[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by mako17

Highly unlikely. Kawasaki owners are currently living a nightmare of a customer service, and sales have been hovering at a low.
In fact, the city I'm currently in doesn't even have Kawasaki's network.

Is this a recent feedback?

Believe there are showrooms in Mumbai, Thane, Navi Mumbai and Pune. And Anzen Mumbai doesn't have 'nightmarish' feedback from owners AFAIK.

[srini1785]

To go

I had asked the same question in another thread ( don't remember the topic), but just for my information, how is a 4 cylinder 250cc bike superior from a single cylinder of same capacity without any additional paraphernalia?.

We are talking 4 x 62.5cc inline four.

I don't know if this is a parallel /180/90 deg config.

[theredliner]

Seems to have a 17/18K RPM redline:



I'm guessing it'd make at least 55 BHP of peak power around 16000 RPM.

Tyres are 110/70R17 and 150/60 R17 Dunlop GPR-300s.

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Originally Posted by srini1785

how is a 4 cylinder 250cc bike superior from a single cylinder of same capacity without any additional paraphernalia?.

We are talking 4 x 62.5cc inline four.

I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but the smaller cylinders on the I-4 would let the engine rev much higher as the mean piston speed would be much lower than an average single cylinder engine of the same displacement (as the stroke would be longer), which (the higher revving capability) in turn would enable it to be tuned to make much higher peak power. The downside of such a tune generally is poor low end response.

[Xaos636]

Originally Posted by theredliner

Seems to have a 17/18K RPM redline:

Yes, its has a 17k RPM redline. Todays launches, namely the W800 and Z H2 bookings have started in European countries, but the ZX-25R bookings have not. This suggests that they will keep the ZX-25R limited to Indonesian markets due to their tax advantage and might go with the same step as Ninja 250/400 for rest of the world, and EICMA looks to be the perfect ground for such an unveil. Basically Europe and India(hopefully) will get a ZX-3R or a ZX-4R with the same looks and tech but with more power benefiting from the extra cc and it does make sense to me. Waiting to see what Honda and Yamaha will do now. An inline 4 R3 and CBR250RR? Or perhaps they will wait and watch how things go with the ZX-25R.

[Sutripta]

By all accounts the 250RR was not really a pleasure to ride anywhere other than a track. Cautionary tale?

Regards
Sutripta

[IshaanIan]

Originally Posted by Nithesh_M

Even if launched it will meet the fate of N400. And looking at the specs it will easily be asking upwards of 7-8 lakhs OTR which will then make people think of other bikes as VFM.

You cannot possibly compare this to the N400. The N400 is a characterless parallel twin sportbike that has been diluted to the point that it is more like a top quality commuter bike. The N400 is simply a larger more powerful bike with a fairing made for beginners to feel happy about owning a stylish and fast motorbike. This is why Kawi dropped the "R" moniker from the baby ninja sportbike line-up long back; they just weren't sporty.

This 250R is a far more focused machine and ought to cater to an audience who just knows exactly what he or she wants. Someone like me for example; my first bike was an RC390 and having ridden it for nearly 4 years now, I feel like it is at a sweet spot for outright aggressive sport-bike riding in Indian cities. I wouldn't mind 10 more horses and maybe even 5-10 more nm of torque but I am happy with the weight staying low. As of now, if I want an upgrade, I will have to look at the 600-800cc middleweight sportbike class and I'm not sure I can enjoy daily riding a middleweight sportbike through congested streets and traffic in India. That would mean that I spend a lot of time trying to justify an upgrade to the middleweight sportbike class, while still having to retain my RC390 for the simple fact that it is just about as nimble and powerful as a bike can be for the city. IF something like the Kawasaki Ninja 250R or the rumored KTM RC490 makes it to market, it would be a no brainer for me; a bit more power and speed but the same enjoyable small package that can be chucked about through our cities. When it is easy to justify the product itself, it becomes far easier to justify the price And I'm sure I am not the only sensible sportbike enthusiast in India who aches for a better bike in this class. Not a different bike, but a better one (more power and better suspension in the same track focused package).

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

No one buys the N400 anyways. They can as well bring the ZX25R and see if anyone takes the plunge.

[Nithesh_M]

Originally Posted by IshaanIan

You cannot possibly compare this to the N400. The N400 is a characterless parallel twin sportbike that has been diluted to the point that it is more like a top quality commuter bike. The N400 is simply a larger more powerful bike with a fairing made for beginners to feel happy about owning a stylish and fast motorbike. This is why Kawi dropped the "R" moniker from the baby ninja sportbike line-up long back; they just weren't sporty.

You totally missed the point regarding my N400 reference. Its not performance I was comparing it was pricing. If people think twice on spending 5+ lakhs OTR for a N400, there isn't a big enough "enthusiast" crowd for Kawi to drop the zx25r in the 7-8 lakh otr segment(way optimistic here).

The 250RR, Zx25r of the 90s couldn't sustain their asking price which was 80% of the 600 Supersports at the time. Most bikes unsold in Japan thus ended up being grey market imports to Australia and NZ and some European nations which is where you'll mostly find the 90s i4 250s today.


As it stands this zx25r is mainly targeted at the Indonesian market and there too the pricing is expected to be around 6-7 lakh INR before taxes.

[payeng]

Get the ZX-"4R" to India to replace the Ninja 400... even at 6 Lakhs it would make sense... after all that's around how much the Harley Davidson Street Series sells for India.

[Red Liner]

Engine sound.

https://youtu.be/QLI8bfDOoVs

I like.

[BowMan]

So friends bumping up this thread to find out if anyone knows a likely India release now that Indonesia prices have been revealed and they seem to be very competitive.

https://www.zigwheels.com/news-featu...evealed/37595/

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by BowMan

prices have been revealed and they seem to be very competitive.

Doesn't seem believable at all!

Those prices suggest the ZX-25R seem to be priced similar to the Ninja 250, forget even the Ninja 400! Since the scoop mentions government data, the prices could be prior to taxes etc.

The launch is still some time away in April. No other go than to play the waiting game!

[BowMan]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Doesn't seem believable at all!

Those prices suggest the ZX-25R seem to be priced similar to the Ninja 250, forget even the Ninja 400! Since the scoop mentions government data, the prices could be prior to taxes etc.

The launch is still some time away in April. No other go than to play the waiting game!

I believe the link also mentions some tax concessions on Sub 250cc segment in Indonesia. But even considering that I'd surely believe it is not entirely out of the realms of possibility that this motorcycle sees our shores.

What an encore it would be! The last of the great pocket rockets before the era of fossil fuel gets over and everyone is riding around on vibrators

Perfect thing to have in your garage for the days when oil will be rationed.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

One more teaser from Kawasaki -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_6OPe1ZJWk

On the track - it hits 17,000 rpm in 5th gear at 158kmph before he upshifts again. Has power modes and traction control too. Console looks very similar to the one on the outgoing Ninja 1000.

[ast.ggn]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

One more teaser from Kawasaki -

On the track - it hits 17,000 rpm in 5th gear at 158kmph before he upshifts again. Has power modes and traction control too. Console looks very similar to the one on the outgoing Ninja 1000.

By looking at the video, I think it will top out at 175-180 in stock form and power well under 50 ps. Given the speculation on the price and if that is the top end, I don't see any takers, atleast in India. It will be a very niche bike, appealing to very few people. It may sell well abroad though. That exhaust sounds awesome.