When Safari lovers TD a Scorpio mHawk! EDIT:Its a Safari

Magma · 16th June 2008, 10:10

Hmmm..
The Devil wins.?i Guess hes not all that bad.

shankar.balan · 16th June 2008, 10:14

Well done!
A humourous and slightly back handed review TSK!
But a fair one in most ways and a little subjective in some others - no need to mention which ones though because theres no need to have an argument again!
Cheers and I do hope you decide on what you are going to enjoy driving for the medium term!
Best of luck!

HappyWheels · 16th June 2008, 10:23

A very honest review, that too coming from a person who is known (and openly acknowledged) inclination to the Safari.

Would love to see the final outcome!

Samurai · 16th June 2008, 10:42

Tanveer, here is a litmus test. If Safari EX 2.2 4x4 and Scorpio mHawk 4x4 are identically priced, what would you choose?

PatienceWins · 16th June 2008, 10:43

Good write up Tanveer!!

We have a Scorpio 2.6 CRDe in family. I am 6 2 tall and I am not happy with the space in the front, the ride at the back is very bumpy and the handling is bad.

The car is powerful and feels like a Sedan in city with good low end torque. It is definitely value for money in that price range.

I need to TD a 2.2 to see if Mahindra has rectified the handling and comfort at back seat.

thalavoy · 16th June 2008, 10:44

Enjoyed every minute of the review. When deciding my next car (have been lusting after some good affordable SUVs) I will have Scorpio at the top of my list. Hopefully the next gen will have decent cabin space.

Zappo · 16th June 2008, 10:46

I rely on your views much more in this case than scores of others.

So when you say Scorp has it one up on the Safari I believe you. And thats worrysome as you said. Till date I have had this idea (in a semi solid state of fructification) that maybe my next car will be a Safari. You have now sown a seed of doubt in my mind.

By the way, did you take the car beyond 80? If so was it ok to handle? Many people seem to suggest beyond 80 Scorp is a rocky boat, particularly when thrown around. I wanted to know your views on that.

Also, with such a difference in engine characteristics I guess you have put to rest "the mother of all conspiracies" theory of the Tata and M&M having secretly together bought an engine off the shelf and used it in both their respective vehicles. Hmmm...

condor · 16th June 2008, 10:57

@tsk, 3rd row in the Scorp is & will be so, unless they change lot of things.

Ultimately, a vehicle is more than the engine. Safari is still ahead in area os Space, styling & comfort.

SumitBahl · 16th June 2008, 10:58

Excellent write-up.
I have the 1st gen scorpio 2.6
Engine is great, pickup is amazing. Cabin space and comfort (leg room and inclination of back seat) is not good. I have heard that they have made improvements in the new models.
My scorpio has 1.5 lac KMs on ODO. No major repairs so far, just the normal service.

There is no doubt that safari is far ahead in terms of looks and styling. Also the cabin space, but it does not have that rev.

suman · 16th June 2008, 11:11

Tanveer, loved the write-up, I think the devil has bitten you & you should go for it

.

But is 4x4 available even on order on the Mhawk?

SRShrikanth · 16th June 2008, 11:15

Tanveer,

Thank you for a very selfless review. Very well-written emotional feature.

Am sure there are quite a few of us - sedan & hatchback owners - for whom the Safari - is truly the zenith of an Indian 4X4 experience. Add to it, the image factor etc.

I have personally Td'ed ( twice ) & driven around in friend's Safari 2.2 VTT's & the newer Scorp-Hawks and come back feeling pretty much " Cat-on-the-wall" kinds.

Heart says - Safari ( for it's pure elegance as a 4X4 should be, something very personal) and the little devil in the mind says, the scorp engine is swell buddy, go for it.!!!

So much so, that last month i ended up booking a VTT 2.2 and then a week later called them to transfer the same to my cousin who needed the vehicle before me. And the quandary starts all over again for me.

Your decision process only help me fix a few more holes in this process.

Thank you, actually.

benbsb29 · 16th June 2008, 11:18

I'm luvin it!!
Tanveer, good review and quite on the mark, i would say.

Would your travels include usually just the two of you, or would it involve a group of people? If the former, the Devil would be your ally, and if its the latter, maybe the KING (?!) should be your bet.

theMAG · 16th June 2008, 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samurai

Tanveer, here is a litmus test. If Safari EX 2.2 4x4 and Scorpio mHawk 4x4 are identically priced, what would you choose?

I were to answer that question, I'd currently choose the mHawk for the single reason that buying the current Safari - which is at the end of its model life, doesnt make practical sense, atleast not to me.

ipkonfig · 16th June 2008, 11:34

More confusion again. I was inclined to booking a VTT, but this thread is making me re-think my decision ... :(

BTW thanks tsk1979 for the interesting review...

musicmanaman · 16th June 2008, 11:50

Very nice comparion there. In my view the Scorpio is the vechile I'd choose as I feel it's much better put together and the engine is simply fantastic. Yes, interior space is more in the Safari, but Scropio is not too bad either and when it comes to reliablity, I'll take a MAHINDRAanyday over a TATA.

By the way my dad had the following when I was a teenager.
TATA SERRIA
TATA ESTATE
MAHINDRA ARMADA
MAHINRA MM 540

I had most fun in the MM 540 for some reason.

16th June 2008, 10:10	#16
Magma BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 361 Thanked: 2 Times	Hmmm.. The Devil wins.?i Guess hes not all that bad.
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16th June 2008, 10:14	#17
shankar.balan BANNED Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,368 Thanked: 23,160 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/2 (8)	Well done! A humourous and slightly back handed review TSK! But a fair one in most ways and a little subjective in some others - no need to mention which ones though because theres no need to have an argument again! Cheers and I do hope you decide on what you are going to enjoy driving for the medium term! Best of luck!
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16th June 2008, 10:23	#18
HappyWheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,106 Thanked: 537 Times	A very honest review, that too coming from a person who is known (and openly acknowledged) inclination to the Safari. Would love to see the final outcome!
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16th June 2008, 10:42	#19
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,832 Thanked: 45,638 Times View My Garage	Tanveer, here is a litmus test. If Safari EX 2.2 4x4 and Scorpio mHawk 4x4 are identically priced, what would you choose?
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16th June 2008, 10:43	#20
PatienceWins Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,416 Thanked: 809 Times View My Garage	Good write up Tanveer!! We have a Scorpio 2.6 CRDe in family. I am 6 2 tall and I am not happy with the space in the front, the ride at the back is very bumpy and the handling is bad. The car is powerful and feels like a Sedan in city with good low end torque. It is definitely value for money in that price range. I need to TD a 2.2 to see if Mahindra has rectified the handling and comfort at back seat.
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16th June 2008, 10:44	#21
thalavoy BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 406 Thanked: 77 Times View My Garage	Enjoyed every minute of the review. When deciding my next car (have been lusting after some good affordable SUVs) I will have Scorpio at the top of my list. Hopefully the next gen will have decent cabin space.
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16th June 2008, 10:46	#22
Zappo Team-BHP Support Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 5,922 Thanked: 2,699 Times	I rely on your views much more in this case than scores of others. So when you say Scorp has it one up on the Safari I believe you. And thats worrysome as you said. Till date I have had this idea (in a semi solid state of fructification) that maybe my next car will be a Safari. You have now sown a seed of doubt in my mind. By the way, did you take the car beyond 80? If so was it ok to handle? Many people seem to suggest beyond 80 Scorp is a rocky boat, particularly when thrown around. I wanted to know your views on that. Also, with such a difference in engine characteristics I guess you have put to rest "the mother of all conspiracies" theory of the Tata and M&M having secretly together bought an engine off the shelf and used it in both their respective vehicles. Hmmm...
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16th June 2008, 10:57	#23
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,867 Thanked: 16,023 Times View My Garage	@tsk, 3rd row in the Scorp is & will be so, unless they change lot of things. Ultimately, a vehicle is more than the engine. Safari is still ahead in area os Space, styling & comfort.
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16th June 2008, 10:58	#24
SumitBahl BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 976 Thanked: 230 Times View My Garage	Excellent write-up. I have the 1st gen scorpio 2.6 Engine is great, pickup is amazing. Cabin space and comfort (leg room and inclination of back seat) is not good. I have heard that they have made improvements in the new models. My scorpio has 1.5 lac KMs on ODO. No major repairs so far, just the normal service. There is no doubt that safari is far ahead in terms of looks and styling. Also the cabin space, but it does not have that rev.
	() Thanks

16th June 2008, 11:11	#25
suman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 4,589 Thanked: 279 Times View My Garage	Tanveer, loved the write-up, I think the devil has bitten you & you should go for it. But is 4x4 available even on order on the Mhawk?
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16th June 2008, 11:15	#26
SRShrikanth BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: B'bay/Stockholm Posts: 255 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	Tanveer, Thank you for a very selfless review. Very well-written emotional feature. Am sure there are quite a few of us - sedan & hatchback owners - for whom the Safari - is truly the zenith of an Indian 4X4 experience. Add to it, the image factor etc. I have personally Td'ed ( twice ) & driven around in friend's Safari 2.2 VTT's & the newer Scorp-Hawks and come back feeling pretty much " Cat-on-the-wall" kinds. Heart says - Safari ( for it's pure elegance as a 4X4 should be, something very personal) and the little devil in the mind says, the scorp engine is swell buddy, go for it.!!! So much so, that last month i ended up booking a VTT 2.2 and then a week later called them to transfer the same to my cousin who needed the vehicle before me. And the quandary starts all over again for me. Your decision process only help me fix a few more holes in this process. Thank you, actually. Last edited by SRShrikanth : 16th June 2008 at 11:20.
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16th June 2008, 11:18	#27
benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,969 Thanked: 13,235 Times View My Garage	I'm luvin it!! Tanveer, good review and quite on the mark, i would say. Would your travels include usually just the two of you, or would it involve a group of people? If the former, the Devil would be your ally, and if its the latter, maybe the KING (?!) should be your bet.
	() Thanks

16th June 2008, 11:34	#29
ipkonfig BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 32 Thanked: 0 Times	More confusion again. I was inclined to booking a VTT, but this thread is making me re-think my decision ... :( BTW thanks tsk1979 for the interesting review...
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16th June 2008, 11:50	#30
musicmanaman BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: kolkata Posts: 927 Thanked: 25 Times	Very nice comparion there. In my view the Scorpio is the vechile I'd choose as I feel it's much better put together and the engine is simply fantastic. Yes, interior space is more in the Safari, but Scropio is not too bad either and when it comes to reliablity, I'll take a MAHINDRAanyday over a TATA. By the way my dad had the following when I was a teenager. TATA SERRIA TATA ESTATE MAHINDRA ARMADA MAHINRA MM 540 I had most fun in the MM 540 for some reason.
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