HVAC dust filter missing in your car too?

Mohan Mathew A · 23rd October 2013, 11:01

My Swift didn't have it. I asked Maruti ASS about it and they mentioned Maruti introduced it a few months back (not sure how true it is). I have asked them to install it. The price quoted is 340 Rs. He mentioned it fits in most maruti vehicles except wagon R and alto. So i assume it is a part which is common to many models

vikram_d · 23rd October 2013, 11:18

Both my previous cars didn't have them too even though there was a provision for them. My first car was an Esteem and my second was the 2006 Swift petrol.

I'm guessing a lot of Indian car manufacturers are not installing these filters as a cost cutting measure.

Swanand Inamdar · 23rd October 2013, 12:16

As Vikram has mentioned above, a lot of cars didn't have the filter, as a factory fitted accessory (if it can be called an accessory).

My Swift didn't have one either. Surprisingly, the A.S.S here in Pune (Sai Service) suggested I get one installed. Cost some ~2500 bucks, IIRC.

bharatbs · 23rd October 2013, 12:21

My 2011 honda city had an AC filter, just changed it during the routine service. It costed Rs 900.

sgiitk · 24th October 2013, 09:38

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Originally Posted by bharatbs

My 2011 Honda city had an AC filter, just changed it during the routine service. It costed Rs 900.

I am getting my Brio back from Honda at lunchtime. That too has the tray, so will check it out. Also, can you please measure and post the dimensions, for all we know they may be the same. Else, there is always the option of taking the smaller one and making an adapter for the bigger tray. I plan to post pictures and dimensions later. Considering I found about a dozen dried leaves, one wonders how much stuff goes through. This is when we use outside air settings very rarely, and the Civic has done under 15,000km.

alexpaul · 24th October 2013, 10:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohan Mathew A

My Swift didn't have it. I asked Maruti ASS about it and they mentioned Maruti introduced it a few months back (not sure how true it is). I have asked them to install it. The price quoted is 340 Rs. He mentioned it fits in most maruti vehicles except wagon R and alto. So i assume it is a part which is common to many models

Hi Mohan,
Few years back MASS was pestering me to install AC filter in my diesel Ritz which they had quoted Rs 2500/- but I refused . Is this the same filter that which you have now quoted as Rs 340/-?

Mohan Mathew A · 24th October 2013, 10:43

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Originally Posted by alexpaul

Hi Mohan,
Few years back MASS was pestering me to install AC filter in my diesel Ritz which they had quoted Rs 2500/- but I refused . Is this the same filter that which you have now quoted as Rs 340/-?

Although i can't be sure i would guess it probably is. My SA also was referring to it as AC filter. It is a white coloured filter about the size of a 200 page paperback book. I got it installed yesterday and the exact price is Rs. 311. I didn't notice much reduction in the fan speed and when put in re circulation there was considerable reduction in outside smell coming into the cabin. This feedback is based on a short drive today from home to office

Sankar · 24th October 2013, 11:37

Swift cabin filter installation
Click on the link below. This is applicable for Swift/Dzire (old & new) Ertiga, Ritz. This is a failry easy DIY and on a scale of 1 - 10 where 10 being the hardest i would rate it at 1.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...tallation.html

I don't remember exactly how much was charged for the MGA cabin filter but i remember it vaguely as around Rs350-400/- The equivalent Bosch filter which is of better quality is approximately Rs600/- (IIRC) and the Bosch activated carbon filter is around double that cost.

For Maruti vehicles with non open able AC filter compartment

And for Maruti vehicles with no open-able filter compartment (Astar and probably Alto/Wagon R too) its possible to install a cabin filter by cutting the cover and making a rectangular opening. The pictures below is of the AStar's blower assy with no open able filter slot

Non open-able AC filter compartment:

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Cut the plate alongside the border and re-use the cut plate + insulation/masking/duct tape to seal it back once the filter is in. It will be hidden so cosmetics aint an issue, function is. I used Bosch's Swift cabin filter for my AStar and it was a near perfect fit.

Cut along the edges as marked:

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I highly recommend installing a cabin/ac filter because it can considerably reduce the amount of dust/debris getting to the evaporator and resulting in a clogged evaporator. Its also a good idea to clean the evaporator every time the filter is changed using Gulf AC Neutralizer or similar product, make sure that the long plastic tube reaches down to the evaporator before foaming.

sgiitk · 24th October 2013, 14:06

Since the Brio may not be back before late in the evening I am posting the pics from the Civic.

The first frame shows the tray detail. The tray has been cleaned a bit. Note the locating /spacer lugs.

The second frame shows the tray almost out of the holder. Note the dried leaf. This is after some leaves were removed earlier.

The air flow is from the top to the bottom. The size is 227mm x 235mm x 30mm.

akshay4587 · 24th October 2013, 14:17

Is that a filter?

I have it in the Scorpio and the Linea.
In fact in the Linea,i have a choice to use a paper type filter or a wire mesh one.The one in the scorpio is a wiremesh filter.

sgiitk · 24th October 2013, 15:44

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Originally Posted by akshay4587

Is that a filter?

It is not the filter, but the tray which is supposed to hold it.

Also from the Civic maintenance forum

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironager

The cabin filter for the Honda Accord is a perfect fit in the civic.

Let us get the City dimensions, and maybe it is generic.

Puneet.S · 24th October 2013, 17:17

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Originally Posted by akshay4587

Is that a filter?

I have it in the Scorpio and the Linea.
In fact in the Linea,i have a choice to use a paper type filter or a wire mesh one.The one in the scorpio is a wiremesh filter.

My 2013 SLE doesnt have that in the cabin (behind the glove box). Would it be possible for you to post a pic of the filter please? ASC guys are ignorant about the same...

akshay4587 · 24th October 2013, 17:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puneet.S

My 2013 SLE doesnt have that in the cabin (behind the glove box). Would it be possible for you to post a pic of the filter please? ASC guys are ignorant about the same...

My 2010 SLE has it.
I havent removed it as a DIY ever,but its a wire mesh filter.
Will check if i can click a picture of it.

kamal.sn · 24th October 2013, 18:40

My Tucson had one already installed and i change the same myself every 5k-6k Kms. For those who are in Delhi, check out the shops on the ground floor of palika bhavan where cabin filters for various cars are available from a local company called zipfilter. I get the same from My tucson from here and the last time i got one it was for as little as Rs. 350 compared to the genuine filters sold by dealers which cost about Rs. 2500. The local make filters are of quality comparable to the original ones.

There is a catalog on the zip filter website with prices but the prices in palika bhavan are usually lower than the list prices.

http://www.zipfilter.com

a4anurag · 24th October 2013, 19:42

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Originally Posted by kamal.sn

My Tucson had one already installed and i change the same myself every 5k-6k Kms.

Why do you change the filter so frequently? Is the area that you live and drive so dusty that clogs the filter?

Anurag.

23rd October 2013, 11:01	#31
Mohan Mathew A BHPian Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kochi Posts: 564 Thanked: 591 Times	re: HVAC dust filter missing in your car too? My Swift didn't have it. I asked Maruti ASS about it and they mentioned Maruti introduced it a few months back (not sure how true it is). I have asked them to install it. The price quoted is 340 Rs. He mentioned it fits in most maruti vehicles except wagon R and alto. So i assume it is a part which is common to many models
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23rd October 2013, 11:18	#32
vikram_d Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,422 Thanked: 1,188 Times	re: HVAC dust filter missing in your car too? Both my previous cars didn't have them too even though there was a provision for them. My first car was an Esteem and my second was the 2006 Swift petrol. I'm guessing a lot of Indian car manufacturers are not installing these filters as a cost cutting measure.
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23rd October 2013, 12:16	#33
Swanand Inamdar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,644 Thanked: 587 Times	re: HVAC dust filter missing in your car too? As Vikram has mentioned above, a lot of cars didn't have the filter, as a factory fitted accessory (if it can be called an accessory). My Swift didn't have one either. Surprisingly, the A.S.S here in Pune (Sai Service) suggested I get one installed. Cost some ~2500 bucks, IIRC.
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23rd October 2013, 12:21	#34
bharatbs BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 422 Thanked: 158 Times View My Garage	re: HVAC dust filter missing in your car too? My 2011 honda city had an AC filter, just changed it during the routine service. It costed Rs 900.
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24th October 2013, 11:37	#38
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,784 Thanked: 9,253 Times	Cabin filter for Swift/Dzire/Ritz/Ertiga Swift cabin filter installation Click on the link below. This is applicable for Swift/Dzire (old & new) Ertiga, Ritz. This is a failry easy DIY and on a scale of 1 - 10 where 10 being the hardest i would rate it at 1. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...tallation.html I don't remember exactly how much was charged for the MGA cabin filter but i remember it vaguely as around Rs350-400/- The equivalent Bosch filter which is of better quality is approximately Rs600/- (IIRC) and the Bosch activated carbon filter is around double that cost. For Maruti vehicles with non open able AC filter compartment And for Maruti vehicles with no open-able filter compartment (Astar and probably Alto/Wagon R too) its possible to install a cabin filter by cutting the cover and making a rectangular opening. The pictures below is of the AStar's blower assy with no open able filter slot Non open-able AC filter compartment: Cut the plate alongside the border and re-use the cut plate + insulation/masking/duct tape to seal it back once the filter is in. It will be hidden so cosmetics aint an issue, function is. I used Bosch's Swift cabin filter for my AStar and it was a near perfect fit. Cut along the edges as marked: I highly recommend installing a cabin/ac filter because it can considerably reduce the amount of dust/debris getting to the evaporator and resulting in a clogged evaporator. Its also a good idea to clean the evaporator every time the filter is changed using Gulf AC Neutralizer or similar product, make sure that the long plastic tube reaches down to the evaporator before foaming. Last edited by Sankar : 24th October 2013 at 11:54.
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24th October 2013, 14:06	#39
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,809 Times	re: HVAC dust filter missing in your car too? Since the Brio may not be back before late in the evening I am posting the pics from the Civic. The first frame shows the tray detail. The tray has been cleaned a bit. Note the locating /spacer lugs. The second frame shows the tray almost out of the holder. Note the dried leaf. This is after some leaves were removed earlier. The air flow is from the top to the bottom. The size is 227mm x 235mm x 30mm. Attached Thumbnails
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24th October 2013, 14:17	#40
akshay4587 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chandigarh/Mohali/Ambala Cantt Posts: 4,157 Thanked: 4,722 Times View My Garage	re: HVAC dust filter missing in your car too? Is that a filter? I have it in the Scorpio and the Linea. In fact in the Linea,i have a choice to use a paper type filter or a wire mesh one.The one in the scorpio is a wiremesh filter.
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24th October 2013, 18:40	#44
kamal.sn BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New Delhi Posts: 149 Thanked: 88 Times	re: HVAC dust filter missing in your car too? My Tucson had one already installed and i change the same myself every 5k-6k Kms. For those who are in Delhi, check out the shops on the ground floor of palika bhavan where cabin filters for various cars are available from a local company called zipfilter. I get the same from My tucson from here and the last time i got one it was for as little as Rs. 350 compared to the genuine filters sold by dealers which cost about Rs. 2500. The local make filters are of quality comparable to the original ones. There is a catalog on the zip filter website with prices but the prices in palika bhavan are usually lower than the list prices. http://www.zipfilter.com Last edited by kamal.sn : 24th October 2013 at 18:44.
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