Help::Alloys on zen, performance and mileage change?

5u3zEr0 · 10th June 2006, 17:55

Anything more than 165 on a Zen is a definite no unless you are ready to compromise on a lot of things.

165/60 r13 would be ideal on 5J alloy rims.

My ex-zen had 165/65 r13 on traxx 13" x 5j rims which were bigger tyres i.e. the OD was bigger than the stock but it looked swell because it filled up the wheel wells completely. If you do this you will have a speedometer error and you will need to bend the inside of the wheel arches.

kpzen · 12th June 2006, 11:04

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Originally Posted by sushrutha

A doubt, Does 5.5j alloys with 145/70/R13 cause any speedo error ?

Alloys dont cause the speedo error its the tyre size that does....

Size of the alloys or rims can affect the handling, ride quality n also fittment like 5.5J alloys with 165/60-13 in a zen will touch while taking a full turn

KP

s0uljah · 9th July 2006, 14:16

Yesterday we took out my friends zen to be fitted with tyres and alloys.

He selected the Bridgestone Turanza 165/60/r13 and im guessing 5j alloys.
He was in a great hurry to finish the work and get back to mysore so the dealer had suggested that he go for 175 of even 185 as he had those readily available but I convinced him that anything mor ethan 165 would cause a lot of problems so finally ordered 165.

I just got a call from my friend saying the sides of the front tyres are touching the arches and I suggested her can beat the inside panels but he is weary of doing htis as he just got the entire car repainted last week.

He has requested me to find out what other options he has (shocks/raising body etc) and the approximate costs of such a mod and pros/cons.

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Originally Posted by speedsatya

but even for 165/60r13 ..to be on teh safer side you might have to bend the sheet metal inside the wheel arch so that it doesnt cut the tire when the car is fully loaded...any garage can bend this ...

This is what I told him to go in for and looks like my guess was a good one! Also he was carrying the old tyres in the car with rims as well as his parents so the load was probably affecting the tyre as well.

dodge · 18th December 2006, 23:36

i decided to buy neo bouncer black machined 13 inch for my 2004 zen lxi cool silver and i love wider tyres now its running with bridgestone potenza 165.60.12. am planin to upgrade it to 175+ with the alloy wheels will it be good

jas_mirage · 19th December 2006, 14:31

i hav my zen runnin on 195/45 13' tyres.. yoko i believe.. had to raise my back suspension a bit though.. actually wanna get the wheel arches flared a bit..

humyum · 27th August 2008, 01:18

A little doubt.Will 155/70/R13s be an ok upsize for a zen ? I currently have 145/80/R12s and want to go the 13 inch and 155 way.
Would 155/70/R13 touch the front insides or scrape the rear insides at full load?

gopa99 · 6th June 2009, 21:05

Has anybody tried out the 12" tyres of Bridgestone Potenza g3? It works as 165 60 R12.
My dealer says there will be a marginal reduction in profile height, but i have height spacers on my ZEN anyway!!

kpzen · 7th June 2009, 10:16

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Originally Posted by gopa99

Has anybody tried out the 12" tyres of Bridgestone Potenza g3? It works as 165 60 R12.
My dealer says there will be a marginal reduction in profile height, but i have height spacers on my ZEN anyway!!

165/60-12 is too small for a Zen which already has low GC.

In 12" its better to stick with stock size.

rohan_fonseca · 8th June 2009, 02:24

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Originally Posted by gopa99

Has anybody tried out the 12" tyres of Bridgestone Potenza g3? It works as 165 60 R12.
My dealer says there will be a marginal reduction in profile height, but i have height spacers on my ZEN anyway!!

Overall wheel diameter would decrease. Speedo error, increase in low end grunt, lower top speed in-gear, improvement in handling and braking would be the after effects. Ofcourse lower ground clearance will have to be factored in. Although i'm using that profile wouldn't reccommend it as it is a very user specific choice.

gopa99 · 8th June 2009, 22:45

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Originally Posted by rohan_fonseca

Overall wheel diameter would decrease. Speedo error, increase in low end grunt, lower top speed in-gear, improvement in handling and braking would be the after effects. Ofcourse lower ground clearance will have to be factored in. Although i'm using that profile wouldn't reccommend it as it is a very user specific choice.

So do u too run with spacers? Does it trouble you when with 4 pax?

gopa99 · 8th June 2009, 23:04

i wanna add hub spacers on my zen, going for wider tyres. Can anybody help me with sources for them in bangalore?

kpzen · 9th June 2009, 09:27

Gopa

Why do u want to add spacers ?

rohan_fonseca · 9th June 2009, 15:21

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Originally Posted by gopa99

So do u too run with spacers? Does it trouble you when with 4 pax?

No spacers. Why do you want spacers? No problems when loaded as wheel circumference is reduced.

gopa99 · 15th June 2009, 18:56

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Originally Posted by rohan_fonseca

No spacers. Why do you want spacers? No problems when loaded as wheel circumference is reduced.

Hi Rohan, I was asking about track extension spacers. I just wanted to add it for better stability while cornering! any contact for that in bangalore?

And in my question to you was about height spacers, above the post! just wondering about the lower GC on 165 60 r 12.....wont it touch base if on humps?? .shall i go for it? or stock ones.......145 80 r 12!

Zenster · 2nd July 2009, 22:53

Hello Experts, I have a Zen LX (old shape) MPFi, no power steering. I upgraded the stock MRF ZVTS 145/80 R12 to Goodyear GP2 same profile since on the MRF rubber was cracking slsightly after 45K+...I am looking to put alloys now and tubeless tyres.

Now i am have read almost every thread there is on Zen Alloys and tyres options. I know most vouch for 165/60 R13 especially Potenza G3 (no.t too many available in this size i guess). Keeping this info i already have (from the various thread) here are my questions:

1. Requirement Number one is cool alloys (i know looks are subjective but anyway). Aura's are out since i dont like them at all. Neo's may be. But i am interested in designs that are different...So what options do i have in bangalore in 12" and 13". Where can i get imported rims or even stallions?

2. I have seen 165/60 R13 Potenza G3 for 2700/tyre and 155/65 R13 XM1+ for 2600/tyre. What other option do i have in terms of better performance brands? I would like great grip, handling, light steering, braking and ride quality all in one with good looking tyres. Even 12" are ok by me..

Please suggest what options are available, keeping in mind that i wouldn't like to put spacers etc if given an option.

I wanna seal the deal this weekend i possible. Please suggest !!!

10th June 2006, 17:55	#46
5u3zEr0 BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Madras Posts: 379 Thanked: 3 Times	Anything more than 165 on a Zen is a definite no unless you are ready to compromise on a lot of things. 165/60 r13 would be ideal on 5J alloy rims. My ex-zen had 165/65 r13 on traxx 13" x 5j rims which were bigger tyres i.e. the OD was bigger than the stock but it looked swell because it filled up the wheel wells completely. If you do this you will have a speedometer error and you will need to bend the inside of the wheel arches.
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18th December 2006, 23:36	#49
dodge BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: kochi Posts: 45 Thanked: 0 Times	i decided to buy neo bouncer black machined 13 inch for my 2004 zen lxi cool silver and i love wider tyres now its running with bridgestone potenza 165.60.12. am planin to upgrade it to 175+ with the alloy wheels will it be good
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19th December 2006, 14:31	#50
jas_mirage BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: COK, DXB, DOH Posts: 59 Thanked: 21 Times	i hav my zen runnin on 195/45 13' tyres.. yoko i believe.. had to raise my back suspension a bit though.. actually wanna get the wheel arches flared a bit..
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27th August 2008, 01:18	#51
humyum Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,752 Thanked: 5,428 Times	A little doubt.Will 155/70/R13s be an ok upsize for a zen ? I currently have 145/80/R12s and want to go the 13 inch and 155 way. Would 155/70/R13 touch the front insides or scrape the rear insides at full load?
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6th June 2009, 21:05	#52
gopa99 BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bangalore,Kochi Posts: 334 Thanked: 203 Times View My Garage	Has anybody tried out the 12" tyres of Bridgestone Potenza g3? It works as 165 60 R12. My dealer says there will be a marginal reduction in profile height, but i have height spacers on my ZEN anyway!!
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8th June 2009, 23:04	#56
gopa99 BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bangalore,Kochi Posts: 334 Thanked: 203 Times View My Garage	i wanna add hub spacers on my zen, going for wider tyres. Can anybody help me with sources for them in bangalore?
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9th June 2009, 09:27	#57
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Gopa Why do u want to add spacers ?
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2nd July 2009, 22:53	#60
Zenster BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sydney Posts: 336 Thanked: 100 Times View My Garage	New Tyres and Alloys... Hello Experts, I have a Zen LX (old shape) MPFi, no power steering. I upgraded the stock MRF ZVTS 145/80 R12 to Goodyear GP2 same profile since on the MRF rubber was cracking slsightly after 45K+...I am looking to put alloys now and tubeless tyres. Now i am have read almost every thread there is on Zen Alloys and tyres options. I know most vouch for 165/60 R13 especially Potenza G3 (no.t too many available in this size i guess). Keeping this info i already have (from the various thread) here are my questions: 1. Requirement Number one is cool alloys (i know looks are subjective but anyway). Aura's are out since i dont like them at all. Neo's may be. But i am interested in designs that are different...So what options do i have in bangalore in 12" and 13". Where can i get imported rims or even stallions? 2. I have seen 165/60 R13 Potenza G3 for 2700/tyre and 155/65 R13 XM1+ for 2600/tyre. What other option do i have in terms of better performance brands? I would like great grip, handling, light steering, braking and ride quality all in one with good looking tyres. Even 12" are ok by me.. Please suggest what options are available, keeping in mind that i wouldn't like to put spacers etc if given an option. I wanna seal the deal this weekend i possible. Please suggest !!!
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