Best set of tyres?

anarchist · 28th September 2006, 10:04

I have Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD2 205/60/R15 on my SWIFT. The grip is amazin and wet weather is no problem at all. Breaking is improved tremendously does bring in confidence while you drive. Its Goodyear for me.

dsinz · 28th September 2006, 10:46

My car runs on Good Year GPS 2. So far no problems. However I voted for Bridgestone. Heard a lot from friends and dealers that Bridgestone is good.

esteem_lover · 28th September 2006, 12:55

super silent & grippy Michelins for me.

rchimni · 28th September 2006, 13:31

Michelin Energy XM 1 , 185/65 R14 for me on my Vtec ...silent , superb handling and ride comfort..

iraghava · 28th September 2006, 13:31

In my experience :

Bridgestone S322 - OK tyres but nothing exceptional.

Goodyear Eagle F1 GS D2 - Horrid tyres! Noisy, poor ride comfort, Too soft sidewalls resulting in bulges in sidewalls of 3 tyres, decent grip though.

Michelin Energy XM1 - Amazing smoothness, great ride comfort, silent & very tough tyres. Very happy with them, would definitely recommend to anyone looking for a good, comfortable tyre.

rks · 28th September 2006, 13:58

The best set of tyres would strongly depend on what vehicle you are driving and the state of the roads. For my vehicle - Santro, 1-lit engine -- it is not worth going in for performance tyres even under the best of road conditions. And the roads in Pune and Mumbai and the Pune-Mumbai highways are all awful during the monsoon season. There is also very heavy rain in monsoon season while the summer sees fairly high temperatures.

Given all this, for me the all-season tyres are the best option and I vote for Bridgestone S322, especially the tubeless one, which gives *much* better grip than the tubed version and makes virtually no noise while cornering. The S322 should have a longer life as compared to the softer performance tyres and would be safer in my terrain, with huge potholes and sharp stones (less chances of the tyre puncturing or tearing).

Buffetfan · 28th September 2006, 14:44

My 2 cents

Bridgestones (all the S~ variety..used the one mn my uno for 48k kms...finally threw them away as they refused to wear out)...best for Taxi usage...can go upto 70k kms if balancing is done regularly.. on the other hand if you are looking for low noise or ride comfort or grip..you will not find them there...had these on my Uno as well as the Baleno and the Santro initially (only for a day)

Michelin MXTE (155/80 R13 used for 25k in my Uno)...good when new...start making a helllot of noise when they have done 20K or so... the grip also goes to dogs.. ride comfort is better than on Bridgestones

Goodyear (Eagle NCT 5 and Eagle GA+) very similar tread designes...come as OEM (NCT 5) on a variety of hi end cars including Mercs and Rolls Royce . I have the NCT 5 (185/65 R 14) on my Baleno and the Eagle GA + (165/65 R13) on my Santro. In my Baleno the tyres have done 22k kms and still going strong..of late a little road noise has started filtering through on rough roades...but still super silent on regular roades..... I believe they might last another 20 k kms for sure... As for the Santro..they tyres have done only 2.5k and are very smooth with good grip.

I agree that they are neither directional nor asymmetric...which is what most of the tyre enthusiasts like (witout bothering for anything else)...but the grip is pretty good...

Sometime ago drove another friends Baleno fitted with 195/60R14 Goodyear F1 and while I could not get the chance to test grip ..they were definitely harsher in ride compared to the NCT5s...

I would choose Goodyear tyres for ride comfort.....of couse if it is longevity that you are after..you should buy bridgestones...

dilipkumar7278 · 1st October 2006, 12:11

I have fitted Goodyear eagle ventura 195/65R14 on my lancer yesterday..
Will definitely post my experiences with this soon.My Mrf 185/60R14's lasted for 70000kms and still had couple of thousands in them.But the ride quality suffered and had two shocks changed in the last sixmonths.Knowing the pathetic condition of roads in kerala its no big surprise.

wolfinstein · 1st October 2006, 12:20

Bridgestone Potenza Series. OEM on my lancer and now replaced with Potenza G3 Tubeless...! All weather performance, good grip and stability.

Shan2nu · 1st October 2006, 12:35

My vote goes for all the Bridgestone Potenza series. I've seen what the S322s were like and then moving on to the Potenza was a completely diff experience.

Some might remember a certain CRX engined TC Zen that was talked about some time ago. That car was shod with 165 Potenza GIIIs and had close to 190. But the grip these Potenzas provided amazed me.

I expected the tyres to get smoked in the first 3 gears but nothing of that sort happened. Except for the launch, they were pretty much griping all the way.

And tyre wear is something to boast about. Dealer told me it wouls last a max of 30K kms. I've done almost 15k kms on them and the way they're wearing out, 40K+ kms seems far too easy.

Shan2nu

n_aditya · 3rd October 2006, 17:07

ok it's time for my baby to get a tire change...

the esteem stock tires are 175/70 R13 tube type... plannin for tubeless now.

I am plannin to upsize the tires to 185 or 195....

i have 2 questions...

1. which brand?

my dad says it is difficult to get a replacement / warranty on imported brands like michelin etc and wants me to go for MRF...

i have read all the pages in this thread and i have understood that the best according to the owners are :

1. Yoko's
2. Bridgestone Potenza GIII- complaints of tire bulging
3. Michelin
4. GoodYear - life and traction not too good according to some....

BTW the above 4 are in random order and not in any rating of sorts.

It would be helpful if someone can tell me which tire is the best in terms of :

1. Life - expect it to last at least 40,000 kms +
2. traction - for speeds upto 180 - 190 kmph
3. warranty
4. price

and of course along with the pro's please mention the cons also.

Question 2 is regarding upsize.. and i will post it if i have any queries after reading related threads...

thanks all.

Vid6639 · 3rd October 2006, 17:18

are you looking for a tyre which is more confortable or one which with better outright grip.
i tried the bridgestone potenza G-III and the new bridgestone turanza ER-60 on my lancer. i was very happy with the turanza ER-60 as they were more comfy and quiet compared to the G-III which offered better grip.
The turanza ER-60 is made in india whereas the G-III is importe from japan.
both the tyres carry a 4yr warranty.
i would suggest the turanza. it also has a rubber strip to protect the rim and to protect the sidewall from getting cut.

Buffetfan · 4th October 2006, 03:05

Another Option similar to Turanza in Goodyear is the Goodyear Eagle NCT 5. You can try them if they come in sizes like 185/65R13 ...alternatively you can try 185/60 R14 but for that you will need 14" rims...

I have used the NCT5 on my baleno (185/65R14) for about 22k kms tillnow..and rate them better than the Bridgestones S248 or Michelin MXTE I used earlier...
they are made in india
In different sizes..they come as a OE fitment on Mercs, Rolls Royce,. Octavia etc..that basically means that the quality/ride/grip/noise is upto some standard at least...(since these car manufacturers would run extensive tests before zeroing down)..if nothing else
Ride is good and silent
I guess they will last 40k kms at least... I have alredy done 22k kms on them

esteem_lover · 4th October 2006, 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by n_aditya

ok it's time for my baby to get a tire change...

the esteem stock tires are 175/70 R13 tube type... plannin for tubeless now.

I am plannin to upsize the tires to 185 or 195....

i have 2 questions...

1. which brand?

my dad says it is difficult to get a replacement / warranty on imported brands like michelin etc and wants me to go for MRF...

i have read all the pages in this thread and i have understood that the best according to the owners are :

1. Yoko's
2. Bridgestone Potenza GIII- complaints of tire bulging
3. Michelin
4. GoodYear - life and traction not too good according to some....

BTW the above 4 are in random order and not in any rating of sorts.

It would be helpful if someone can tell me which tire is the best in terms of :

1. Life - expect it to last at least 40,000 kms +
2. traction - for speeds upto 180 - 190 kmph
3. warranty
4. price

and of course along with the pro's please mention the cons also.

Question 2 is regarding upsize.. and i will post it if i have any queries after reading related threads...

thanks all.

naditya,
nothing beats the michelins for the esteem. i just changed my tyres from MRF to michelin. do not worry about warranty & replacements. it is all there for all these tyres & not just for MRF. i changed from MRF for the last 10 years to Michelin now & beleive me, its a whole new world. these are silent & very grippy tyres. now i can listen to a lot more rattling in my car than before. lol.

regarding the size, 175/70/13 is ideal & best looking for the esteem unless you are going for 14" rims, then 195/55/14 would be good.

nitrous · 4th October 2006, 13:34

Naditya has 13" alloys that came with the 'limited edition' car.
I've suggested 185/65/R13 or 195/60/R13.
And most of all,he's got a sober budget.
Yoko ES100s dont come in 13" size.
So,wat do u guys suggest?

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28th September 2006, 10:04	#136
anarchist BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago / Namma Bengaluru Posts: 372 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	I have Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD2 205/60/R15 on my SWIFT. The grip is amazin and wet weather is no problem at all. Breaking is improved tremendously does bring in confidence while you drive. Its Goodyear for me.
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28th September 2006, 10:46	#137
dsinz BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 113 Thanked: 20 Times	My car runs on Good Year GPS 2. So far no problems. However I voted for Bridgestone. Heard a lot from friends and dealers that Bridgestone is good.
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28th September 2006, 12:55	#138
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	super silent & grippy Michelins for me.
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28th September 2006, 13:31	#139
rchimni BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Manila Posts: 137 Thanked: Once View My Garage	Michelin Energy XM 1 , 185/65 R14 for me on my Vtec ...silent , superb handling and ride comfort..
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28th September 2006, 13:31	#140
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	In my experience : Bridgestone S322 - OK tyres but nothing exceptional. Goodyear Eagle F1 GS D2 - Horrid tyres! Noisy, poor ride comfort, Too soft sidewalls resulting in bulges in sidewalls of 3 tyres, decent grip though. Michelin Energy XM1 - Amazing smoothness, great ride comfort, silent & very tough tyres. Very happy with them, would definitely recommend to anyone looking for a good, comfortable tyre.
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28th September 2006, 13:58	#141
rks BANNED Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: ?? Posts: 1,238 Thanked: 17 Times	The best set of tyres would strongly depend on what vehicle you are driving and the state of the roads. For my vehicle - Santro, 1-lit engine -- it is not worth going in for performance tyres even under the best of road conditions. And the roads in Pune and Mumbai and the Pune-Mumbai highways are all awful during the monsoon season. There is also very heavy rain in monsoon season while the summer sees fairly high temperatures. Given all this, for me the all-season tyres are the best option and I vote for Bridgestone S322, especially the tubeless one, which gives much better grip than the tubed version and makes virtually no noise while cornering. The S322 should have a longer life as compared to the softer performance tyres and would be safer in my terrain, with huge potholes and sharp stones (less chances of the tyre puncturing or tearing). Last edited by rks : 28th September 2006 at 13:59.
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28th September 2006, 14:44	#142
Buffetfan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,128 Thanked: 195 Times	My 2 cents Bridgestones (all the S~ variety..used the one mn my uno for 48k kms...finally threw them away as they refused to wear out)...best for Taxi usage...can go upto 70k kms if balancing is done regularly.. on the other hand if you are looking for low noise or ride comfort or grip..you will not find them there...had these on my Uno as well as the Baleno and the Santro initially (only for a day) Michelin MXTE (155/80 R13 used for 25k in my Uno)...good when new...start making a helllot of noise when they have done 20K or so... the grip also goes to dogs.. ride comfort is better than on Bridgestones Goodyear (Eagle NCT 5 and Eagle GA+) very similar tread designes...come as OEM (NCT 5) on a variety of hi end cars including Mercs and Rolls Royce . I have the NCT 5 (185/65 R 14) on my Baleno and the Eagle GA + (165/65 R13) on my Santro. In my Baleno the tyres have done 22k kms and still going strong..of late a little road noise has started filtering through on rough roades...but still super silent on regular roades..... I believe they might last another 20 k kms for sure... As for the Santro..they tyres have done only 2.5k and are very smooth with good grip. I agree that they are neither directional nor asymmetric...which is what most of the tyre enthusiasts like (witout bothering for anything else)...but the grip is pretty good... Sometime ago drove another friends Baleno fitted with 195/60R14 Goodyear F1 and while I could not get the chance to test grip ..they were definitely harsher in ride compared to the NCT5s... I would choose Goodyear tyres for ride comfort.....of couse if it is longevity that you are after..you should buy bridgestones...
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1st October 2006, 12:11	#143
dilipkumar7278 BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: COCHIN Posts: 441 Thanked: 109 Times View My Garage	Goodyear Eagle Ventura I have fitted Goodyear eagle ventura 195/65R14 on my lancer yesterday.. Will definitely post my experiences with this soon.My Mrf 185/60R14's lasted for 70000kms and still had couple of thousands in them.But the ride quality suffered and had two shocks changed in the last sixmonths.Knowing the pathetic condition of roads in kerala its no big surprise.
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1st October 2006, 12:20	#144
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 994 Thanked: 20 Times	Bridgestone Potenza Series. OEM on my lancer and now replaced with Potenza G3 Tubeless...! All weather performance, good grip and stability.
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1st October 2006, 12:35	#145
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	My vote goes for all the Bridgestone Potenza series. I've seen what the S322s were like and then moving on to the Potenza was a completely diff experience. Some might remember a certain CRX engined TC Zen that was talked about some time ago. That car was shod with 165 Potenza GIIIs and had close to 190. But the grip these Potenzas provided amazed me. I expected the tyres to get smoked in the first 3 gears but nothing of that sort happened. Except for the launch, they were pretty much griping all the way. And tyre wear is something to boast about. Dealer told me it wouls last a max of 30K kms. I've done almost 15k kms on them and the way they're wearing out, 40K+ kms seems far too easy. Shan2nu
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3rd October 2006, 17:07	#146
n_aditya Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Namma Bengaluru Posts: 5,348 Thanked: 3,684 Times View My Garage	ok it's time for my baby to get a tire change... the esteem stock tires are 175/70 R13 tube type... plannin for tubeless now. I am plannin to upsize the tires to 185 or 195.... i have 2 questions... 1. which brand? my dad says it is difficult to get a replacement / warranty on imported brands like michelin etc and wants me to go for MRF... i have read all the pages in this thread and i have understood that the best according to the owners are : 1. Yoko's 2. Bridgestone Potenza GIII- complaints of tire bulging 3. Michelin 4. GoodYear - life and traction not too good according to some.... BTW the above 4 are in random order and not in any rating of sorts. It would be helpful if someone can tell me which tire is the best in terms of : 1. Life - expect it to last at least 40,000 kms + 2. traction - for speeds upto 180 - 190 kmph 3. warranty 4. price and of course along with the pro's please mention the cons also. Question 2 is regarding upsize.. and i will post it if i have any queries after reading related threads... thanks all.
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3rd October 2006, 17:18	#147
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,483 Times View My Garage	are you looking for a tyre which is more confortable or one which with better outright grip. i tried the bridgestone potenza G-III and the new bridgestone turanza ER-60 on my lancer. i was very happy with the turanza ER-60 as they were more comfy and quiet compared to the G-III which offered better grip. The turanza ER-60 is made in india whereas the G-III is importe from japan. both the tyres carry a 4yr warranty. i would suggest the turanza. it also has a rubber strip to protect the rim and to protect the sidewall from getting cut.
	() Thanks

4th October 2006, 03:05	#148
Buffetfan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,128 Thanked: 195 Times	Another Option similar to Turanza in Goodyear is the Goodyear Eagle NCT 5. You can try them if they come in sizes like 185/65R13 ...alternatively you can try 185/60 R14 but for that you will need 14" rims... I have used the NCT5 on my baleno (185/65R14) for about 22k kms tillnow..and rate them better than the Bridgestones S248 or Michelin MXTE I used earlier... they are made in india In different sizes..they come as a OE fitment on Mercs, Rolls Royce,. Octavia etc..that basically means that the quality/ride/grip/noise is upto some standard at least...(since these car manufacturers would run extensive tests before zeroing down)..if nothing else Ride is good and silent I guess they will last 40k kms at least... I have alredy done 22k kms on them
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4th October 2006, 13:34	#150
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Naditya has 13" alloys that came with the 'limited edition' car. I've suggested 185/65/R13 or 195/60/R13. And most of all,he's got a sober budget. Yoko ES100s dont come in 13" size. So,wat do u guys suggest?
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