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Originally Posted by greatmana2000 Try googling . I read in an earlier post that the European media was the one which published that the indica engine was the same as the TUD5 engine . |
Thats what the earlier post said, its a misconception with some section of media
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Why have the Tatas not denied it or peugeot denied it ? Of course , you may say that it might not matter , but i think in Europe it does matter .Peugeot would not allow their name to be slandered across in eu .
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If Peugot had claimed Royalties, only then Tata will offer a press release, otherwise why? Lots of things get published in media, many of them rumours, about many countries, yet companies do not deny or agree to all of the,
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Forget the indica , If Tatas had so much of expertise in designing engines why did they have to transisiton to Fiat engines ?
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Fiat has been selling cars all over the world, why did they come to to Tata to sell their cars here?
Its called technology sharing. When two countries enter an agreement like this, they try to get the best. Fiat engine is better than what tata managed in house. So it went with Fiat.
Dicor engine can go 90BHP on power, but then Tata would have had to design a gearbox from ground up to handle the additional torque.
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The Tatas before the indica launch or after the launch of Indica have not released an indigenously designed engine .. so I believe the Indica engine is definitely a derivative of some other engine .
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Huh, this is funny. So any time a company comes with an engine, its supposed to be a derivative. In a way all engines are derivative of the Otto Diesel engine invented more than 100 years ago.
As for engine design now, the game has changed.. Instead of reinventing the wheel mfrs are now collaborating. For example Bosch and Delphi supply common rails to many companies. Even competitors collaborate
Just because Tata collaborated with Fiat, it does not mean it cannot design engines on its own. Its just more cost effective to leverage existing tech
Here is a chart you may find interesting which will show you even companies like GM are using engines of other mfrs where they deem fit
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the bore and stroke of indica might have been reduced to reduce the displacement . the bore of tu3 and the bore of indica is the same though .
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Indica 1.4 engine block is capable of making 100bhp in petrol form(Tata indigo XL petrol is an example), and 90bhp in the diesel form. There is no way you can achieve such on TUD engine. Moreover, it revs upto 5000rpm.
If Tata had copied Peugot engine, peugot would have filed a lawsuit.
If tech was licensed, it would have been advertised. In automotive industry, its clearly mentioned when tech is licensed, nobody keeps licensing agreements top secret, and its not possible too
What European media is saying "Tata copied TUD5". If that was the truth Peugot would have gone to court.