Esteem or Ikon Flair

extreme_torque · 13th March 2006, 12:17

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Originally Posted by aseem

Ikon flair does feel underpowered. I test drove flair and found it sluggish.

what car do u drive now? After driving an Ikon 1.6 or Honda City it will feel sluggish... else its fine in the city.
One of my friend has the ikon 1.3... gives him 12-13 kmpl in city and 15-16 on the highway 100+ all the time.

venkatesh_t3 · 13th March 2006, 13:56

thanks for the replies.
I saw ford fiesta and went for a test drive in it, the car seem to be very smooth but the base model on road comes upto 6.28 which is out of budget and dealers are not ready to offer any discounts too, thats why i stepped back to ikon .
i found swift very attractive but iam looking for boot space too , which is bit cramped in swift.

yet to try esteem, plans to test drive it this weekend

shuvc · 13th March 2006, 14:13

A colleague of mine has the same predicament.
Ikon Flair - he found it sluggish.
Accent - Yet to try
Fiesta 1.4 EXi - 6.35 .. out of his budget

He went to a MUL dealer. Quotes ...
Esteem VXi - 5.06 OTR
Baleno LXi - 5.70 OTR (plus free audio system)

They are trying to sell him the Baleno .. looks like he might take the bait !

venkatesh_t3 · 13th March 2006, 14:17

baleno lxi they offered me 5.82 , they where not ready to reduce on it.

but yet to test drive baleno, if i could get a good deal i think i can go for baleno

jkdas · 13th March 2006, 15:22

what about the Petra?

nitrous · 13th March 2006, 16:11

Ikon: Super handling,decent ride,more strongly built,decent quality interiors,ok engine and FE(10kpl with AC)Bottomline:Excellent driver's car,but just 70bhp underhood.

Esteem: sober handling with body-roll,weaker body-shell,ancient interiors, EXCELLENT 85 bhp engine and FE(13kpl with AC).Bottomline:Ageing car except for its engine.

I'd strongly suggest a Baleno to U. Chennai still hasn't met the Baleno Bug.
So, haggle strongly and u might get it for 5.6 to 5.7 lakhs.Confirm the order.

Neo. · 13th March 2006, 19:05

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Originally Posted by nitrous

Ikon: Super handling,decent ride,more strongly built,decent quality interiors,ok engine and FE(10kpl with AC)Bottomline:Excellent driver's car,but just 70bhp underhood.

Esteem: sober handling with body-roll,weaker body-shell,ancient interiors, EXCELLENT 85 bhp engine and FE(13kpl with AC).Bottomline:Ageing car except for its engine.

I'd strongly suggest a Baleno to U. Chennai still hasn't met the Baleno Bug.
So, haggle strongly and u might get it for 5.6 to 5.7 lakhs.Confirm the order.

Couldn't have put it better.

But if the Baleno is out of your reach then i guess the ikon wins over the esteem in all parameters, and the new flair with the Ikon 1.6 bumpers look way better than the age old esteem. The only region where the esteem scores over the flair is in the FE.

Zappo · 13th March 2006, 19:23

You know what? The poor guy has his heart set on a booted car. He already has a hatch and now wants to stretch a bit and buy a "bigger" car. Why are you people suggesting him hatch options?

I feel venkatesh that if you can stretch a bit more see if you can go for the Baleno. With some negotiation the LXi now comes for around 5.8L otr. Thats not a very big hike from your 5.5 budget. And yet the car is a hoot to drive. Yes, just like the Esteem and Ikon this one is also dated. However where it actually makes up is in the fact that it is indeed a bigger car and has a performance and FE that will make you smile.

However, yes, if that "bigger, booted" car is not necessarily what you are looking for then do give the Swift a very very hard look. It is a stupendous performer in its category.

venkatesh_t3 · 13th March 2006, 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by revharder

hello,
if you can wait for sometime, Chevy's cars are also expected very soon.

Any idea about the price range of the new Chevy's car

if its really a worth waiting i dont mind waiting for it

jango · 13th March 2006, 20:23

F : Fix
O : Or
R : Repair
D : Daily

So try Swift

aseem · 13th March 2006, 22:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by venkatesh_t3

baleno lxi they offered me 5.82 , they where not ready to reduce on it.

but yet to test drive baleno, if i could get a good deal i think i can go for baleno

If you are willing to shell 5.82 for Baleno, than stretch a bit further and buy the Ford Fiesta for 6.28. Th 46k stretch is worth it in my opinion. If you are on a loan, it will just amount to 800 Rs per month or so. If you wait for a few months, you might get insurance free with Fiesta.
Baleno and Fiesta has been heavily debated in other threads, although Baleno stands out in performance, FE, and cost of ownership, but its really dated.
With Fiesta you can enjoy owning a new car, people watching your car, better interiors etc.
Although criterias differ for different people, but I would choose Fiesta over Baleno, as Baleno is getting dated, and might be discontinued in the near future.

sivadas · 13th March 2006, 23:19

"My daddy's big car" is not at all big inside. Back seats are extemely uncomfortable. It appears too fagile and skinny.

sivadas · 13th March 2006, 23:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by jango

F : Fix
O : Or
R : Repair
D : Daily

So try Swift

Come on Jango, that is for kids. Any body interested in expanding S W I F T or may be J A N G O

Mpower · 14th March 2006, 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by aseem

If you are willing to shell 5.82 for Baleno, than stretch a bit further and buy the Ford Fiesta for 6.28. Th 46k stretch is worth it in my opinion. If you are on a loan, it will just amount to 800 Rs per month or so. If you wait for a few months, you might get insu.

Are you refering to the 1.6. I though Fiesta 1.4 is only 5.85.

venkatesh_t3 · 14th March 2006, 16:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpower

Are you refering to the 1.6. I though Fiesta 1.4 is only 5.85.

On road fiesta 1.4 comes to 6.28 in chennai

13th March 2006, 13:56	#17
venkatesh_t3 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: chennai Posts: 50 Thanked: 0 Times	thanks for the replies. I saw ford fiesta and went for a test drive in it, the car seem to be very smooth but the base model on road comes upto 6.28 which is out of budget and dealers are not ready to offer any discounts too, thats why i stepped back to ikon . i found swift very attractive but iam looking for boot space too , which is bit cramped in swift. yet to try esteem, plans to test drive it this weekend
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13th March 2006, 14:13	#18
shuvc Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 2,913 Thanked: 352 Times View My Garage	A colleague of mine has the same predicament. Ikon Flair - he found it sluggish. Accent - Yet to try Fiesta 1.4 EXi - 6.35 .. out of his budget He went to a MUL dealer. Quotes ... Esteem VXi - 5.06 OTR Baleno LXi - 5.70 OTR (plus free audio system) They are trying to sell him the Baleno .. looks like he might take the bait !
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13th March 2006, 14:17	#19
venkatesh_t3 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: chennai Posts: 50 Thanked: 0 Times	baleno lxi they offered me 5.82 , they where not ready to reduce on it. but yet to test drive baleno, if i could get a good deal i think i can go for baleno
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13th March 2006, 15:22	#20
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	what about the Petra?
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13th March 2006, 16:11	#21
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Ikon: Super handling,decent ride,more strongly built,decent quality interiors,ok engine and FE(10kpl with AC)Bottomline:Excellent driver's car,but just 70bhp underhood. Esteem: sober handling with body-roll,weaker body-shell,ancient interiors, EXCELLENT 85 bhp engine and FE(13kpl with AC).Bottomline:Ageing car except for its engine. I'd strongly suggest a Baleno to U. Chennai still hasn't met the Baleno Bug. So, haggle strongly and u might get it for 5.6 to 5.7 lakhs.Confirm the order.
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13th March 2006, 19:23	#23
Zappo Team-BHP Support Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 5,922 Thanked: 2,699 Times	You know what? The poor guy has his heart set on a booted car. He already has a hatch and now wants to stretch a bit and buy a "bigger" car. Why are you people suggesting him hatch options? I feel venkatesh that if you can stretch a bit more see if you can go for the Baleno. With some negotiation the LXi now comes for around 5.8L otr. Thats not a very big hike from your 5.5 budget. And yet the car is a hoot to drive. Yes, just like the Esteem and Ikon this one is also dated. However where it actually makes up is in the fact that it is indeed a bigger car and has a performance and FE that will make you smile. However, yes, if that "bigger, booted" car is not necessarily what you are looking for then do give the Swift a very very hard look. It is a stupendous performer in its category.
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13th March 2006, 20:23	#25
jango BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York & kotayam Posts: 800 Thanked: 23 Times View My Garage	F : Fix O : Or R : Repair D : Daily So try Swift
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13th March 2006, 23:19	#27
sivadas BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 506 Thanked: 208 Times View My Garage	"My daddy's big car" is not at all big inside. Back seats are extemely uncomfortable. It appears too fagile and skinny.
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