Tyre and rim upgrade for the Lancer

razor4077 · 27th June 2007, 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky_63

Concern 2 - Different rim size does not matter. As the OE rim will be running OE tyres which are a much higher profile so the total differential in diameter is negligible. That's my take. Tubeless tyres normally take you a fair distance with a puncture unless one has a bent rim & thus a flat.

Hey dude, not sure what you're saying here... u saying I can fit 15" rims on the OE tyres (which are made for 13" rims)? Wasn't aware this can/should be done.

UPDATE:
Just clarified with the dealer - he is asking for 5.69K for PP2, not PP1. So I guess the price is ok. Will try to get it knocked down a bit anyway!!

Vid6639 · 27th June 2007, 13:43

No no he is saying to use the OE tyres and rims. If they have the same OD as the newer tyres it's not a problem to use that over short distances.

razor4077 · 27th June 2007, 13:55

@vid: i'm aware of that. however, as i explained in a previous post i would like to get a spare rim too just in case one of those fitted gets damaged.

ricky's point is valid... will have to base that decision on the buyback price i am getting on the old rim & tyre.

iraghava · 27th June 2007, 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by razor4077

UPDATE:
Just clarified with the dealer - he is asking for 5.69K for PP2, not PP1. So I guess the price is ok. Will try to get it knocked down a bit anyway!!

Since they are speciality tyres (In India) he'll have more of a margin on them than ususal. Most dealers don't have Preceda's in stock & they order it from the company's warehouse. Even mine were procured from the Company when I fitted them because I had called up the dealer a couple of hours in advance to let him know I would be coming and wanted those tyres. So, try & haggle the dealer down to 5.5k per tyre, he might just do that.

Ricky_63 · 27th June 2007, 16:40

[quote=razor4077;481309] Hey dude, not sure what you're saying here... u saying I can fit 15" rims on the OE tyres (which are made for 13" rims)? Wasn't aware this can/should be done.

Vid seems to have understood. I am suggesting that you use one EXISTING rim & tyre. NOT mount a 15" tyre on a 13" rim (you CANNOT do that) Anyway I guess go ahead & do what you are comfortable with - I was just trying to save you some money

razor4077 · 27th June 2007, 17:13

@ricky: as i mentioned above, you have a valid point... will have to base that decision on the buyback price i am getting on the old rim & tyre. If I get a decent rate, I might go in for the new stuff, else stick to the OE ones as u suggested. Advice sahi hai dude... thanks

@ishan: thx, will do that.

razor4077 · 7th July 2007, 20:58

The Michelin PP2's are here!
Size: 205/50/15
Price: ~5.5k per
Had to leave them back at the tyre shop because the rims have not yet arrived due to weather-induced road-transport delays.
Did take a few pics though. I liked the tread pattern, and the stock tyres looked skinny next to the 205's!!

Pics:
Picasa Web Albums - razor4077 - Lancer - WIP

Picasa Web Albums - razor4077 - Lancer - WIP

P.S: Will be getting a used 195/55/15 Goodyear F1 GSD2 (or is it GSD3?... gotta check) as my spare. OD will be slightly different from the Mich, but it should be ok to get to the tyre shop.

razor4077 · 12th July 2007, 23:30

Update:
Picked up the tyres and the rims today.
4 Michelin PP2 205/50/15 tyres on Plati PY509 M6 replica rims (15" x 7J).
The spare tyre was not available... will get one by Saturday.

Total cost: 5500*4 for tyres + 4000*5 for rims = 42,000
Guy also threw in a tubeless repair kit for free.

Spare will cost about a grand, and I have been promised decent buyback rates for the old rims & tyres.

Hope I will be satisfied with this combination! Thanks to everyone who helped me make up my mind

Pics:
Picasa Web Albums - razor4077 - Lancer - WIP

Picasa Web Albums - razor4077 - Lancer - WIP

Pablo1966 · 12th October 2009, 17:36

Ok, so I've been going through this forum for the last 2 hours and my head is spinning! I need to replace my tyres - I have 5 yr old Yokohamas 185/70/r15 that I'd bought when I bought my Lancer new and replaced the rims. It sees XM1+ sound promising, so of course a few questions -

1 - what are my upgrade options? Handling is very important for me...is there a consensus on which size is the best?
2- Around how much are they here in Hyderabad
3- anyone recommend where to go?

Thanks so much guys!!!

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wolfinstein · 22nd March 2010, 23:04

Guys, Please advise

I'm upgrading the lancer SFX wheels 187/60/R14

Options: Bridgestone Potenza G3

195/55/R15
205/50/R15
205/55/R15

Please advise which is better and what are the advantages and Disadvantages of each.- Please note, I am getting a new OEM Suspension( KYB Gas) and also have a 12 KG CNG Tank- 65 Kg in normal weight on the car.

lancer_rit · 23rd July 2010, 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfinstein

Guys, Please advise

I'm upgrading the lancer SFX wheels 187/60/R14

Options: Bridgestone Potenza G3

195/55/R15
205/50/R15
205/55/R15

Please advise which is better and what are the advantages and Disadvantages of each.- Please note, I am getting a new OEM Suspension( KYB Gas) and also have a 12 KG CNG Tank- 65 Kg in normal weight on the car.

195/55/R15 or 205/50/R15 is the right upsize for SFXi.
Having upsized to 195/60R15 for my GLXi, I would recommend against going to 205 - 195 is ideal.
Where did you procure the KYB Gas suspension from ?

bonesmith · 13th August 2010, 01:08

Hi

My first post here.

I was keen on an upgrade, then browsed in to GTOs write up and decided to stay on with this car, as it has done just 55K in 6 years.

I decided to embellish her.

What will be the best replacement for the stock wheels on my Lancer GLd( 175/60/13) ?

My drive is 80/20 ( city/highway).

Which will be a better change ? 15 " or 14 " alloys and what will be the suiting rubber.

Requesting advice from lancer afficionados.

Ranjith

Vid6639 · 13th August 2010, 08:41

14" alloys with 185/65-14 or 195/60-14 size tyres. Both the sizes work perfectly on the Lancer.

185/65-14 will have marginal improvement in ride comfort and a slightly lighter steering.

195/60-14 makes the steering a wee bit heavy at parking speeds but a gem on the highway.

Choose your poison. :-)

devarshi84 · 17th October 2012, 17:02

My 2003 Lancer has entered its 10th year.

After using MRF ZVTS 175/65 R14 (Stock)
Michelin XM1 185/65 R14
Micheling XM1+ 185/65 R14

I have decided to upsize and lighten my alloy Wheels+ tire package.

I have three options

1. Keep stock 14-inch alloy wheels (Are there lighter options available?). Saves me from investing money on a 10-year old car. Also, I will go for the lightest 14-inch tyre in the 175/65 185/65 195/60 options from various manufacturers. Which manufacturer provided the lightest tyres? Any recommendations?

2. Upsize to 15-inch. I am looking at Apollo alloys for now. I do intend to carry the weight scale at alloy shops and note down the weight of all the 15-inch alloys. Will I save weight compared to the 14-inch stock alloys plus 14 inch wheels combo? I intend to go for 195/55 R15. Again, what tyre options are available?

3. Upsize to 17-inch. This option is strictly here because I have fallen in love with a pair of Lenso Samurai Alloys I can get from a friend. Probably go for a low profile 205/45 or something tyre? Will this option be lightweight?

I know that lighter weight at the wheels helps a lot, but with a 10kg sub in the boot, am I going to save that much by saving about 8-10 kgs at the wheel?

My budget in total for all the above mentioned options is around 30-35K max.

Sankar · 17th October 2012, 18:40

How much does the car's stock alloy wheels weigh?

Every kilo that you can save at the wheels will help. Lesser the rotational inertia the better it is. Lesser unsprung weight too.

Option 3 will be the heaviest, rubber sidewalls are lighter than aluminium.

My car's stock steel is weigh 7 kilos, the Neo alloys I have on my car weigh less than 5.5kilos. Both are 14 inches. Accurate measurements not possible on the bathroom scale.

27th June 2007, 13:43	#47
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,483 Times View My Garage	No no he is saying to use the OE tyres and rims. If they have the same OD as the newer tyres it's not a problem to use that over short distances.
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27th June 2007, 13:55	#48
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,882 Thanked: 298 Times View My Garage	@vid: i'm aware of that. however, as i explained in a previous post i would like to get a spare rim too just in case one of those fitted gets damaged. ricky's point is valid... will have to base that decision on the buyback price i am getting on the old rim & tyre.
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27th June 2007, 16:40	#50
Ricky_63 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,885 Thanked: 518 Times View My Garage	[quote=razor4077;481309] Hey dude, not sure what you're saying here... u saying I can fit 15" rims on the OE tyres (which are made for 13" rims)? Wasn't aware this can/should be done. Vid seems to have understood. I am suggesting that you use one EXISTING rim & tyre. NOT mount a 15" tyre on a 13" rim (you CANNOT do that) Anyway I guess go ahead & do what you are comfortable with - I was just trying to save you some money
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27th June 2007, 17:13	#51
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,882 Thanked: 298 Times View My Garage	@ricky: as i mentioned above, you have a valid point... will have to base that decision on the buyback price i am getting on the old rim & tyre. If I get a decent rate, I might go in for the new stuff, else stick to the OE ones as u suggested. Advice sahi hai dude... thanks @ishan: thx, will do that.
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7th July 2007, 20:58	#52
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,882 Thanked: 298 Times View My Garage	PP2's are here! The Michelin PP2's are here! Size: 205/50/15 Price: ~5.5k per Had to leave them back at the tyre shop because the rims have not yet arrived due to weather-induced road-transport delays. Did take a few pics though. I liked the tread pattern, and the stock tyres looked skinny next to the 205's!! Pics: Picasa Web Albums - razor4077 - Lancer - WIP Picasa Web Albums - razor4077 - Lancer - WIP P.S: Will be getting a used 195/55/15 Goodyear F1 GSD2 (or is it GSD3?... gotta check) as my spare. OD will be slightly different from the Mich, but it should be ok to get to the tyre shop.
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12th July 2007, 23:30	#53
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,882 Thanked: 298 Times View My Garage	Update: Picked up the tyres and the rims today. 4 Michelin PP2 205/50/15 tyres on Plati PY509 M6 replica rims (15" x 7J). The spare tyre was not available... will get one by Saturday. Total cost: 55004 for tyres + 40005 for rims = 42,000 Guy also threw in a tubeless repair kit for free. Spare will cost about a grand, and I have been promised decent buyback rates for the old rims & tyres. Hope I will be satisfied with this combination! Thanks to everyone who helped me make up my mind Pics: Picasa Web Albums - razor4077 - Lancer - WIP Picasa Web Albums - razor4077 - Lancer - WIP
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12th October 2009, 17:36	#54
Pablo1966 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 5 Thanked: 0 Times	Lancer upgrade Ok, so I've been going through this forum for the last 2 hours and my head is spinning! I need to replace my tyres - I have 5 yr old Yokohamas 185/70/r15 that I'd bought when I bought my Lancer new and replaced the rims. It sees XM1+ sound promising, so of course a few questions - 1 - what are my upgrade options? Handling is very important for me...is there a consensus on which size is the best? 2- Around how much are they here in Hyderabad 3- anyone recommend where to go? Thanks so much guys!!! Note from Team-BHP Support : Thread merged. Please use the search feature before creating a new thread on a topic that might already exist. This will keep all the relevant information in one place and make it easier for readers in the future. Last edited by Eddy : 12th October 2009 at 18:07. Reason: Note Inline
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22nd March 2010, 23:04	#55
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 994 Thanked: 20 Times	Guys, Please advise I'm upgrading the lancer SFX wheels 187/60/R14 Options: Bridgestone Potenza G3 195/55/R15 205/50/R15 205/55/R15 Please advise which is better and what are the advantages and Disadvantages of each.- Please note, I am getting a new OEM Suspension( KYB Gas) and also have a 12 KG CNG Tank- 65 Kg in normal weight on the car.
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13th August 2010, 01:08	#57
bonesmith Newbie Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 13 Thanked: 5 Times	Hi My first post here. I was keen on an upgrade, then browsed in to GTOs write up and decided to stay on with this car, as it has done just 55K in 6 years. I decided to embellish her. What will be the best replacement for the stock wheels on my Lancer GLd( 175/60/13) ? My drive is 80/20 ( city/highway). Which will be a better change ? 15 " or 14 " alloys and what will be the suiting rubber. Requesting advice from lancer afficionados. Ranjith
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13th August 2010, 08:41	#58
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,483 Times View My Garage	14" alloys with 185/65-14 or 195/60-14 size tyres. Both the sizes work perfectly on the Lancer. 185/65-14 will have marginal improvement in ride comfort and a slightly lighter steering. 195/60-14 makes the steering a wee bit heavy at parking speeds but a gem on the highway. Choose your poison. :-)
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17th October 2012, 17:02	#59
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	Lightest Alloy wheel +tyre for my car My 2003 Lancer has entered its 10th year. After using MRF ZVTS 175/65 R14 (Stock) Michelin XM1 185/65 R14 Micheling XM1+ 185/65 R14 I have decided to upsize and lighten my alloy Wheels+ tire package. I have three options 1. Keep stock 14-inch alloy wheels (Are there lighter options available?). Saves me from investing money on a 10-year old car. Also, I will go for the lightest 14-inch tyre in the 175/65 185/65 195/60 options from various manufacturers. Which manufacturer provided the lightest tyres? Any recommendations? 2. Upsize to 15-inch. I am looking at Apollo alloys for now. I do intend to carry the weight scale at alloy shops and note down the weight of all the 15-inch alloys. Will I save weight compared to the 14-inch stock alloys plus 14 inch wheels combo? I intend to go for 195/55 R15. Again, what tyre options are available? 3. Upsize to 17-inch. This option is strictly here because I have fallen in love with a pair of Lenso Samurai Alloys I can get from a friend. Probably go for a low profile 205/45 or something tyre? Will this option be lightweight? I know that lighter weight at the wheels helps a lot, but with a 10kg sub in the boot, am I going to save that much by saving about 8-10 kgs at the wheel? My budget in total for all the above mentioned options is around 30-35K max.
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17th October 2012, 18:40	#60
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,766 Thanked: 9,054 Times	How much does the car's stock alloy wheels weigh? Every kilo that you can save at the wheels will help. Lesser the rotational inertia the better it is. Lesser unsprung weight too. Option 3 will be the heaviest, rubber sidewalls are lighter than aluminium. My car's stock steel is weigh 7 kilos, the Neo alloys I have on my car weigh less than 5.5kilos. Both are 14 inches. Accurate measurements not possible on the bathroom scale.
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