[autopsyche]

I recently put 185/60/R13 Falken tires on a zen with Negative Offset 5.5J rims instead of wheel spcaers and it didnt touch anywhere.

[speedsatya]

Originally Posted by Shan2nu

Exactly, so how does reducing the rim size solve your problem of the tyres touching? The width of the tyre remains the same whether it's 5j, 5.5J or 6.5J.

I said 6.5 J is too big since the mentioned tyre can very well be fitted onto 5.5 J, not bcoz they touch. Why buy 6.5 J when you can fit the same tyres on a 5.5 J rim?

Shan2nu

shan,when u put 155 tires in a 5.5j rim,the outer edge of the tire is slightly outside the body.now when u fit the same tires in a 5j rim,it is slightly inside the body .maybe this is because of the narrower 5j rim.

the best example for this is mine and dippy's car.
he has 5j rims with 155/70 tires and no touching happens.mine has 155/65 with 5.5j rims and it does touch inspite of raising the ht.


buying 6.5 j when u can fit same tires on 5.5j ,gives an option of upsize in the future.
but in a zen its a total waste if you are looking at handling.




autopsyche,
how did u do that 185 tire.are you sure that the tire doesnot touch.
as anything wider than 145 wil touch at least on the rear RHS.unless u raise the ht.
and what about the front.???????doesnt it touch while turning.

[Shan2nu]

shan,when u put 155 tires in a 5.5j rim,the outer edge of the tire is slightly outside the body.now when u fit the same tires in a 5j rim,it is slightly inside the body .maybe this is because of the narrower 5j rim.

Nope, that depends on wheel offset. If the wheel has no offset or has inset, the tyre wont bulge out, beyond the body. If the tyre does bulge out, it can be compensated by using a wheel with +ive inset.

Shan2nu

[speedsatya]

Originally Posted by Shan2nu

Nope, that depends on wheel offset. If the wheel has no offset or has inset, the tyre wont bulge out, beyond the body. If the tyre does bulge out, it can be compensated by using a wheel with +ive inset.

Shan2nu

hey san,
can u pleasse explain how do u adjust the offset.
what do u need to tell the tire guy..


wont the handling be affected

[iceman91]

hey guys...i had 195/45/r14 on my zen and it did NOT touch. just the ride was a little bumpy.
offset cannot be adjusted. you have to modify it.

[Shan2nu]

offset cannot be adjusted. you have to modify it.

Ofcourse you'll have to buy alloys with your preffered offset. Once bought you can't adjust it later.

Shan2nu

[speedsatya]

Originally Posted by iceman91

hey guys...i had 195/45/r14 on my zen and it did NOT touch. just the ride was a little bumpy.
offset cannot be adjusted. you have to modify it.

but u had changed ur entire suspension.isnt it???

and how do you modify the offset

[Shan2nu]

can u pleasse explain how do u adjust the offset.
what do u need to tell the tire guy..

Well, you can't ask your tyre guy to adjust it. You'll have to make that decission before you buy your set of alloys.

Outset can be adjusted using those adapters but, that won't be the smartest way of doing it. It's better to buy an alloy with +ve outset.

It also depends on what the manufacturer has recommended. Using the wrong offset can affect your suspenssion and make the steering very light or very heavy.

No Offset
http://img7.exs.cx/img7/1245/no_offset.jpg

Inset
http://img7.exs.cx/img7/8990/inset_wheel.jpg

Outset
http://img7.exs.cx/img7/1746/outset_wheel.jpg

Shan2nu

[riffst3r]

Originally Posted by iceman91

hey guys...i had 195/45/r14 on my zen and it did NOT touch. just the ride was a little bumpy.
offset cannot be adjusted. you have to modify it.

THANKYOU! Finally I get the answer I'm looking for.

speedsatya, You should really.. and I mean *really* think before you type away like how you do.

Vulken Auto, the cheapest way to raise your car is to heat up the springs and stretch them.. thats how mechanics use to do it on ambassadors to increase the comfort of a ride back in the day.

autopsyche, I might just do the same with my Zen, ditching the spacers altogether.

Shan2nu, thanks for keeping this thread alive!

[speedsatya]

Originally Posted by riffst3r

THANKYOU! Finally I get the answer I'm looking for.

speedsatya, You should really.. and I mean *really* think before you type away like how you do.
!

sorry pal,

thanks for your concerns
henceforth i will *really *think before i waste my time on * really*people like you.
hope you *really* enjoy your **really** drive after ur mods.

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[iceman91]

no need to heat up springs just put in diesel zen springs. same size but a lot stiffer. and stiffen shocks cost abt 200 bucks.

[riffst3r]

Originally Posted by ZENGT

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Dude, that's ****ing beautiful. Is that your ride?! I haven't been able to find any body kits for the Zen, looks like I'm going to have to chop up ones for the swift and esteem.

I'm totally psyched. What do you do?

Love that paintjob.

[autopsyche]

satya: i was using negative offset rims (like those sticking out alloy rims u see on gypsys and sierras) so they provide adequate space for the 185mm tires to turn in the original space without scraping the inners. the other option is to use wheel spacers to push the rim out all together but it isnt a safe option for hard driving.

[speedsatya]

ok fine,but the inner sides may not touch ,but what about the tire coming out of the body .then it will touch when the car is loaded.
what i am talking is about the stock suspension .i know that you can use stiffer suspension ,but then wont the handling be affected at the cost of looking cool.
also,wont the wider tires strain the engine further and wont it create a drag.????????