Tyre and rim upgrade for the Lancer

razor4077 · 23rd June 2007, 22:26

Hey guys,
As some of you know, my Lancer is undergoing a major overhaul. Skipping to the relevant part - the tyres and the alloys.
For the alloys, I have decided upon the Plati PY509 rims, which are the M6 replicas that can be seen on this thead:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ade-civic.html

Now comes the tough part - the tyres.
I had almost finalized Yokohama AVS ES100 tyres - size: 205/55/15.
However, these are unavailable in Calcutta... am getting them in Bombay for 4k per tyre. Shipping will cost close to 1.5k for 5 tyres + octroi + W.Bengal state taxes + the running around to get a waybill for the same.

So I started checking out the local options.
In the 205/55/15 size, the only option for me is Goodyear Eagle Ventura. Some like this tyre, but I think they are a little too hard, and not to my liking.
Tyrewalla suggested I opt for 205/50/15, which have a smaller RR than the stock 175/80/13, but have been used without hassles on Lancers.
Options:
Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 & a Falken tyre (dunno the model name).

Else,
Go down one size and opt for 195/60/14.
Options:
Michelin Pilot Preceda, GY Eagle F1 GSD2, Bridgestone Potenza G3

So guys, need your suggestions here. Should I go for 15 inchers? 205/50/15 seems to suggest a harsh ride (however, I am fitting Pedders heavy duty coil springs + Pedders Comfort Gas shockers - this should be kept in mind). The GSD3's cannot be that bad... tirerack has it #3 in its category. I've been quoted 4.4k per, but this may go down after some bargaining.

Or should I play it safe and opt for 14"? I was thinking of the Pilot Precedas (< 3.5k per) if so. What's the feedback on them?

Little help here?

Vid6639 · 23rd June 2007, 22:35

Razor, 205/55-15 will foul on full load with the rear body work. Suggest you take the 205/50-15.

Harmon_bro had the same problem with his tyres, they used to scrape the rear fender.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-...tml#post438970 (Is 215 a BIG no for a Lancer?)

Ride will go down but they will not scrape.

Tyres, from your options the goodyear venturas seem to be ok. No such bad review from those. But dont go near the goodyear eagle f1's. higher rate of wear and very noisy. They are number one on tire rack cause the roads are not comparable to the ones we have here. On bad roads they pose many problems.

Michelin Preceda is the best bet. Our inhouse tyre wallah Iraghava has them on his OHC. get a review from him.

The bridestone Potenza g-III are also very good. Nice grip but they can be a little noisy on the lancer.

I would play it safe for good ride and handling and go for 195/60-14 in the Michelin energy XM1 or the potenza G-III.

razor4077 · 23rd June 2007, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by vid6639

I would play it safe for good ride and handling and go for 195/60-14 in the Michelin energy XM1 or the potenza G-III.

You mean Preceda? Don't want to go for XM1.

Vid6639 · 23rd June 2007, 23:18

Yeah preceda if your looking for performance and energy XM1 if ride is more priority.

faithless_1984 · 23rd June 2007, 23:32

@razor - as someone mentioned in harmon_bro`s thread the look of a particular rim (like the M6 replica) or any rim depends on the size ,it may not look that good in 14` size but would look killer in 17` but as you want good ride quality then IMHO atleast go for 15` rims.

razor4077 · 23rd June 2007, 23:46

@faithless: that's a good point. will have to mount them on the car and see how they look. i saw these in 14" on an NHC and they looked pretty darn good... in fact, they were my inspiration so to speak

but yea, i'll keep that in mind.
btw, any other suggestions for rims? i want to go for the machined-black finish (as in the rim pics mentioned above).

faithless_1984 · 24th June 2007, 00:23

well to give you an idea about how the M6 replica rims would look in a bigger size here is a pic of a Lancer with 17` M6 replica rims.

[img=http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9300/mivecpk5.th.jpg]

source -

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/team-b...ter-noida.html

So please dont go for 14` rims.....Phoenix deserves bigger rims.

razor4077 · 24th June 2007, 00:47

Lol.. you're tempting me dude! I'm just a little unsure about the kind of ride I'll get from 15 inchers, especially with a 50 profile.
Will I survive Indian roads on these?

Vid6639 · 24th June 2007, 00:51

yeah dude no probs with the 15".

Also you are changing your suspension. That should be a little stiff so even with the 205/55-15 your car may not come that low to touch the body work.

Just select the alloy offset and rim width correctly.

lancer80 · 24th June 2007, 01:01

You can also try 195/55/15 but the ride isn't that great. Even though is better than 205s. I wouldn't recommend 205s 15inch at all.

I think your best bet would be 195/60/14 Michelin Pilot Preceda.. best of both worlds (performance & comfort)

Im sure a lot of you have used the Michelin Pilot Preceda, how are they for our Indians roads, when considering comfort as priority?

lancer80 · 24th June 2007, 01:02

Opps! I did not consider the change of suspension in my ealier post.

razor4077 · 24th June 2007, 01:08

205/55/15 is a little tough to get... like i mentioned, only Venturas are available in this size and i'm not too keen on those.
What say you about 205/50/15?

v1p3r · 24th June 2007, 01:57

Put 17"s with 215/40 ZR 17. Looks smashing on a Lancer.

razor4077 · 24th June 2007, 02:06

Lol... I have a bad back already dude. Don't think 17 inchers will help

Wish I could tho...

But coming back to the 15"... how harsh a ride will these provide, as compared to a 14" setup?

v1p3r · 24th June 2007, 02:07

To be honest, 17s are not all that bad. I've driven quite a few cars with them, and with soft OE setups like the Lancer, they're livable. Yes, you can't fly over bad roads or speed-breakers, but they'll be ok.

Anyway, 15"s vs 14"s also depends on the brand of the tyre. Some are softer and ride better, so you won't tell the difference, some aren't. But empirically, the 14"s will have a better ride.

Why Plati? Why don't you go OZ or Enkei?

23rd June 2007, 22:26	#1
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,881 Thanked: 300 Times View My Garage	Tyre and rim upgrade for the Lancer Hey guys, As some of you know, my Lancer is undergoing a major overhaul. Skipping to the relevant part - the tyres and the alloys. For the alloys, I have decided upon the Plati PY509 rims, which are the M6 replicas that can be seen on this thead: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ade-civic.html Now comes the tough part - the tyres. I had almost finalized Yokohama AVS ES100 tyres - size: 205/55/15. However, these are unavailable in Calcutta... am getting them in Bombay for 4k per tyre. Shipping will cost close to 1.5k for 5 tyres + octroi + W.Bengal state taxes + the running around to get a waybill for the same. So I started checking out the local options. In the 205/55/15 size, the only option for me is Goodyear Eagle Ventura. Some like this tyre, but I think they are a little too hard, and not to my liking. Tyrewalla suggested I opt for 205/50/15, which have a smaller RR than the stock 175/80/13, but have been used without hassles on Lancers. Options: Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 & a Falken tyre (dunno the model name). Else, Go down one size and opt for 195/60/14. Options: Michelin Pilot Preceda, GY Eagle F1 GSD2, Bridgestone Potenza G3 So guys, need your suggestions here. Should I go for 15 inchers? 205/50/15 seems to suggest a harsh ride (however, I am fitting Pedders heavy duty coil springs + Pedders Comfort Gas shockers - this should be kept in mind). The GSD3's cannot be that bad... tirerack has it #3 in its category. I've been quoted 4.4k per, but this may go down after some bargaining. Or should I play it safe and opt for 14"? I was thinking of the Pilot Precedas (< 3.5k per) if so. What's the feedback on them? Little help here? Last edited by razor4077 : 23rd June 2007 at 22:27.
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23rd June 2007, 22:35	#2
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,711 Thanked: 44,147 Times View My Garage	Razor, 205/55-15 will foul on full load with the rear body work. Suggest you take the 205/50-15. Harmon_bro had the same problem with his tyres, they used to scrape the rear fender. https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-...tml#post438970 (Is 215 a BIG no for a Lancer?) Ride will go down but they will not scrape. Tyres, from your options the goodyear venturas seem to be ok. No such bad review from those. But dont go near the goodyear eagle f1's. higher rate of wear and very noisy. They are number one on tire rack cause the roads are not comparable to the ones we have here. On bad roads they pose many problems. Michelin Preceda is the best bet. Our inhouse tyre wallah Iraghava has them on his OHC. get a review from him. The bridestone Potenza g-III are also very good. Nice grip but they can be a little noisy on the lancer. I would play it safe for good ride and handling and go for 195/60-14 in the Michelin energy XM1 or the potenza G-III. Last edited by Vid6639 : 23rd June 2007 at 22:38.
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23rd June 2007, 23:18	#4
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,711 Thanked: 44,147 Times View My Garage	Yeah preceda if your looking for performance and energy XM1 if ride is more priority.
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23rd June 2007, 23:32	#5
faithless_1984 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 1,575 Thanked: 328 Times View My Garage	@razor - as someone mentioned in harmon_bro`s thread the look of a particular rim (like the M6 replica) or any rim depends on the size ,it may not look that good in 14` size but would look killer in 17` but as you want good ride quality then IMHO atleast go for 15` rims.
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23rd June 2007, 23:46	#6
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,881 Thanked: 300 Times View My Garage	@faithless: that's a good point. will have to mount them on the car and see how they look. i saw these in 14" on an NHC and they looked pretty darn good... in fact, they were my inspiration so to speak but yea, i'll keep that in mind. btw, any other suggestions for rims? i want to go for the machined-black finish (as in the rim pics mentioned above).
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24th June 2007, 00:23	#7
faithless_1984 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 1,575 Thanked: 328 Times View My Garage	well to give you an idea about how the M6 replica rims would look in a bigger size here is a pic of a Lancer with 17` M6 replica rims. [img=http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9300/mivecpk5.th.jpg] source - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/team-b...ter-noida.html So please dont go for 14` rims.....Phoenix deserves bigger rims.
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24th June 2007, 00:47	#8
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,881 Thanked: 300 Times View My Garage	Lol.. you're tempting me dude! I'm just a little unsure about the kind of ride I'll get from 15 inchers, especially with a 50 profile. Will I survive Indian roads on these?
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24th June 2007, 00:51	#9
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,711 Thanked: 44,147 Times View My Garage	yeah dude no probs with the 15". Also you are changing your suspension. That should be a little stiff so even with the 205/55-15 your car may not come that low to touch the body work. Just select the alloy offset and rim width correctly.
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24th June 2007, 01:01	#10
lancer80 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 102 Thanked: Once	You can also try 195/55/15 but the ride isn't that great. Even though is better than 205s. I wouldn't recommend 205s 15inch at all. I think your best bet would be 195/60/14 Michelin Pilot Preceda.. best of both worlds (performance & comfort) Im sure a lot of you have used the Michelin Pilot Preceda, how are they for our Indians roads, when considering comfort as priority?
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24th June 2007, 01:02	#11
lancer80 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 102 Thanked: Once	Opps! I did not consider the change of suspension in my ealier post.
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24th June 2007, 01:08	#12
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,881 Thanked: 300 Times View My Garage	205/55/15 is a little tough to get... like i mentioned, only Venturas are available in this size and i'm not too keen on those. What say you about 205/50/15?
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24th June 2007, 01:57	#13
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,363 Thanked: 7,504 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (7)	Put 17"s with 215/40 ZR 17. Looks smashing on a Lancer.
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24th June 2007, 02:06	#14
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,881 Thanked: 300 Times View My Garage	Lol... I have a bad back already dude. Don't think 17 inchers will help Wish I could tho... But coming back to the 15"... how harsh a ride will these provide, as compared to a 14" setup?
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24th June 2007, 02:07	#15
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,363 Thanked: 7,504 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (7)	To be honest, 17s are not all that bad. I've driven quite a few cars with them, and with soft OE setups like the Lancer, they're livable. Yes, you can't fly over bad roads or speed-breakers, but they'll be ok. Anyway, 15"s vs 14"s also depends on the brand of the tyre. Some are softer and ride better, so you won't tell the difference, some aren't. But empirically, the 14"s will have a better ride. Why Plati? Why don't you go OZ or Enkei?
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