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Originally Posted by drpullockaran Correct if I ...... capacity. Varying away from the ideal weight will reduce grip especially lateral G's. |
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Originally Posted by vikram_d For 12th standard text books, things have been over simplified. They don't look at variables like tire flex, tread flex, heat, slip angle, tire deflection, etc. All of these variables make the contact patch important. Oh and F1 tyre sizes are governed by regulations. Remember the six wheeled car F1 car? If I remember correctly it was a Williams car. |
I work in a Tractor company and this same question in a different format haunts many people and many dont really have the answer for it - Why are the 2WD tractors Rear tyre bigger?
1) A contact patch between a tyre and a road is oval in nature. It can be increased by a) Increase the tyre width or b) Increase the diameter of the tyre.
As per Ideal static friction law area doesnot play a role in determining the Frictional force generated.
Frictional Force (F)= Coefficient of Friction (Mu) X Weight of the body(W)
so neither the Frictional force nor the Coefficient of Friction is dependent on Area then why do we really need a bigger contact patch (area)?
Well the above law is for ideal bodies which do not deform and also with no surface imperfections. But in real conditions both the tyre and the road deform and have external surface imperfections.The above law has no meaning if we simply skip the surface finish of the two bodies in contact in real world terms.
For bodies which deform the "Law of asperities" holds true. In simple terms Law of asperities states that surfaces of any body is made up of minute imperfections in the shape of a Hacksaw tooth (called as asperities). Imagine a Hacksaw which corresponds to the Tyre and oppositely faced and in contact with another hacksaw tooth corresponding to the road surface.So the tooth of the tyre rubber gets in the cavity of the road and vice versa. Due to movement these tooth try to shear or break out each other thus creating frictional force.(In this case it is obvious that the asperities on the rubber tyre side would be more easy to break/shear and so tyre wears out faster than the road.)
So more the number of asperities to break more the Frictional force. For a bigger area of contact or contact patch the number of asperities will be more thus creating more frictional force. So in real world a bigger contact patch ie. a big fat tyre will always give more better grip and braking as compared to a thinner tyre.
Consider the asperities in the micro concept, for very very large asperities such as a pothole the mechanics would change drastically.
One more point not to miss is that there exists a force of cohesion between the rubber tyre and the tarmac. A soft compound rubber tyre will have more force of cohesion with the tarmac thus also helping to increase the grip/traction. Its like the softer rubber will more properly fill all the minute cavities in the road in turn meaning more closely packed asperities to shear and rub against each other, otherwise as per the above discussion given the same contact patch a steel wheel should also have the same grip as a rubber tyre! Remember that when locomotive steel wheels start slipping on the rails, fine sand is used to create friction between the two.
Coefficient of friction depends upon the nature of materials in contact.
So again ideally a bald tyre should be more gripper than a tyre with treads. I also feel that treads hardly play a role in dry grip between tyre and good flat road conditions.
But practically it might not be so because:
a) The bald tyre might not have worn evenly causing uneven contact between tyre and road leading to reduced contact patch.
b) The rubber compound becomes harder and harder over the use of the tyre life period.
c) The rubber compound used below the tread depth might be more harder than the external rubber in contact when the tyre was new.
Tyre tread provides help in draining water outside the contact patch as soon as possible and its role is significant in non-ideal road conditions. For eg a Knobby tyre on a motor cross bike or a tractor tyre with lugs.
Other than these many other factors affect grip:
1) Non tarmac conditions.
2) The softer the compound of the rubber the higher the grip.
3) Slip angles.
4) Hard and soft suspension setup.
5) Nature of Tyre deformation during cornering and braking.
6) Weight transfer of the vehicle during braking and cornering.
7) Shape of the tyre when inflated for eg. some bike rear tyres have a more round shape profile for better cornering and higher lean angles but then they provide less support in straight line braking.
8) Less pressure in the tyre means more bigger contact patch so again increasing grip but leading to large scale tyre deformation which can also be detrimental sometimes.
One could also go through my comment on selecting a motorcyle tyre:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...ml#post2853071