There are a lot of people Reading TBHP and Xbhp regarding stage 1 upgrades .
I have been recieveing Emails and even phone texts for Remap VS others!
So here are the Options and Fineprints of all the different approach one can adopt for upgrades!
Q: What is Stage 1?
Stage one Involves letting the Engine Breathe a little better , Generally Involves Larger surface Air cleaners and Less restrictive Exhaust.
Changing any one of them will Improve Air flow but will not Improve it enough to throw the ECU into Open loop!
Q: *** is Open loop?
This Evolution Motor although seems straight out of WW2 but is actually quite tech savvy. The Closed loop system is where the feed back is taken from exhaust gasses to verify if the Fuel calculations done by ECU were correct or they need some Improvement!
Evolution like many other Mordern engines uses Standard Narrow band O2 sniffer sensors in Exhaust pipes and lets the ECU know what exactly is going on!
Q: If sensors are already providing Feedback and adjusting Fuel delievery , then why a remap is needed?
Narrow band sensors are called Narrow band because they can only provide feed back while the AFR is between 1:14.3 - 1: 14.9.
They actually are only a Switch which provides on or off condition only on 14.6 exact , beyond which either way they can only read Lean or Rich but cant read How lean and how rich! that too only in range of 14.3 - 14.9 .
Harley ECU is set for AFR of 14.64 for most of its Operational range ( Light load or Low rpm)
Changing Both free flow air cleaner and Free flow exhaust , flows lot more air through Motor and leans the mixture beyong what can be sniffed by standard O2 sensors. and then the ECU starts ignoring o2 sensors output.
Q:Is this condition Critical?
Yes! in long term and Indian Traffic jams , Yes absolutely!
Q: What about the bikes I have seen doing these upgrades and going on without a Problem?
Lean only causes Over temperature and loss of Power .
Harley ECM has something Builtin called EITMS and temp based Timing Correction.
when the Bike goes over a set temperature for engine Core ( 230*c for Sportster) , ECU pulls out timing to prevent Detonation and engine meltdown! But reduced advance also reduces a lot of power . Then what is the point of Stage 1 upgrade if Power is not prime , Just go for Muffler upgrade to enjoy that Harley sound!
Rear Cylinder Does not recieve as much cooling as the front and repeated Over heating causes Cylinder warpage in long term. Leading to Head gasket leaks / Sepage! or the Push rod cover leak. The Famous Harley Oil leak problem.
If you want to keep it for an year or so and sell the Bike , or you are not going to stuck in traffic often, No problem ! Go ahead!
Q:No I love my Bike and I am not selling it Unless my Wife knocks the Court room! What are my Options Then?
Options:
1. Just Upgrade Muffler , and use it with Baffle .
2. Xides: seems Bang for Buck but does not actually address The problem. Cools engine at the cost of Fuel and Engine cooling @ 80bucks/ltr isnt very wise. It will cost you same as other more expensive options in year or two!
Also it provides over rich conditions where the Stock map is already Rich which messes with engine oil film on Cylinder walls. Either drop the Oil replacement Interval or risk chances of Oil pump Failure due to soot in Oil! , lot of Clatter etc.
All in all , You get what you paid for.
3. Standard HD remap VIA SEPRT:
This is One of the Best options if you only want longer engine life along with Fuel economy + warranty
Here The Harley authorised workshop Downloads a HD built Remap into your ECU , taking care of extra AIr flow at specific RPM and Throttle Openings / Load etc. This Tune has been Company tested , so the warranty is intact aswell.
At almost 35k is it Bang for Buck?
NO! Nothing is, in Harley world. Ditch that word , you are now in engine Upgrade terrotory ! That shit will buy you almost additional 10-12 bhp even in 883 trim and will raise the RPM limit to 7k!
Some people will pay that amount to hear what a Harley V-Twin sounds like on 7k with cannon shots!
And more over You got it wrong! its not 33k or 35k or whatever , Its actually 43k for the package you Just paid for!
In 33k you just get a New Tune downloaded to your ECU and you get to go home with a Gold Biscuit sized electronic device called the SEPRT ( Screaming Eagle Pro Race Tuner) packed neatly in a white cardboard box.
It is a very capable device and tune almost every thing in an engine you can think of! plus It also has Built in AUTO-TUNE Capability .
But It aint Tuning crap without pair of Cables.
One to connect it to ECU and Other to connect it to Lappy.
Plus You will need to Purchase Tuning software aswell. Yes - even if you want use Built in Auto Tune.
That is what the dealership does not tell you while selling you that fancy gadget!
So most people Just get that Initial map downloaded using Dealership cables and software , and never get to use that Autotune Function because they saved money on cables.
4. Dynojet Power Vision.
Same capabilities as SEPRT Including Auto-Tune function as far as tuning is concerned , comes with Built In 4" LCD screen and does not need to be connected to Laptop for Tuning like a SEPRT.
At almost 44-46k Its pretty expensive , But its a complete package with software + cables + Aftermarket Tunes + Tech support Unlike SEPRT.
Q: Okie , Now I see Even the SERT will cost around 43-45k , with Power Vision being around that same mark , which one Should I go For?
They both have Same , Exactly same Tuning features. Both of them lock to ECM on the First use so that you cant resell them . I cant think of anything that would make SEPRT better than a Power vision , however Warranty might be with SEPRT.
But be cautioned Warranty is only with Seprt if you have not tinkered with downloaded tune or have not run any Tuning sessions of your own. If you have not Bought Cable and software then you have paid 33 k for Just one Tune and No autotune + data collection or data monitoring.
I will compare feature by feature Between SEPRT and Power vision , then Its your call:
1. Tuning parameters
SEPRT: Same as PV
PV : same as SEPRT
2. Data Logging
SEPRT : 20min worth of running time (64mb built in memory) + Needs connection to lap top to start logging and download logged data
PV : 40hrs worth of running time ( 2gb Inbuilt memory) + Laptop not required
3. Tuning on the Go!
SEPRT: can hold only 1 tune at a time , can only be flashed when connected with laptop + software
PV : Built in LCD screen , Does not need Laptop for any thing , can even review Logged data onboard + contains slot for 6 custom Tunes+ 1 stock tune at special slot , can flash on the GO!
4. Autotune
SEPRT:
Passive Auto tuning @14.6afr , cannot load Auto tuning results without PC connection.
Auto tune is Not as AUTO as it sounds- VOlumetric efficency table is corrected in AUto tune , however that table is laid out between RPM V/S Manifold Absolute pressure.
Although Auto tune will correct the cells on its own , but bike needs to be Going through all possible combinations of Throttle VS rpm which isnt perticularly easy thing to do.
What all areas did you actually go through in that RPM V/S MAP is only known when data is reviewed in laptop.
PV : Passive Auto tuning @14.6afr. Can apply corrections without laptop.
What all areas / cell did you hit and what all still need to be hit can be Monitored on the Go on LCD. for EX you will know if auto tune has made recording for 4000rpm at 50kpa(10% throttle) and it has not made any recording for 4000rpm at 80% throttle , so you still need to take your bike to 4000rpm while holding throttle at 80%( It actually is MAP , I am using Throttle % for understanding)
5. Engine Monitor:
SEPRT : You need to record data such as Engine Temp, AFR, Timing , MAP, Oil pressure etc , download into PC and review In software.
PV : Can be monitored On the Go in form of Gauge display of your choice on LCD ( 48 gauges available in selection menu), Can also record and review on the GO!
6: Stock tune Reflashing:
Seprt: You can reflash but you are not allowed that without taking it to dealership
PV: Reflash stock tune before going in for Service ( 30sec Job) , Remove Power vision cable from ECU connector ( 1min job) and your warranty is Intact as dealership cant tell you have been running custom or after market tune.
7: Tune quality
SEPRT: HD only supplies Tunes that are conservative and maintain close loop ( AFR is still maintained as stock 14.64 for all of the RPM range), they Just raise The RPM limit to 7k and correct VE .
PV: Power Vision / Dynojet supply 100s standard tunes for combination of Mufflers & AC , plus you can flash tunes borrowed over from reputed tuners abroad etc
8: Engine Size Upgrade
SEPRT: Supports Engine size upgrade to 1200cc
PV : Supports Engine upgrade not limited by size , 1200cc/ 1250cc/ custom size can be supported
One one the Most used Feature Of PV is Its Custom gauges:
each and every gauge such as Oil temp / RPM / Gear position etc will cost 8-15k each from harley. In PV you get all these gauges on your LCD screen and get to play with backlite colour, digital or analog display , warning lights / shift point lights and all that Race stuff shown on TV
I think thats enough to make a decision!
Cheers