Tyre and rim upgrade for the Lancer

junior schumi · 24th June 2007, 16:58

i have 215 40 R17'' on nmy 1999 model city .........n m happy da way they perform.....n look gr8 from every angel
even da milege only dipped by one unit n i feel its a nice combination.
mine is a green city wit 17'' gtreen alloys
keep imagining how they look.

razor4077 · 24th June 2007, 21:01

Why not post a pic? Instead of leaving us imagining?

razor4077 · 25th June 2007, 15:26

I'm getting a quote of close to 5.7k per tyre for Pilot Preceda 205/50/15.
PP 195/60/14 = 3.9k each

First of all, is this a good price for these tyres, and secondly, is it worth it?

iraghava · 25th June 2007, 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by razor4077

I'm getting a quote of close to 5.7k per tyre for Pilot Preceda 205/50/15.
PP 195/60/14 = 3.9k each

First of all, is this a good price for these tyres, and secondly, is it worth it?

The 14" prices are very good considering I paid 4k each for them. Make sure you are getting them with B&W. And IMO they are worth it if you're looking for grip while retaining low road noise.

razor4077 · 25th June 2007, 15:57

What about the 15" ones? 5.7 is a little steep. If I do opt for them, I was thinking of taking 4 of those, and a similar sized stepney (of a lesser variety).

How does the GY Ventura compare? They are readily available and am sure are much cheaper.

razor4077 · 26th June 2007, 14:46

Ok guys... here's an update.
I've more or less made up my mind to go for Michelin Pilot Precedas - 205/50/15. Will cost me a pretty penny, but I hope it'll be worth it. Guy's asking for close to 5.7k, but I hope to bring it down a bit.
Somehow I won't feel happy with 14 inchers... and since I am spending a lot on the car, what the heck

I plan to get 4 of these tyres, and a similar sized cheaper stepney.
Comments?

lancer80 · 26th June 2007, 15:13

15s look so much better than 14s, especially the rims you are going to be getting. 205/50/15 will be surely more comfortable when compared to 195/50/15 but you might feel like the car is slightly draggy.

Does anyone know of a website where I can look for Michelin tyres (types/sizes) that will be available in Mumbai?

razor4077 · 26th June 2007, 15:55

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Originally Posted by lancer80

but you might feel like the car is slightly draggy.

That's where the performance mods come in

kpzen · 26th June 2007, 15:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by razor4077

Ok guys... here's an update.
I've more or less made up my mind to go for Michelin Pilot Precedas - 205/50/15. Will cost me a pretty penny, but I hope it'll be worth it. Guy's asking for close to 5.7k, but I hope to bring it down a bit.
Somehow I won't feel happy with 14 inchers... and since I am spending a lot on the car, what the heck

I plan to get 4 of these tyres, and a similar sized cheaper stepney.
Comments?

Perfect choice, Just try to drag the price of PPs down.

iraghava · 26th June 2007, 19:20

Razor - Forgot to tell you, my guy quoted 5.7k for 205/50 R15 Michelin Pilot Preceda 2, don't buy the PP1 for this price.

Ricky_63 · 26th June 2007, 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by razor4077

Ok guys... here's an update.
I've more or less made up my mind to go for Michelin Pilot Precedas - 205/50/15. Will cost me a pretty penny, but I hope it'll be worth it. Guy's asking for close to 5.7k, but I hope to bring it down a bit.
Somehow I won't feel happy with 14 inchers... and since I am spending a lot on the car, what the heck

I plan to get 4 of these tyres, and a similar sized cheaper stepney.
Comments?

IMHO No point going for the same sized stepney. Suggest you use one of the OE rim & tyre for the stepney, as they are hardly ever used & you save money too. I have almost sold all my cars with unused stepneys - so far

razor4077 · 26th June 2007, 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by iraghava

Razor - Forgot to tell you, my guy quoted 5.7k for 205/50 R15 Michelin Pilot Preceda 2, don't buy the PP1 for this price.

PP2 is available in India?
I have sent a mail to Michelin asking for confirmation on the price. Let's see what they say.
I ordered the tyres, which I assume are PP1... wonder what I should do now.

@ricky: i usually buy a spare rim, just in case one of them cracks or gets damaged. happened in my santro, where one of the rims was damaged... it got repaired, but looked ugly after that. it's my spare now. it's never easy to get a single replacement rim for the imported ones, and sometimes they are discontinued or unavailable... so would like to keep that backup.
OE tyres are 13", and rims are 15", so cannot use that. in any case, i'm getting a decent buy-back rate for the old tyres, so it shouldn't be that bad.

lancer80 · 27th June 2007, 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by razor4077

PP2 is available in India?
I have sent a mail to Michelin asking for confirmation on the price. Let's see what they say.

How did you contact them ? There is absolutely no information on their website about the tyres they offer for India. Is there a website for Michelin India?

Ricky_63 · 27th June 2007, 10:33

@ricky: i usually buy a spare rim, just in case one of them cracks or gets damaged. happened in my santro, where one of the rims was damaged... it got repaired, but looked ugly after that. it's my spare now. it's never easy to get a single replacement rim for the imported ones, and sometimes they are discontinued or unavailable... so would like to keep that backup.
OE tyres are 13", and rims are 15", so cannot use that. in any case, i'm getting a decent buy-back rate for the old tyres, so it shouldn't be that bad.[/quote]

Concern 1 - totally justified - you would normally not get the same imported rim after a while

Concern 2 - Different rim size does not matter. As the OE rim will be running OE tyres which are a much higher profile so the total differential in diameter is negligible. That's my take. Tubeless tyres normally take you a fair distance with a puncture unless one has a bent rim & thus a flat. Anyways do what you are comfortable with.

Cheers

iraghava · 27th June 2007, 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by razor4077

PP2 is available in India?
I have sent a mail to Michelin asking for confirmation on the price. Let's see what they say.
I ordered the tyres, which I assume are PP1... wonder what I should do now.

Yes, they are readily available in India.

24th June 2007, 16:58	#31
junior schumi Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DELHI Posts: 5 Thanked: 0 Times	i have 215 40 R17'' on nmy 1999 model city .........n m happy da way they perform.....n look gr8 from every angel even da milege only dipped by one unit n i feel its a nice combination. mine is a green city wit 17'' gtreen alloys keep imagining how they look.
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24th June 2007, 21:01	#32
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,881 Thanked: 300 Times View My Garage	Why not post a pic? Instead of leaving us imagining?
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25th June 2007, 15:26	#33
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,881 Thanked: 300 Times View My Garage	I'm getting a quote of close to 5.7k per tyre for Pilot Preceda 205/50/15. PP 195/60/14 = 3.9k each First of all, is this a good price for these tyres, and secondly, is it worth it?
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25th June 2007, 15:57	#35
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,881 Thanked: 300 Times View My Garage	What about the 15" ones? 5.7 is a little steep. If I do opt for them, I was thinking of taking 4 of those, and a similar sized stepney (of a lesser variety). How does the GY Ventura compare? They are readily available and am sure are much cheaper.
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26th June 2007, 14:46	#36
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,881 Thanked: 300 Times View My Garage	Ok guys... here's an update. I've more or less made up my mind to go for Michelin Pilot Precedas - 205/50/15. Will cost me a pretty penny, but I hope it'll be worth it. Guy's asking for close to 5.7k, but I hope to bring it down a bit. Somehow I won't feel happy with 14 inchers... and since I am spending a lot on the car, what the heck I plan to get 4 of these tyres, and a similar sized cheaper stepney. Comments?
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26th June 2007, 15:13	#37
lancer80 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 102 Thanked: Once	15s look so much better than 14s, especially the rims you are going to be getting. 205/50/15 will be surely more comfortable when compared to 195/50/15 but you might feel like the car is slightly draggy. Does anyone know of a website where I can look for Michelin tyres (types/sizes) that will be available in Mumbai?
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26th June 2007, 19:20	#40
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 7,993 Thanked: 281 Times View My Garage	Razor - Forgot to tell you, my guy quoted 5.7k for 205/50 R15 Michelin Pilot Preceda 2, don't buy the PP1 for this price.
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27th June 2007, 10:33	#44
Ricky_63 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,880 Thanked: 520 Times View My Garage	@ricky: i usually buy a spare rim, just in case one of them cracks or gets damaged. happened in my santro, where one of the rims was damaged... it got repaired, but looked ugly after that. it's my spare now. it's never easy to get a single replacement rim for the imported ones, and sometimes they are discontinued or unavailable... so would like to keep that backup. OE tyres are 13", and rims are 15", so cannot use that. in any case, i'm getting a decent buy-back rate for the old tyres, so it shouldn't be that bad.[/quote] Concern 1 - totally justified - you would normally not get the same imported rim after a while Concern 2 - Different rim size does not matter. As the OE rim will be running OE tyres which are a much higher profile so the total differential in diameter is negligible. That's my take. Tubeless tyres normally take you a fair distance with a puncture unless one has a bent rim & thus a flat. Anyways do what you are comfortable with. Cheers
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