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| ![]() It's sad to see you are facing so many small but highly irritating issues since the start. I dare say. Sell it. Nothing is more important than peace of mind. Ever after spending so much money if you have to raise your BP every time when you take it for a drive then it's simply not worth it. You have Creta and Swift as well so selling City won't make much a difference in commuting. Buy something else if you need to. Though on a personal note I will be sad to see your car go as your review was the one which finally made my mind to buy City. |
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![]() These persistent issues just kill the joy of owning a product, you already have 2 cars now and if you want you can get some other C segment sedan for you, City has good resale so you would not lose much value either. If i would have bought a City for its peace of mind negating driving dynamics and then i do not even get that peace of mind, i can understand how angry you must be. Wonder what went up Honda's head to do such rampant cost cutting on new gen City, this definitely hurts brand image. To sell your old City for the I-Dtec was not a great decision it seems ![]() | |
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Yes, after spending over a million bucks on a car, one would expect for the basic things to be right at least. Glass-cracking sounds when windows are rolled down, doors not locking shut, wires/couplers moving out of place by themselves, rattle-prone dashboards - such things are not expected from 10,00,000+ costing cars. More so from Honda offerings, who has gained a reputation from the ground up based on one thing and one thing only - reliability. The "Honda" badge is synonymous with this one single biggest quality, and is still the big reason why the Citys, Jazzes & Amazes sell so well. Thoroughly disappointing experience for me. The only redeeming factor of the 2014 City till now has been the i-DTEC which, although annoying in it's NVH levels and reminds me of a tractor every time it's cranked up and run, is a pretty frugal beast and has enough tractability in both low and high RPMs to keep it's performance flag flying, fuel economy-wise and running-wise. Quote:
My Silver Pegasus was a beauty. Not a rattle, nor a squeak in it's 2-year run with me. I modded her to glory, even then there wasn't any complaints from her through sudden niggles or rattles in all the new parts/panels/fittings done on her. Heck, not even a damn puncture! I should have stuck with her. Even though she was the Base variant (Corporate Edition), she was absolutely fantastic in this one aspect - miles ahead in sheer quality. Last edited by RavenAvi : 24th August 2015 at 22:40. | ||
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I only have one question in my mind now: Is HONDA desperate to become the No. 1 in rattling department which is now held by Maruti Suzuki?! Are these guys absolutely out of their minds and what on earth are they smoking when they did come up with this Generation of City? All I can say is this car now sells only by the brand loyalty and feedback from older generation City customers. If this was to sell only by feedback from the current generation owners then I can tell that the production lines for Honda will be empty / idle. May be they can rent out the line to Maruti or Hyundai who are falling short of capacities v/s demand. Quote:
I can forgive rattling, paint quality or any misfit items that can be corrected at a later stage but such issues like misfit/loose couplers etc that too for utter crucial equipments is just NOT acceptable from a manufacturer. They better stop manufacturing! Quote:
With the City now hardly used, I feel you palm it off without any second thought. There is the Swift anyway at home for any other requirements (Like local errands/shopping/school pick up or drop) so the City is nothing but a dead inventory for you. Awaiting a decision on this. | |||
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True, the engine is remarkable. Not a beast like Verna but a perfect all rounder. On a side note. There are many people complaining about rattles. I haven't observed any in my car and i drive in the city which has probably the worst roads in the country at present. I hate Maruti cars only cos of their excessive rattling and seems like Honda is going down in this dept. too. | |
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![]() That probably was the last specimen from Honda before they completely re-positioned themselves in India. And if I remember correctly, your car had wonderful all-black interiors as well. Any possible replacements lined up? | |
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Just take a look at the Ciaz both inside and out - the level of attention given to the minute details and the sheer quality of materials used inside is very commendable. After that, the S-Cross. Except for the stalks and buttons which have been picked from the common bin, all other sections and materials exude quality - dashboard, plastics, door covers, etc. Don't have to go too far to cite another example - our July 2014 Swift ZXI hasn't had even a single rattle/niggle/defect in it's 5500-odd kms journey with us so far. Parts and plastic quality might be bad, but it's much ahead of the 2014 City in this one regard! Maruti-Suzuki are actually upping their game. Honda India are taking theirs down. Quote:
But a swift read of the Official City review reveals that even later batches and also some 2015 Citys are plagued with niggles/loose parts/defects, etc. Something is definitely wrong with the Honda QC team. Indeed! Quote:
The all-black interiors looked fabulous. Complimented them with a lovely set of Autoform seat covers, a Pioneer 2490 AVN unit, Focal components in front, JBL GTO components in rear, ambient lighting, nomad mats, etc., and the cabin was THE place to be. *Sigh* Quote:
One of the interested buyers is scheduled to drop by later tonight. Let's see what happens. Last edited by RavenAvi : 25th August 2015 at 19:29. | |||||
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After I sold the car and cancelled the HPA the SBI bank manager called me up and asked me if I was interested in selling the car as he wanted to buy it. He thought I had kept it in park & sell. | |
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Honda are you reading? You can't do customers anymore and take things for granted. The "Chalta Hai" attitude will backfire hard at one point of time. Hope they can cope with it then! Quote:
Both my Ritz VDi at 1.1L at the time of selling and my current steed the Swift ZDi at 53K kms haven't rattled just as cars from Maruti Suzuki are labeled as. Quote:
What are you expecting the city to sell at? | |||
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Sad to see the new model fail to live up to the standards the brand ' honda city' was known for. | |
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They have asked if Empress was involved in an accident in-between, and if that is the reason why the passenger-side door is misaligned and the driver door glass is creating the sound when the window is rolled down. My SA assured them that nothing of that sort has happened with Empress, and that the passenger-side door has this issue from delivery day itself, while the driver-door's glass problem started from May 2014. Still, they aren't convinced and are asking for an independent, thorough check of Empress by separate technicians. Seriously, it was a moment when I couldn't decide whether to laugh or to cry! Wish there really was an accident involved, like they are so shamelessly insinuating! ![]() Quote:
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I have described the niggles to the new owner, and he was fine with them, and said he would get them taken care of. He test drove Empress a number of times and is genuinely interested in buying her. I hope he can sort through the annoying niggles and she serves him well in the days to come. Haven't thought of any yet, but it's a given that our next car won't be a Honda. That's for sure. But, I would like to commend my local Honda dealership, Shubh Honda, for steadfastly standing by me through all this. I was always given a patient hearing, all issues were tackled by them to the best of their ability, and they did what they could to keep my City as well as she could be. Thank you, the team of Shubh Honda, and my wonderful SA, Deepak Tiwari. Much indebted for all your support. ODO is at 13,194 kms. Mods, feel free to close this thread whenever you see fit. Last edited by RavenAvi : 26th August 2015 at 20:02. Reason: Added a thank-you note for the dealership. | ||||
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| ![]() Ravenavi, I had been a silent follower of this thread from the time your review was posted and I feel sad at the fact that you are parting ways with the Empress. A BIG SHAME on Honda for going downhill in terms of quality on what I thought would be the best City to be made. I am a proud owner of the third gen Honda City bought in March 2011. The 3rd gen City is just superb in terms of peace of mind ownership and I can live with bad plastic quality compared to the number of issues you have faced with Empress. Mine has run only 24,000 km's but not a single rattle is heard and so far I have really worried about nothing and nothing more than regular service has been done till date. I mean seriously Honda what is your QC department doing ? Wires coming out of place, damaged door hinges , damn these are not the kind of problems you as an owner should be addressing when you have payed a million bucks for you so called premium sedan ![]() ![]() Regards, Swamyzen Last edited by swamyzen : 26th August 2015 at 20:27. |
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![]() Have they hired someone from Skoda/VW group in the customer relations centre? These guys have lost it completely. A few days I was discussing the same with rockporiom over phone regarding his City niggles. I was amazed to see how bad a company can go down to within a year. One new launch and they have destroyed the car totally! My friend was at one of the Honda dealership to buy a city so while he was checking out the car, I was chatting with the SA's there and asked why are the new generation cars so irritating and not reliable. He frowns at me saying - All cars from factor are perfect. I was like LOL! I had screen shots of your car niggles, rockporiom's car niggle and the thread opened by cRaZy DrIVeR on the 2014 Honda City. I was shocked to hear the reply - It is NOT Possible. We have been selling the City and not received any complaints. Mind you that day they sold 8-9 Honda City's (more of i-DTEC). As I can see that you have received a good offer and have decided to part ways with the car. I give you a ![]() Best is to get rid of niggling vehicle and have it lying in the garage which will deteriorate it further. Do give my wishes and All the best to the new owner of your car. Do keep in touch with him to know the cars condition as days pass by! | |
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| ![]() RavenAvi, sorry to hear about these issues in such a beautifully maintained car. Even my 4 year old Etios at 35000 kms doesn't have any rattles, whatsoever. I think it's best to sell off such a melon. And anyways, your other two cars will serve you just fine, without the constant niggling. This is the sole reason that I've stayed away from the new City and bought the Duster instead. All the best! |
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Just an example- couple of days back I went for a ride in my friends Dad's Indigo. He was cribbing a lot that Indigo is now too old and his father wants to buy another car and dispose this off. So, I suggested him Aspire or Zest as per his budget. He straight away said NO. His father doesn't like Ford and is considering Amaze cos it's a HONDA. No logic could make him see that Ford Aspire is a better car than Amaze. That's how most Indian car buyers are with their rigid mentality and Maruti and Honda are best reliable cars perceptions. | |
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