. It is just the old highway with bypasses for the towns mentioned. Not a greenfield expressway like the upcoming Bangalore-Chennai one.

As a clarification, NHAI published a communication in 2023 stating Bangalore Mysore Highway is not an "Expressway". They further clarified that this is a "Access Controlled and Tolled Highway". They cited the standards differentiating both and clarified.

I recall reading this in multiple papers but need to find the same.

Found the link.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../102405479.cms

Mods: Can we edit the title to avoid confusion?

[binand]

Originally Posted by HTC

For me old highway was better, scenic and wide enough to travel between mysore and bangalore in less than 3 hours with a short food break in between.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose. For me without question the new one wins - instead of the 3-hour speedbreaker-riddled and traffic-tortured frustrating drive that it used to be in the past, now I exit at Mysore in a very predictable 1h 15mins. It is so short that I don't even need that food break at all. :-)

[itwasntme]

Originally Posted by binand

Different strokes for different folks I suppose. For me without question the new one wins - instead of the 3-hour speedbreaker-riddled and traffic-tortured frustrating drive that it used to be in the past, now I exit at Mysore in a very predictable 1h 15mins. It is so short that I don't even need that food break at all. :-)

Agree with you but with a caveat!

For folks travelling onwards and beyond MYS (and vice versa towards BLR and beyond) on a timebound trip, it is a huge boon and has opened up so many new destinations simply because of the 'known' time spent on the BLR-MYS leg.

However, for travellers wanting to access intermediate destinations, have a chilled and/or cultural/foodie drive without time considerations, it can be difficult. There is differing accesses to the intermediary towns plus the service roads are dicey with meandering widths, sudden speedbreakers, all kinds of local traffic barging in, no lighting etc. etc. I would say it is not worthy of being called even a highway any more. I do feel for such travellers.

Personally speaking, I bless the BME every time we can get on it and set the cruise control to 98 km/hr.