Ford Ikon Tdci - Now with Carputer

bullboy · 27th January 2010, 22:03

@Dieseled , I used to keep 32 in front and 30 at rear .But the ride was more harsher .so settled on 30 for both. In bill they mentioned as ' element assy air cleaner' . I thought this is air filter.

recshenoy · 3rd March 2010, 14:08

Guys,

one quick query.

Is TDCI steering a HPS or a EPS?

trrk · 3rd March 2010, 16:20

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by recshenoy

Is TDCI steering a HPS or a EPS?

Hydraulic it is!

benbsb29 · 3rd March 2010, 16:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by recshenoy

Guys,

one quick query.

Is TDCI steering a HPS or a EPS?

All Fords sold in India come with Hydraulic power steering.

bullboy · 11th July 2010, 10:21

My car due for the 1.5 yr/30k service by end of this month.But it has done less than 20k kms.The scheduled 1.5yr/30k service insists on changing diesel filter and oil change. Do i need to change it or should i wait for 30k kms to complete?
Also the scheduled 20k service was done at 14.6k kms.

condor · 11th July 2010, 10:39

Oil needs to be changed every 6 months or 10000km, which ever earlier. When changing oil, it is best to change the oil filter also. That is also the practice. Diesel filter itself you can wait for the change.

bullboy · 30th July 2010, 21:02

The routine service according to manual was done today -30k/1.5yrs.

Kms covered : 19166

Problems addressed
1) Small rattling noise from rear.
2) Difficulty in engaging reverse gear
3) Fuel Filler rubber hose leak.

Pending
1) Wheel alignment check and balancing

Invoice is as below
Parts
-------
Wash fluid pouch - 51.62
Fuel Filter - 896.91
Oil filter - 333.38
Bulb(stop) - 44.49
Engine oil - 732.15 (3.8L)
Total - 2058.55

Labour and service
------------------
Service 30k - 784.00
Brake cleaning Front - 147.00
Brake cleaning Rear - 294.00
Clutch Bleeding - 49.00
Misc Charges - 90.00
Total -1364.00

Grand total 3823.00

condor · 30th July 2010, 21:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullboy

Labour and service
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Brake cleaning Front - 147.00
Brake cleaning Rear - 294.00

@Bullboy, invoice is mostly on expected lines. But what are these two items ? Why was it required ?

bullboy · 30th July 2010, 23:10

As part of 30k service they will clean the brake pads .
These charges are for removal and installation of brakes.

condor · 31st July 2010, 08:15

Next time, pls try to negotiate with them that the car has not done 30k, so not to do the item. That task can be done when the car actually does 30k. You will need to study the schedule before you go there, so can tell them what tasks you want to postpone.

bullboy · 31st July 2010, 23:15

I did tell them since the car has not done 30k .But the SA was telling like either 30k or 1.5 which ever is earlier and if i dont want to do it they will not. Thinking of warranty stuff and all i told him to proceed .

condor · 1st August 2010, 08:32

That would the be the standard response. The table mentioned in the owner's manual contains an assumed running over a certain period of time. For oils etc, I would agree. For others, it's a case to case basis.

Take the example of spark plugs in a car. If the service schedule says replace plugs at 40k / 2years, I dont think you need to replace the plugs at 2 years itself, if you have run only 20k. But yes, if you have run 40k in 1.5 years (before the 2 year period), then definitely replace the plugs.

bullboy · 3rd August 2010, 11:02

You are correct Condor.But what these guys will do is will put a note on the service history that these things are not done at the schedule service and later on if we claim for some warranty stuff these guys will slay blah blah .So i thought let it got till 2yr service and after will restict only to necessary item.
Mods ,Thanks for updating the title.

condor · 3rd August 2010, 12:13

Try it once. If there is a remark, go back in a week's time and get that also done

Never have faced that situation where they put a note in the service book. Though I dont know if there is an entry in the company's records. My SA's too have never mentioned this, so I will assume that no such thing is done.

bullboy · 6th August 2010, 18:09

No condor its not in the service book. Its in their own electronic records they will put in as observations . i have not seen it though.This was once mentioned to me when i added megasonic.

27th January 2010, 22:03	#46
bullboy BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 608 Thanked: 89 Times	@Dieseled , I used to keep 32 in front and 30 at rear .But the ride was more harsher .so settled on 30 for both. In bill they mentioned as ' element assy air cleaner' . I thought this is air filter. Last edited by bullboy : 27th January 2010 at 22:04.
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3rd March 2010, 14:08	#47
recshenoy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mangalore / Bangalore Posts: 1,128 Thanked: 254 Times	Guys, one quick query. Is TDCI steering a HPS or a EPS?
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11th July 2010, 10:21	#50
bullboy BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 608 Thanked: 89 Times	My car due for the 1.5 yr/30k service by end of this month.But it has done less than 20k kms.The scheduled 1.5yr/30k service insists on changing diesel filter and oil change. Do i need to change it or should i wait for 30k kms to complete? Also the scheduled 20k service was done at 14.6k kms.
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11th July 2010, 10:39	#51
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,864 Thanked: 16,014 Times View My Garage	Oil needs to be changed every 6 months or 10000km, which ever earlier. When changing oil, it is best to change the oil filter also. That is also the practice. Diesel filter itself you can wait for the change.
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30th July 2010, 21:02	#52
bullboy BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 608 Thanked: 89 Times	Fourth service done The routine service according to manual was done today -30k/1.5yrs. Kms covered : 19166 Problems addressed 1) Small rattling noise from rear. 2) Difficulty in engaging reverse gear 3) Fuel Filler rubber hose leak. Pending 1) Wheel alignment check and balancing Invoice is as below Parts ------- Wash fluid pouch - 51.62 Fuel Filter - 896.91 Oil filter - 333.38 Bulb(stop) - 44.49 Engine oil - 732.15 (3.8L) Total - 2058.55 Labour and service ------------------ Service 30k - 784.00 Brake cleaning Front - 147.00 Brake cleaning Rear - 294.00 Clutch Bleeding - 49.00 Misc Charges - 90.00 Total -1364.00 Grand total 3823.00
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30th July 2010, 23:10	#54
bullboy BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 608 Thanked: 89 Times	As part of 30k service they will clean the brake pads . These charges are for removal and installation of brakes.
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31st July 2010, 08:15	#55
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,864 Thanked: 16,014 Times View My Garage	Next time, pls try to negotiate with them that the car has not done 30k, so not to do the item. That task can be done when the car actually does 30k. You will need to study the schedule before you go there, so can tell them what tasks you want to postpone.
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31st July 2010, 23:15	#56
bullboy BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 608 Thanked: 89 Times	I did tell them since the car has not done 30k .But the SA was telling like either 30k or 1.5 which ever is earlier and if i dont want to do it they will not. Thinking of warranty stuff and all i told him to proceed .
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1st August 2010, 08:32	#57
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,864 Thanked: 16,014 Times View My Garage	That would the be the standard response. The table mentioned in the owner's manual contains an assumed running over a certain period of time. For oils etc, I would agree. For others, it's a case to case basis. Take the example of spark plugs in a car. If the service schedule says replace plugs at 40k / 2years, I dont think you need to replace the plugs at 2 years itself, if you have run only 20k. But yes, if you have run 40k in 1.5 years (before the 2 year period), then definitely replace the plugs.
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3rd August 2010, 11:02	#58
bullboy BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 608 Thanked: 89 Times	You are correct Condor.But what these guys will do is will put a note on the service history that these things are not done at the schedule service and later on if we claim for some warranty stuff these guys will slay blah blah .So i thought let it got till 2yr service and after will restict only to necessary item. Mods ,Thanks for updating the title.
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3rd August 2010, 12:13	#59
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,864 Thanked: 16,014 Times View My Garage	Try it once. If there is a remark, go back in a week's time and get that also done Never have faced that situation where they put a note in the service book. Though I dont know if there is an entry in the company's records. My SA's too have never mentioned this, so I will assume that no such thing is done.
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6th August 2010, 18:09	#60
bullboy BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 608 Thanked: 89 Times	No condor its not in the service book. Its in their own electronic records they will put in as observations . i have not seen it though.This was once mentioned to me when i added megasonic.
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