[jkdas]

Originally Posted by m-hawk

Overall experience:
Decided not to buy it - till they can offer and automatic transmission as clutch pedal is still hard.

THis is the repy i got when i inquired about the automatic transmission if any being offered !!
It s high time there aint not a single indian muv/suv offering automatic !!!
Can anyone put light to it ??
A m-hawk with automatic transmission should surely sell becoz this engine is targeted to the auto enthusiast for regluar chauffer commuting anyone will prefer to save a copule of lacs and go for the 2.6 crde unit !!![/quote]

2.6 CRDe are to be stopped soon and replaced by 2.2 even for base versions. Thread exists regarding this topic.

Originally Posted by govigov

Had a test drive of the mhawk, power feels good, responsive engine, 4th gear in 1200 rpm, and still no knock, but had to down shift at 1000rpm. brakes are ok. interiors were a big let down.

How was the ride/handling.

[smsrini]

The m-Hawk is a learning experience for Mahindra who want to take the scorp to the US/European markets... hence the cruise control, ABS and other mods on the m-hawk...

[harryberry2]

hey what about the engine performance as compared with its predecessor?

[m_upreti]

Any Idea if Mahindra is going to come out with 2.2 engine on the base models, TD on both 2.6 & 2.3 has proved 2.2. to be much better as far as pickup & performance are concerned, but the current 2.2 is going over my budget.

If M & M are planning for a cheaper 2.2. versions without the frills I am willing to wait for some time.

[.anshuman]

The ABS system in Scorpio VLX is 3 channel system without EBD,whereas Safari comes with 4channel ABS with EBD.

[raj_5004]

are u sure that the safari comes with EBD???
i have never read anywhere that EBD is offered in safari.
also, for me the price hike of the mHAWK seems ok as i test drove it and found the engine to be much more superior than the safari 2.2 in terms of refinement and driveability. also, i have heard its fuel efficient.
also, nobody we should not complain that mahindra dint offer climate control because none of its competitors do. even the costlier innova does not have it. yes, i really wish they provided airbags and electric RVMs, but think of it guys, humans are selfish. we will keep demanding more and more and if mahindra prices the scorpio at 20 lakhs with all the mentioned features, who is gonna buy it? they have to keep the costs down, right?

[bIte tHe bulLet]

Originally Posted by raj_5004

also, nobody we should not complain that mahindra dint offer climate control because none of its competitors do. even the costlier innova does not have it. yes, i really wish they provided airbags and electric RVMs, but think of it guys, humans are selfish. we will keep demanding more and more and if mahindra prices the scorpio at 20 lakhs with all the mentioned features, who is gonna buy it? they have to keep the costs down, right?

raj,

with all due respect, i beg to differ.

to keep costs under control, airbags and electric rvms are necessities as opposed to rain sensing wipers and cruise control which is pure gimmicry.

yes a price hike for new technology in the engine is justifiable, but what we have here is a company trying to justify an unjustifiable rise in price, by offering flashy bits of kit which are not essential, but will appeal to some people with more spare cash, than what they know what to do with.

if the consumer were to sit up and lambast car makers, enough to have atleast airbags and abs standardised - i can guarantee that in the long run, costs would remain the same. we just lack the will to do so and in the process fall prey to gimmics such as these. it's all about the bottom line and these guys have substantial bottoms!!!

the tatas and the mahindras are both to blame equally in this regard.

i do not intend disrespect or offence. just voicing an opinion.

p.s. the costlier innova is miles superior in build quality to both the tata safari and the mahindra scorpio... and at 20 lakhs even a monkey wouldn't buy the scorpio!!!

[jkdas]

Originally Posted by raj_5004

are u sure that the safari comes with EBD???
i have never read anywhere that EBD is offered in safari.
also, for me the price hike of the mHAWK seems ok as i test drove it and found the engine to be much more superior than the safari 2.2 in terms of refinement and driveability. also, i have heard its fuel efficient.
also, nobody we should not complain that mahindra dint offer climate control because none of its competitors do. even the costlier innova does not have it. yes, i really wish they provided airbags and electric RVMs, but think of it guys, humans are selfish. we will keep demanding more and more and if mahindra prices the scorpio at 20 lakhs with all the mentioned features, who is gonna buy it? they have to keep the costs down, right?

TATA Motors - Safari DICOR It has it seems

Originally Posted by bIte tHe bulLet

raj,

with all due respect, i beg to differ.

to keep costs under control, airbags and electric rvms are necessities as opposed to rain sensing wipers and cruise control which is pure gimmicry.

yes a price hike for new technology in the engine is justifiable, but what we have here is a company trying to justify an unjustifiable rise in price, by offering flashy bits of kit which are not essential, but will appeal to some people with more spare cash, than what they know what to do with.


p.s. the costlier innova is miles superior in build quality to both the tata safari and the mahindra scorpio... and at 20 lakhs even a monkey wouldn't buy the scorpio!!!

well said.

OT, whats with 20 and you

[condor]

bIte tHe bulLet : the tatas and the mahindras are both to blame equally in this regard.

And what did the rest of the motley crowd of car manufacturers do to help this situation ? Zilch.

Maurti - India's biggest car manufacturer. Hyundai - dont they have big enough numbers ? Even if one of these had taken the lead, and offered air-bags & ABS as standard equipment, others would have followed suit and Indian car industry would have witnessed a landmark change.

GM, Toyota, Honda - why couldn't they do it ? Dont they pride themselves about quality products ?

It was finally Tata who has said that they will make some of these 'luxuries', standard equipment on their models. At least there's a start.

[rkg]

Originally Posted by condor

And what did the rest of the motley crowd of car manufacturers do to help this situation ? Zilch.

Maurti - India's biggest car manufacturer. Hyundai - dont they have big enough numbers ? Even if one of these had taken the lead, and offered air-bags & ABS as standard equipment, others would have followed suit and Indian car industry would have witnessed a landmark change.

GM, Toyota, Honda - why couldn't they do it ? Dont they pride themselves about quality products ?

It was finally Tata who has said that they will make some of these 'luxuries', standard equipment on their models. At least there's a start.

Well said

it is TATA who has introduced many safety futures in hatches in INDIA which are not present even in high end cars.

[Ranga]

I just booked my Scorpio M Hawk 2.2 VLX in Sirish Motors today . Delivery scheduled for next week . Will post a detailed review of what i feel about Scorpio , M Hawk & my test drive experience