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Old 13th March 2023, 13:17   #106
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PS : In the above mentioned text, I have used ChatGpt for correcting grammatical mistakes and rephrase the review, I think it came out great.
Slightly offtopic though. ChatGPT requires mobile phone to sign-up right? Is there an option to use the services without provide phone number?
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Old 14th March 2023, 00:08   #107
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Slightly offtopic though. ChatGPT requires mobile phone to sign-up right? Is there an option to use the services without provide phone number?
I think it only asks for Email ID verification. I tried signing up with random mail, all it asked was email to be verified.

ChatGPT is a boon to me though, I have been using it extensively to draft mails and simple reminder or follow up letters. The jiffiness is just superbly amazing.
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Yesterday was the first day in a long long time that I tried doing all my searches on Bing / Bing Chat instead of Google.

With general text questions and research, Bing Chat (powered by ChatGPT) is head and shoulders better than anything Google Search can manage.

Bing voice recognition is also extremely accurate (uses OpenAI whisper API) and coupled with Bing Chat, it is extremely pleasant to have a conversation with. It won't be long before Bing can transcribe full YouTube Videos using Whisper and give us a fully searchable YouTube.

As a side benefit, the fact that Microsoft has linked my personal and work accounts means I can search my work account documents from directly inside Bing search.

I have been using Edge browser instead of Chrome for a few years now (due to its ~30% better energy efficiency) and started using Microsoft Edge Developer edition since last week and that makes Bing Chat even easier to use since it shows up as a sidebar right on the screen when browsing. That sidebar gives it context awareness and it just knows what you are looking at without you having to give it any context. Most of us use a second screen to Google stuff about what we are doing all the time. The Bing Chat sidebar makes doing that much easier without the need for a second screen and without having to switch tabs.

Sometimes it does get stuff wrong. I asked it who was the Man of the match for yesterday's test match about 15 minutes after it was announced and it got confused and told me it was Rohit Sharma for his double century in the first innings. But when I told her that Rohit scored only 34 and that she got that wrong, it did tell me the correct answer (Kohli) immediately.

Google still has an edge when it comes to image search/recognition. Also, haven't tried out how well Bing Maps works since there is a lot of info Google Maps offers that Bing doesn't.

But ChatGPT powered Bing Chat has closed the search gap and created another one that Google will have to work hard to close. It's voice recognition is almost amazing whether I am talking in English or Hindi and that helps it become the best virtual voice assistant we have had till date.
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Old 14th March 2023, 11:13   #109
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I started running into more and more issues with Bing Chat today after my post. Turns out, if you want a well researched topic that may require more than just a couple of searches, ChatGPT is doing it better.

I asked the following to Bing Chat:

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Give me a list of left handed Indian batsmen who have scored the most runs in first class cricket in the past 2 years
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The response is from the web search results. Here is a list of left-handed Indian batsmen who have scored the most runs in first-class cricket in the past two years:

Shikhar Dhawan scored 1369 runs at an average of 57.04 with four centuries and six fifties1.
Suresh Raina scored 1121 runs at an average of 56.05 with three centuries and six fifties2.
Gautam Gambhir scored 1047 runs at an average of 49.85 with three centuries and five fifties2.
1: Where does Shikhar Dhawan rank in the list of left handed batting greats for India in ODI cricket? - CricTracker : Suresh Raina: The man who made India’s middle-order his own - ESPNcricinfo : Gautam Gambhir retires: ‘A fighter to the core’ - ESPNcricinfo
This answer is truly absolutely wrong since all 3 of them last played First class cricket back in 2018/2019. When I told this to Bing, it ended the conversation with this:

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I’m sorry but I prefer not to continue this conversation. I’m still learning so I appreciate your understanding and patience.��
By contrast, this is what ChatGPT gave me

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I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, my knowledge cutoff is September 2021, and I do not have access to live or up-to-date sports statistics. However, I can provide you with a list of left-handed Indian batsmen who have scored the most runs in first-class cricket in the 2019-2020 and 2020-2021 seasons:

Priyank Panchal - 1869 runs in 21 innings at an average of 93.45
Saurabh Tiwary - 1369 runs in 20 innings at an average of 68.45
Siddhesh Lad - 1355 runs in 22 innings at an average of 62.04
Nitish Rana - 1315 runs in 24 innings at an average of 62.61
Ankit Bawne - 1299 runs in 22 innings at an average of 59.04
Please note that these statistics are accurate as of September 2021 and are subject to change with new data.
This is exactly what I was looking for but since this is outdated information, it is not of much use.

I also asked Bing the most confusing question of them all. The list of all GST slabs for cars sold in India . And at no time did it get the answer right even after repeated prompting and kept confusing EVs with ICEs and engine capacity with battery capacity. The answer was totally and utterly wrong. The same question posed to ChatGPT was better answered, even though still wrong, was much less confused.
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So I got confused regarding GDI engines and as a Diesel engine user, I though why would a GDI engine need spark plugs when the highly compressed air could ignite the fuel-air mixture.

With the above thought, I searched the internet and saw many videos on youtube; all of which did talk about the fuel ignition in GDI engine via a Spark Plug. This made no sense to me and still does not. Petrol ignites far easier than Diesel, still somehow the heated compressed air can ignite with pressurized diesel but not with Petrol. Still does not make sense.

I did a chat with chatGPT on this and the result is very interesting:
  • Hi ChatGPT
  • Hello! How can I assist you today?
  • I am doing some research on Petrol vs Diesel engines
  • Great! I'd be happy to help you with your research. What specific questions or areas do you need help with?
  • Is there any form of petrol engine, where the spark plugs are eliminated and direct petrol is injected into the cylinder via high pressure like its done in diesel engines?
  • Yes, there is a type of petrol engine called the gasoline direct injection (GDI) engine that injects fuel directly into the combustion chamber at high pressure, just like in a diesel engine.
    In a typical petrol engine, the fuel and air are mixed before being drawn into the cylinder, and then ignited by a spark plug. However, in a GDI engine, the fuel is injected directly into the combustion chamber under high pressure, where it mixes with the air and is ignited by the heat of the compressed air without the need for a spark plug.
    GDI engines offer several advantages over traditional petrol engines, including better fuel efficiency, more power, and lower emissions. However, they can also be more complex and expensive to manufacture and maintain than traditional petrol engines, and they can be more prone to carbon buildup on the intake valves.
  • Can you give me an example of such an engine?
  • Sure! Many car manufacturers offer gasoline direct injection engines in their vehicles. Here are some examples of car models that are equipped with GDI engines:
    • Ford F-150: This pickup truck is available with a 2.7-liter and 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 GDI engines, which offer high levels of power and torque while also being fuel-efficient.
    • Audi A4: The Audi A4 sedan comes with a 2.0-liter TFSI GDI engine that delivers both power and efficiency.
    • Honda Civic Type R: This high-performance compact car features a 2.0-liter VTEC Turbo GDI engine that delivers 306 horsepower and 295 lb-ft of torque.
    • Mazda CX-5: The Mazda CX-5 compact SUV is available with a 2.5-liter Skyactiv-G GDI engine that delivers a balance of power and efficiency.
    These are just a few examples of the many car models that feature gasoline direct injection engines.
  • I have failed to see a citation on internet which talks about elimination of the spark plugs in GDI engine. Could you please provide a link to an article which mentions this?
  • I apologize for the confusion. While it is true that GDI engines do not rely on spark plugs for ignition, they still require a spark plug for cold starting, and some GDI engines may use a combination of direct injection and traditional port injection to optimize fuel delivery and combustion.
    Here is a source from the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) that explains the role of spark plugs in GDI engines:I hope this clears up any confusion. Let me know if you have any other questions!
  • So there is no GDI engine with complete elimination of spark plugs. Right?
  • That is correct. To the best of my knowledge, there is no GDI engine that completely eliminates the need for spark plugs. While GDI engines do not rely on spark plugs for ignition during normal operating conditions, they still require spark plugs for cold starts, as well as for engine management and control purposes. Additionally, some GDI engines may use a combination of direct injection and traditional port injection to optimize fuel delivery and combustion, and those engines would still require spark plugs for ignition.
As you can see, it also did state the same initially that GDI dont need spark plugs and then when I asked for citation, it quickly turned back

Anyway, can someone please clear my doubt?
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Old 17th March 2023, 12:05   #111
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I think it only asks for Email ID verification. I tried signing up with random mail, all it asked was email to be verified.
When I sign up using Google, it is asking a phone number to verify further. It does mention that phone verification is required for signup.
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When I sign up using Google, it is asking a phone number to verify further. It does mention that phone verification is required for signup.
Create your account
Please note that phone verification is required for signup. Your number will only be used to verify your identity for security purposes.
I generally don't prefer to link my google accounts to other places directly, try signing up through email, that'll help you without going through mobile verification.
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I generally don't prefer to link my google accounts to other places directly, try signing up through email, that'll help you without going through mobile verification.
I think signups are closed. And also I do see phone number a mandatory requirement. So I will stay away from this for now.

Having said that I did come across https://chat-gpt.org/ which is allowing the chat without registration. Looks like someone has created a website for those who want to try without registration
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Not sure if this is satire. How an AI anticipates and counters a Kill Switch is brilliantly portrayed in the Sci-Fi series "Person of Interest" ; I had written about it earlier (The TV / Streaming shows thread (no spoilers please)).


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I liked the way they didn't anthropomorphize the AI system; there are no humanoids or robots running wild. The AI-gone-rogue tries to achieve its objectives via human agents. In a particularly interesting sequence in season 5, the AI gets the blissfully ignorant humans to relocate itself to multiple locations so the AI can't be physically shutdown. I would imagine that if (when??) AI goes rogue, that's how humans would be enslaved without us even realizing it, and not by Westworld (another superb Jonathan Nolan creation) type conscious hosts.
In the series, the AI system generates fake official emails, asking the employees to decentralise its code & data so that it never can be killed.
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I have replaced search with chatGPT. For a lot of technical queries in the linux OS and related things, I rely on this now. It does give vague answers few times but similar to search it all depends on how you ask the question.
I dont have to go through multiple pages of search results now and can pretty much narrow down what I want through few follow up queries.
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It seems google has its answer to ChatGPT. Please watch the video google released, the first feeling I got after seeing this video was that a lot of people are going to lose their jobs soon.
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Anyway, can someone please clear my doubt?
GDI engines need spark plugs at all times. There is no ignition without them, as the mixture does not auto-ignite.
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GDI engines need spark plugs at all times. There is no ignition without them, as the mixture does not auto-ignite.
Thanks. My question still remain open as in why doesn’t the petrol ( which is far easier than Diesel to ignite ) auto-ignite?
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I have replaced search with chatGPT. For a lot of technical queries in the linux OS and related things, I rely on this now. It does give vague answers few times but similar to search it all depends on how you ask the question. I dont have to go through multiple pages of search results now and can pretty much narrow down what I want through few follow up queries.
In the past 3 months, I think my Google usage has gone down by 80%. For everything else, I use ChatGPT.

Google is now needed only to search through specific content on a website like Wikipedia or Team-BHP.
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