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Two attempts were made to oust me on stupid technicalities - one at 50 and a successful one at 55. The second time, it was take a humiliating position or a package! I, stupidly tried looking for a position but its fairy gold even though I have a lot to offer. Am now planning to look at consulting Quote:
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And once you're at that age you become very vulnerable given your commitments & responsibilities to the family AND low chances of getting a new job given it is an Industry trend. So, the only option is to work on a Plan B and if that doesn't work, a Plan C. In short, just build a lifeboat (and a dinghy) before the Capt. chucks you overboard into the ocean. The person won several awards and recognition from the Management but you know how it is. Capabilities, personalities, skills, talents, long service and all the positives don't really matter once they decide your time is up. "Nothing personal" as they say although that fools no one. It is how you are edged out that matters..some folks are just called by HR and shown the door. Some are given a long glide path; for e.g. moved to the 'parking lot' to become a 'grazer' and reminded subtly to take a hint. Some are given i.e. 3-6 months notice & tagged as VRS with a golden handshake. It's only someone with a very thick skin who can put up with all this but the end is the same..unpleasant and humiliating to the employee and the family when they are at their most vulnerable. All I'd advise anybody over 40 in IT or tech - be prepared to change, re-skill and watch your back. This the new normal. Quote:
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| ![]() IT crowd is an elaborate conduit setup to transfer forex into the pockets of builders, car dealers and school management. Arguably the brightest minds of our country's workforce, they are totally incapable of thinking beyond their next appraisal. If you are an individual contributor (programmer, chef, etc.) who can't BS then you better be an entrepreneur as well. It's the ultimate kick in life, to use your skills to build your own business. Having such an outlook from early on will surely help you to deal with job insecurities because you are not working to please your boss or keep your head out of EMI waters but have much bigger fish to fry. |
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Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: DL9C
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| ![]() How's the trend elsewhere? Is this something limited to our shores or is it the same case everywhere else too? |
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The Indian IT industry has been heavily influenced by some parts of the culture and practices of US businesses sprinkled with a desi touch. They are equal opportunity employers on paper but these get discarded per the needs of the day. Continental EU countries are by and large Socialistic when it comes to jobs. It's not easy to lay off people there or discriminate on age and other factors. | |
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Many IT professionals who were junior to mid level employees in what I call the "Golden Days of IT" bulldozed, threatened, jumped ship galore to increase their salaries by 3-5x in a matter of years. And then it came crashing down and these guys, spoilt by multiple job offers, became vulnerable and some even fell ill given they had taken HUGE loans (with EMIs of 70K and over per month for 15-20 years ![]() Post 2008 many were up crap creek without a paddle. ![]() | |
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Senior - BHPian | ![]() Age discrimination or learning new technologies? With IT, the technology changes are far more rapidly happening than in any other business. The technology I worked on six years ago has become obsolete four years back. Ironically I am working on a 20 year old technology in my current job and am a bit happy to be out of the rat race for learning new technologies every six months. Both my team mates are 40 or above and I see the resistance to change in them. People at this age just aren't as dynamic as they were ten years younger. As with any other company, there's a pyramid, and the largest pool of jobs is near the bottom. The higher jobs usually go to seasoned hands who are well versed with the company culture and retain sufficient knowledge to matter to the company. |
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BHPian Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Bangalore
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| ![]() I am not from the IT sector, but i was wondering aloud - pls. ignore if it sounds too theoretical - given the nature of many BHPians and their commitment to excellence combined with unbiased professionalism with the added benefit of a great platform to get together; Can many of the IT folks here not come together and start something of value? Sure, it might not give a 50L PA, but still there would be something...no? |
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BANNED Join Date: May 2011 Location: PUNE
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Infractions: 0/1 (4) | ![]() In the organisation that I currently work in, everyone except the vertical head and her PS are billable. Also I am seeing a strong push to make even managers work on their own projects will doing line management, with 70 % of the time spent on Capex (projects). Does still mean age will be a factor ? |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Anyone here affected by the H1b visa extension rejection yet? Am on that boat currently and the free for all H1b era is coming to a close(atleast in my case). What i learnt is clients are negotiating harder and sow's are being signed for shorter timespan(sometimes months). Developer roles have a greater chance of survival in the industry than a BA or manager in the org. The older saying of get your i140 you will get your extension doesnt work anymore. Other neighboring countries will see a increase in work visa applications. Many of the Clients have been going through rounds and rounds of Reorg which ends up with the relationship between a contractor and an employee being a suspicious one more than a trustworthy relationship. I totally agree with the point of IT boom was a roundabout scheme to benefit realtors as everyone is getting a 15-30 year loan while your job may not last that long. Am currently figuring out my options while i try to pack up a decade of living in the states in two weeks time with a lot of regrets. Maddy |
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Lots of openings by the clients but very few resources to fulfil the need; it's a quite a mess these days. Quote:
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