Bharat Stage IV

sgiitk · 1st April 2010, 15:48

Also, saw the local noise adding the Fabia!

Now that all petrol is (or at least will be, by 1st October) 91RON can we expect the detuning of engines to stop, and see the same power output as the counterparts abroad?

gpa · 1st April 2010, 15:54

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Originally Posted by sgiitk

can we expect the detuning of engines to stop, and see the same power output as the counterparts abroad?

This is something to certainly look forward to

thedreamcatcher · 1st April 2010, 17:26

Dear Mods.

There are way too many threads on the BSIV now and it is essentially discussing similar points. Please merge the four threads together

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-stage-iv.html

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...y-euro-iv.html

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...bs4-norms.html

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-iv-norms.html

Please do the needful

dadu · 1st April 2010, 21:23

[quote=sgiitk;1815492]When can we expect BS-IV Premium (95RON) to be launched?

[\quote]

I didnt see any plans from the Ministry on that, their buck stops at Euro IV for now, unless fuel companies try it on their own.(doubtful)

car-dent · 2nd April 2010, 01:19

Will using BS-III and BS-IV fuel (alternatively/mixing) in BS IV cars have any effects on the engine in the long run?

thedreamcatcher · 2nd April 2010, 02:58

Not at all. Even now we use different quality or grade of fuels. Shell premium or even Shell vis a vis normal HP fuel. Between BS3 & 4 is just the quality and will not affect any running of the vehicle

shahen9 · 6th April 2010, 00:26

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challa · 6th April 2010, 19:09

Could someone throw some light on BS2 or BS1 vehicles using BS4 standard fuel ( both petrol and Diesel) do we need to use any filters in precaution than feeling sorry later.

challa · 6th April 2010, 19:58

I guess its a master plan by the government to move all BS1, BS2 and BS3 Vehicles outside developing cities. Ultimately person owing BS4 vehicle will think twice to take his vehicle for long drives, as he would not be able to source BS4 Fuel outside city limits, which will help in reducing traffic and fuel usage. Friends any thoughts about this?

SPIKE ARRESTOR · 6th April 2010, 20:31

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Originally Posted by challa

Could someone throw some light on BS2 or BS1 vehicles using BS4 standard fuel ( both petrol and Diesel) do we need to use any filters in precaution than feeling sorry later.

No need for any precaution, BS-IV is a cleaner fuel when compared to BS-I

Spike

davids4x4mm550 · 7th April 2010, 01:59

Will this also be the same for second hand cars for example if i pick up a 2000 model desil jeep from goa will i not get MH plates?

sgiitk · 7th April 2010, 10:26

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Originally Posted by challa

.......Ultimately person owing BS4 vehicle will think twice to take his vehicle for long drives, as he would not be able to source BS4 Fuel outside city limits, which will help in reducing traffic and fuel usage. Friends any thoughts about this?

Not exactly. No city has BS-I petrol. Making all non-BS-IV cities BS-III is delayed till October as OMCs are unable to produce enough of the stuff. If you go outside a BS-IV city use Premium which has ratings equal or better than BS-III. After 1 October you will get at least BS-III. Only area of trouble I see is some high level diesels with particulate filters, when they are released in India.

brijesh1977 · 7th April 2010, 13:53

okay that is with the cars and small vehicles , but what are they going to do with the trucks and buses , i guess you still have trucks and buses that are more than 15 years

GTO · 8th April 2010, 10:56

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Originally Posted by davids4x4mm550

Will this also be the same for second hand cars for example if i pick up a 2000 model desil jeep from goa will i not get MH plates?

Nope, the Mumbai RTO will no longer allow you to register an out of state BS I / II / III used car as a Mumbai car. However, cars that are already Mumbai registered (BS I / II / III) can of course be transferred within Mumbai.

One option available to you is to register the Jeep with a Nasik RTO (or any other town). That's of course if you have a valid address.

sgiitk · 8th April 2010, 11:26

@GTO: what do they do for a Vintage Car?

The rule should be the car should conform the the standards applicable at the time of first registration/manufacture.

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thedreamcatcher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,204 Thanked: 66 Times View My Garage	Dear Mods. There are way too many threads on the BSIV now and it is essentially discussing similar points. Please merge the four threads together http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-stage-iv.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...y-euro-iv.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...bs4-norms.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-iv-norms.html Please do the needful
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dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,803 Thanked: 462 Times View My Garage	[quote=sgiitk;1815492]When can we expect BS-IV Premium (95RON) to be launched? [\quote] I didnt see any plans from the Ministry on that, their buck stops at Euro IV for now, unless fuel companies try it on their own.(doubtful)
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2nd April 2010, 01:19	#35
car-dent BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NOIDA Posts: 284 Thanked: 469 Times	Will using BS-III and BS-IV fuel (alternatively/mixing) in BS IV cars have any effects on the engine in the long run?
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2nd April 2010, 02:58	#36
thedreamcatcher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,204 Thanked: 66 Times View My Garage	Not at all. Even now we use different quality or grade of fuels. Shell premium or even Shell vis a vis normal HP fuel. Between BS3 & 4 is just the quality and will not affect any running of the vehicle
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shahen9 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bombay Posts: 18 Thanked: 7 Times	Post Deleted by the Team-BHP Support : SMS / Slang is STRICTLY prohibited on this community. We would much appreciate your using full & proper English in posts, for the benefit of other forum users. Please view our board rules carefully before proceeding any further. Last edited by GTO : 6th April 2010 at 14:52.
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6th April 2010, 19:09	#38
challa BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 81 Thanked: Once	Could someone throw some light on BS2 or BS1 vehicles using BS4 standard fuel ( both petrol and Diesel) do we need to use any filters in precaution than feeling sorry later.
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challa BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 81 Thanked: Once	I guess its a master plan by the government to move all BS1, BS2 and BS3 Vehicles outside developing cities. Ultimately person owing BS4 vehicle will think twice to take his vehicle for long drives, as he would not be able to source BS4 Fuel outside city limits, which will help in reducing traffic and fuel usage. Friends any thoughts about this? Last edited by challa : 6th April 2010 at 20:04. Reason: Grammer correction
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davids4x4mm550 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: pune Posts: 330 Thanked: 88 Times	Will this also be the same for second hand cars for example if i pick up a 2000 model desil jeep from goa will i not get MH plates?
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brijesh1977 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: cochin Posts: 45 Thanked: 5 Times	okay that is with the cars and small vehicles , but what are they going to do with the trucks and buses , i guess you still have trucks and buses that are more than 15 years
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8th April 2010, 11:26	#45
sgiitk BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,969 Thanked: 4,788 Times	@GTO: what do they do for a Vintage Car? The rule should be the car should conform the the standards applicable at the time of first registration/manufacture.
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