[oxyzen]

Originally Posted by Mevtec

Hi all,
Recently we have noticed high oil consumption.The car was brought to Kerala from Bangalore last month.About 2000 ml oil was consumed in the last 2500 km! We have noticed that the oil consumption is high when the car is taken for long trips.

The car was checked at the MASS (Indus Muvattupuzha).They couldn't find any major engine problem or oil leak.Planning to bring the car to Trivandrum and get it checked.I know a senior engineer who works for Maruti.Will update on the matter.

There are 3 causes for high oil consumption.
1. Worn out piston rings
2. Leakage from valve seat
3. Head gasket leakage. (In some cars only where there is oil circuit through the head gasket from block to head)

It is a serious issue. I suggest you take it strongly with Marurti Suzuki.

[Habanero City]

Mevtec, sorry to know that the trvails of DDIS is far from over.
I would suggest that the diagnosis and solutions if any by the engine specialist at TVM should be last option.
If you are not satisfied with this analysis, please consider disposing the car and treat the whole episode as a bad dream.
It is not worth living your life with this kind of product and service especially when lives are at stake while using the car.

[csateesh]

Originally Posted by Jaggu

For reference last oil change was more than 4000kms and had done about 700 kms of highway driving, quite spirited at it. Oil was just below full mark after the oil change.
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Jaggu - Now that I drive a swift D I have a very important query

I check the oil levels religiously. My observation is that the oil level in the dip stick is always less than max. but slightly above the mid point.

Does MASS short change us by charging for 3.1 and fill 2.5 ? Will check the dip stick post service and keep you folks posted

Has anyone checked the dip stick right after service ?

[Jaggu]

Originally Posted by csateesh

Jaggu - Now that I drive a swift D I have a very important query
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Has anyone checked the dip stick right after service ?

This is normal if i remember since the engine can actually can take more oil. 3.1 is the prescribed quantity to avoid any oil seepage issue into the turbo. As long as the dipstick shows close to half mark (at cold), its ok.

[csateesh]

Originally Posted by Jaggu

This is normal if i remember since the engine can actually can take more oil. 3.1 is the prescribed quantity to avoid any oil seepage issue into the turbo. As long as the dipstick shows close to half mark (at cold), its ok.

Thanks Jaggu - So MASS does charge you for 3.1 and short change all swift owners by filling less than 3.1. Next time I am carrying my own oil which is the Delvac 1 (3x1ltr) and see how it works

[babhishek]

Originally Posted by csateesh

Thanks Jaggu - So MASS does charge you for 3.1 and short change all swift owners by filling less than 3.1. Next time I am carrying my own oil which is the Delvac 1 (3x1ltr) and see how it works

No, what Jaggu said is the engine can take more oil ( more than 3.1ltr ); however Maruti fills 3.1ltr as per prescribed norms.
That, to me, is very different to your underlined conclusion.

[csateesh]

Originally Posted by babhishek

No, what Jaggu said is the engine can take more oil ( more than 3.1ltr ); however Maruti fills 3.1ltr as per prescribed norms.
That, to me, is very different to your underlined conclusion.

@babhishek - Filling just upto the top mark (or F) is fine. Folks at Hyundai A.S.S do that do as I check the dip stick religiously. MASS could be following the TSB but why fill it only till mid point ?

The only way we can reconcile on this one is to have BHPians with the MJD heart post a pic of the dip stick post service as the MJD heart needs 3.2 lts too

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...ml#post3075595

Shall request CD to help us with a pic

Cheers

[amit1234singla]

Originally Posted by csateesh

Jaggu - Now that I drive a swift D I have a very important query

I check the oil levels religiously. My observation is that the oil level in the dip stick is always less than max. but slightly above the mid point.

Does MASS short change us by charging for 3.1 and fill 2.5 ? Will check the dip stick post service and keep you folks posted

Has anyone checked the dip stick right after service ?

My experience based on Tata Manza Diesel, same 1.3 MJD engine. Recommended engine oil quantity is 3.2L and once I fully drain the old oil, fill 3.2L fresh oil, the oil level on dipstick is seen at full mark. Never more or less than that. Unfortunately there is no F or M mark on the dipstick (I think it's same in Swift as well), but there is a clearly marked range of about 1" inch long and level is seen at upper end of the range but not beyond that.

And I think this is how it is in most cars. Once old oil is fully drained, from the drain plug (w/o opening sump or engine), and filled with recommended oil quantity, the level on dipstick should be seen at full (and not over or more than few mm under).

[gurnoor_singh]

Hi. My friend owns Swift 2012 Vdi. It's been six years now, the car hasn't reported any issues so far. The ODO reading is 82500 Km. After the warranty period was over i.e. 40000 Km, he only trusted his skills of servicing rather than to go to a MASS and get ripped off for a few bucks. He always uses MGP parts for servicing from retail outlets.

Just now he has observed increased oil consumption since the last 80,000km service interval. Although he has increased the interval of oil change (MGP, 5W-40) to every 15,000 Km's (Last oil change was done at about 74,000-75,000 km)

In Punjab, the temperatures were in between 5-degree C to 10-degree C. In morning whenever he starts the car she emits a lot of white smoke for first 1-2 minutes but post that everything is normal. After one week he checked the oil level (at 82,000 km) it was somewhat below the top mark line. He didn't refill it but decided to observe closely.

On Sunday he decided to open the intercooler as it was cleaned last time at 41234 Km's. And yes there was oil in the intercooler, about 84 ml of oil. Cleaned it thoroughly with IPA (Isopropyl Alcohol) and gave a test run of about 10 km's.

Next morning (12-degree celcius) he started the car hoping to get rid of white smoke but again there was white smoke, after 1-2 minutes of warm-up everything was normal.

Parameters of Vehicle:

FE:- 21-23 kmpl (highway)
18-20 kmpl (city)
Turbo:- Excellent condition
Any oil leak:- NO
Overheating:- NO
Any DTC, warning light etc.:- NO

His main concern is why there is white smoke only on startup but not after that?
Are the piston rings worn out? Does the car need any compression test?
Mr. Kulvinder Sir, please could you analyze anything or does he need to carry out more observations?