[libranof1987]

Originally Posted by charthom

One automobile magazine remarked that in India cruise control will be as useless as a bicycle to a fish!!But ACC-even fish will be happier

Sure.Once the monsoons are over and our pot holes are sufficiently filled,I hope to get about 13.5 City and 16 hoghway.Too optimistic?

I have penned my reasonings to dot.Can you evaluate?

Cruise control - well, that's what a premium car is for!

You are being too optimistic about the pot holes being filled!
If driven sedately (read : not 100+ km/hr), you should easily get 16 km/l on the highway with a/c. 13.5 km/l in the city looks slightly optimistic considering I get around 14 km/l for my MT City.

Oh, for a moment I thought the 3D mats were 3-D (blame it on a slew of 3D movies these days!); was racking my brains about how a mat could be 3D!

Yea, beige would definitely lighten up the cabin; just keep them clean in the monsoons! Do the mats remain in place or they move easily? How comfortably does the foot rest on them - any chance it might slip on the mats?

[nkrishnap]

Congrats on the Honda City mate. The Auto box will keep you happy in the rush hour bumper to bumper traffic. Lovely color by the way.

The caska unit seems to be integrated in to the dash perfectly and frankly has enhanced the interior looks.

Enjoy many more happy miles with the Automatic car.

[sgiitk]

Congratulations, and welcome to the Honda AT owners group. Even my Civic surprised me with 15+mpg on the highway. Of course if you go pedal to metal (engage the vTec) then expect about 20% lower. Also, the economy indicator is optimistic by about 10%.

[M00M]

Originally Posted by charthom

@M00M,Thanks for the good wishes.It is great that you too are considering an ANHC.Regarding the Caska HU- ours is model no.IN3631G.It is City specific.I paid

55000/-with Mapmyindia and reverse cam.They are promoting Satguide as original equipment.So insist on Mapmyindia.Also remember to opt for Reverse cam,not

just a sensor.Mumbai nos:Matrix Corporation-9987554535/26603014.

Thanks for the information. Will look into it. Get well soon.

[CRtorquefan]

Congratulations alot on buying the New ANHC V-AT.

Originally Posted by charthom

I can see no new ownership report on the City. No one seems inclined to buy it. Or are they buying it but are not interested /embarrassed to share the experiences?

Yesterday, I got the chance to checkout my best friend's New fluidic Verna 1.6 CRDI, which he brought same evening & realised what the Honda City is. Just missed the Ergonomically designed ANHC's Driving position, Rear Seat, Racy Civic-steering wheel & Premium-ness.
& with these justifications, I equally appreciate your decision of buying a Honda City & AT with Paddle shifters is really a pleasure to use.
Not to mention, CASKA ICE really looks Brilliant.

[sydras]

Originally Posted by charthom

@sydras,thanks for the wishes.Now the Exclusive package is offered as a separate kit.So,the overflow of chrome is no more by default.You may choose the leather seats and the steering wrap only.The seats may be done after market-not the steering(which should have been standard on a premium car anyway).Hence I opted for this version.

Do you think it is advisable to go for K&N filters etc to enhance FE?My Sales exec claimed that they are using synthetic oil only.

The bad service is definitely a matter of concern.I have not been to the Service centre yet-am hoping for the best.

Tyre upgrade may bring down mileage further.Do only if absolutely necessary.Michelin XM1+ are good too-but are they really contemporary now?

More pics soon!!

Oh, that's much better. Now, one can actually pay for items that are worth the money for eg: leather seat covers, leather wrapped steering, leather wrapped gearknob(on manual transmission only I think).

Sorry, I don't know a lot about K&N filters. I don't think they use synthetic oil by default. You need to get it replaced during a service at Rs 663/- per litre and the City requires 3.6L of oil costing a total of around 2.4K. I think they use Mobil 1. From what I've read on team-bhp, I believe it is better to let your car run for some 10,000-15,000 kms before making a switch. However, I am just trying out synthetic oil and hoping that it will make some difference to the mileage.

The service at Whitefield Honda is not exactly bad. It's like someone else pointed out - they act like nothing can go wrong with a Honda. I suspect it's because they are just waiting for the free services to get over but also, my car has only run 2,500 kms in the last six months so my usage is low.

Their accessories dept. however is bad. During purchase, I had asked them for a trunk mat. They showed me one for the 2nd gen Honda City. Six months are over and they are still not able to procure one for the ANHC when I inquired. During my 2nd service, I'd asked them for a steering cover. They did not have one. During my 3rd service, I asked for it again. This time, they showed me a light grey cover that does not match the ANHC interiors at all and asked me to go for an Ovion leather one costing 4K if I wanted it in black. They are poorly stocked and really don't seem to care that they don't have any usable ANHC accessories.

[libranof1987]

Originally Posted by sydras

I don't think they use synthetic oil by default.

Six months are over and they are still not able to procure one for the ANHC when I inquired.....They are poorly stocked and really don't seem to care that they don't have any usable ANHC accessories.

Yea, they use mineral oil as defualt.

Poorly stocked accessories? Read this : When I'd taken my ANHC for routine 3rd free service, there were a couple of spots on the front bumper that had minute scratches. So, I asked to touch them up (this job is done Free-Of-Cost). My ANHC is the red one. Imagine, they are yet to have that shade of colour for touch up jobs! They have only the shades for NHC.

[RemingtonSteele]

Originally Posted by charthom

Or are they buying it but are not interested /embarrassed to share the experiences?

Well, I am one among them to be blamed for this.
Mine is an exactly one year old Taffeta White ANHC-VMT and had been too lazy to pen down the experience. Well till now I have clocked 19.7K so, hopefully I will pen down a "Happy & extremely satisfied" mid-term or long-term ownership report soon.

My car came with MRF ZVTV tyres-not Michelin XM1s. The Sales people expressed their helplessness. If found unsatisfactory, I might upgrade to 195/60 R15 Michelin XM1+s ( hope these are the ideal ones).

Michelin XM1s are really quiet & grippier than the MRF ZVTV. 195/60 R15 is really the ideal upgrade. Research Michelin XM1+s or even the Michelin Primacy LC (I think @dot has Primacy LC, take his word).
The only issue with the upgrade is voiding suspension warranty.

Originally Posted by charthom

@RemingtonSteele,thanks for all the kind words.You were among the people who advised me about a new car in my now non-existent first thread about a suitable car for my wife with bad back.Thanks for that too.

Oh yeah, I do remember that thread which was deleted the next day for many such pre-existing threads.
Well many will advice you different things as per their experiences but it all depends on you to make a right decision by weighing pro's and con's as per one's requirement; and I must say you indeed made a right decision.

Originally Posted by charthom

Also beige blends with the cabin colour theme adding to the brightness and feeling of space.
More pics soon!!

Yes, I agree the beige will add to the brightness and hence more roomy-ness.
And yes, waiting for more pics soon.

[drmohitg]

Originally Posted by libranof1987

You are being too optimistic about the pot holes being filled!
If driven sedately (read : not 100+ km/hr), you should easily get 16 km/l on the highway with a/c. 13.5 km/l in the city looks slightly optimistic considering I get around 14 km/l for my MT City.

It really beats me how you guys manage to get 13+ kmpl with 100% AC on in the city. Are the routes you drive on are relatively free? In Delhi our NHC struggles to give 10-10.5 kmpl. I have tried trying different pumps and even used to haggle with the Honda A.S.S in the early services but nothing is wrong with the car according to them. Is the NHC particularly prone to give that sort of figures or what?

[vasoo]

Boy, you are a real fan of this car! Congrats on getting the best petrol sedan in that segment. Suggest you to try using the paddles more frequently, it is fun to use and helps to get better FE as well. Using it to emulate engine braking also help to reduce brake wear. On ANHC being 90% civic at 75% price, well I dont agree, for obvious reasons

[bluevolt]

Originally Posted by drmohitg

It really beats me how you guys manage to get 13+ kmpl with 100% AC on in the city. Are the routes you drive on are relatively free? In Delhi our NHC struggles to give 10-10.5 kmpl. I have tried trying different pumps and even used to haggle with the Honda A.S.S in the early services but nothing is wrong with the car according to them. Is the NHC particularly prone to give that sort of figures or what?

Generally the i-VTEC is supposed to give more mileage due to its intelligent nature. If driven sedately the car is capable of giving even better mileage.

PS - Make sure you inflate your car's tyre with correct pressure.

[Sn1p3r]

@Drmogitg: NHC is a frugal car, it used to give me 12 in city all the time and 18 at highway.

My 1 year old ANHC today completed 1 year and has clocked 9011 km so far, gives me approx 12kmpl and if driven on highway @80 km/h gives 18kmpl and @120 km/h does at 16kmpl.

Best recorded mileage till date: 18.6 kmpl for a leisure trip 100km.

Worst: engaging vtech as soon as I completed 5k km 7.5kmpl for 25 km. The fuel gauge showed I was doing less than 5 kmpl but refill at the station showed otherwise. ANHC fuel gauge is off by about 1kmpl this is due to the fact it shows 40kmpl once you let the car decelerate.

I however noticed that being in the correct gear is what matters the most. If you lug or unnecessary accelerate and brake then it's not going to add to fuel efficiency numbers.

[drmohitg]

Originally Posted by bluevolt

Generally the i-VTEC is supposed to give more mileage due to its intelligent nature. If driven sedately the car is capable of giving even better mileage.

PS - Make sure you inflate your car's tyre with correct pressure.

We keep 32 psi all over. Is that wrong? The car is driven by our driver but since my dad is there in the back seat 95% of the time, I can guarantee the car is driven sedately. I am also sure the driver doesn't fleece off petrol like reported sometime back in one of the threads. The miserable mileage is making us think of changing to a Diesel sedan.

[libranof1987]

Originally Posted by drmohitg

It really beats me how you guys manage to get 13+ kmpl with 100% AC on in the city. Are the routes you drive on are relatively free? In Delhi our NHC struggles to give 10-10.5 kmpl. I have tried trying different pumps and even used to haggle with the Honda A.S.S in the early services but nothing is wrong with the car according to them. Is the NHC particularly prone to give that sort of figures or what?

Well, the ANHC is driven in Gurgaon so you can be assured it is in near about same conditions!

Originally Posted by drmohitg

We keep 32 psi all over. Is that wrong? The car is driven by our driver but since my dad is there in the back seat 95% of the time, I can guarantee the car is driven sedately. I am also sure the driver doesn't fleece off petrol like reported sometime back in one of the threads. The miserable mileage is making us think of changing to a Diesel sedan.

I don't remember the recommended pressure but if 32psi is what it is, that should be fine. Gear changes play an imp. role in FE too; in combination to driving style.

Being in Delhi, I assume the NHC is being driven with 100% a/c. How old is your car? All the ANHCs proudly showing off their FE on this thread are max. 2yrs. So, I'd suggest you not think that your NHC is not returning good FE figures. How are the FE figures like for comparable (age-wise) NHCs? That should be an appropriate comparison.

[bluevolt]

Originally Posted by drmohitg

We keep 32 psi all over. Is that wrong? The car is driven by our driver but since my dad is there in the back seat 95% of the time, I can guarantee the car is driven sedately. I am also sure the driver doesn't fleece off petrol like reported sometime back in one of the threads. The miserable mileage is making us think of changing to a Diesel sedan.

32 psi is absolutely correct pressure. I guess 10-11 KMPL is normal for NHC, other NHC owners may please share your mileage to clear any doubt. As you are getting this mileage from beginning I guess there is no problem with the car either.

Anyhow I guess we are going off topic and hijacking charthom's thread, Mods kindly excuse for the same.