185/55 R14 or 195/45 R14/R15 For a Zen?

autopsyche · 15th February 2005, 22:12

The tire touching the fender would definitely be a problem in that case unless the car is raised enough, or stiffer springs are used. i put my tires on one of the zens i had modified into a coupe, here is a very poor pic of it, ill try to get u a proper pic soon, it has fender flares and all designed in order to push the bodyline out to match the -ve offset 185s (and yes palio headlights are defintiely a fav among customizers

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Shan2nu · 15th February 2005, 22:14

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also,wont the wider tires strain the engine further and wont it create a drag.????????

Oh really?? You didn't seem to think that way when you were recomending 195mm tyres on tsk1979's Diesel Indica!!! LOL

However, we're not considering 195s anymore. It's either 175 or 185, i feel 175s will be the best option. 185s will help, only if the car is powerful.

Shan2nu

speedsatya · 15th February 2005, 22:20

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Originally Posted by Shan2nu

Oh really?? You didn't seem to think that way when you were recomending 195mm tyres on tsk1979's Diesel Indica!!! LOL

However, we're not considering 195s anymore. It's either 175 or 185, i feel 175s will be the best option. 185s will help, only if the car is powerful.

Shan2nu

hehe shan,
i tot u had forgotten that topic hehe.
but the very reason why i insisted on 195 for the indica was because it had the perfect OD as the stock tire.still a car with 165 tires will not be affected by a 195 tire.here u r increasing only 30mm.,but a car with 145 as stock will definitely be affected by a 195 tire.

in a zen for overall performance i.e a compromise between ride and handling one can go up to 165/60r13 at the most.even for this u have to raise the ht or stiffen the springs.

the only size that u can fit properly without any mod to the suspension in a zen is 145/70r13.

vance0712 · 15th February 2005, 22:48

i wud really agree with satya on the point that he made on the tyre and rim sizes for the zen

currently i have 145/70 r13 bridgestone donuts with 13" alloys but on certain ocassions it does touch

even i will vouch for "as 155/65r13 with 5.5j touches.but it will not touch if u use 4.5j or 5j rims"

so worry bout it people

also autospyche is one guy i wud love to believe ,just gives me additional ideas.

riffst3r · 16th February 2005, 15:35

autopsyche, DAAAAAMN.

Does anyone know of anyone in hyderabad that does this kind of work?

Vulken Auto · 16th February 2005, 16:42

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Originally Posted by riffst3r

autopsyche, DAAAAAMN.

Does anyone know of anyone in hyderabad that does this kind of work?

some one is comin to hyderabad in 2 months if you can wait!!!!!!

MKRAFT · 16th February 2005, 16:48

hey arif,

i agree that anything on 5.5 j rims and the stock suspension will touch in a zen.and once you raise the height the main attraction of the zen i.e its low CG is gone.and the car will be all over the place.
maybe satya was saying about the stock suspension set up.,i have also fitted 185 in a zen but for that u have to modify the entire suspension set-up and the wheel arches .simply increasing the height is not the solution.look what happened to the corolla after its heaight was increased.
so try and go for stiffer set up .

iceman91 · 16th February 2005, 22:06

hey might be comin to hyderabad in a month could do it for you. else could get it done over here and come there.....

riffst3r · 17th February 2005, 20:53

I'm very tempted.. I didn't even know you could do this much in india! Better get my finances ready tho..

Rehaan · 19th February 2005, 13:48

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Originally Posted by riffst3r

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Originally Posted by iceman91

hey guys...i had 195/45/r14 on my zen and it did NOT touch. just the ride was a little bumpy.
offset cannot be adjusted. you have to modify it.

THANKYOU! Finally I get the answer I'm looking for.

However, that is not EXACTLY answering your question, it would depend on -
1. Offset
2. Rim width

Also, i would stay away from spacers...they are never a good idea.

cya
R

riffst3r · 20th February 2005, 06:05

Yeah.. but I'm sure you could tell by now that I am taking those things into consideration? I was just looking to see if anyone has done it before, thats all.

True.. spacers aren't ever a good idea, but the ones I've chosen (adapters, really) have even been used in professional drag races. But yeah, if I find suitable negative offset rims, I wouldn't need them.

Thanks for replying!

Rehaan · 20th February 2005, 11:13

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Originally Posted by riffst3r

True.. spacers aren't ever a good idea, but the ones I've chosen (adapters, really) have even been used in professional drag races.

Hey Riffst3r,

Yea, i can see the spacers you have chosen aren't of run of the mill quality, but either way, with spacers or high offset wheels, you are putting a huge additional stress on the bearings and suspension. Hence take that into consideration when opting for such huge tires. Also the fact that your steering dynamics and feel will change a lot (due to wider tires as well as high offset).

cya
R

acedj · 19th July 2005, 12:12

Hi All,

I have the NEW ZEN which has stock 12" MGA rims with 145 tyres. Want to upgrade them to this config after speaking to a couple of tyre shops and friends.

Rim - Any taiwan make like K-Speed, League, BSA, Woltech, Everim, etc. 13" x 5J / 13" x 5.5J. A question here - is it oki to out 14" x 6J.

Tyre - Falken ZIEX 502 (165/60/R13). Same question, will 14" be oki ?

These questions are in context of no changes are to be made to the car to fit in the tyres. Yes, maybe a jackup of suspension is oki cos it can be done at any local shop also. Wht u guys say ?

PLS DO REFER THE METALLIC BLUE ZEN IN THIS THREAD ITSELF. IF I M RITE, GUESS THE RIMS ARE 15" READ BOUT THE SAME CAR IN SOME OTHER THREAD. SO WHOEVER HAS UPLOADED PLS TELL ME THE EXACT RIM & TYRE SPECS OF IT PLS !

prsnck · 12th December 2008, 11:53

me too a proud zen owner - 2000 lx - looking for a tyre change, rather tyre upgrade.

I am vouching for - 165/60r13 -Bridgestone Potenza g3 - and add alloys to it. For this adding spacer , will it be ok.

Bcse i has a set of spacers with me, so while upsize, can I use spacer and move ahead to - 165/60r13 - with alloy wheels.

Will this be perfect for ride, comfort and enhancement, i mean best looks and right upsize. I do not want to compromise on mileage and riding comfort which i get now with 145/70r13 tyres.

Please enlight me.

Rgrds
prsn

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Originally Posted by speedsatya

hehe shan,
i tot u had forgotten that topic hehe.
but the very reason why i insisted on 195 for the indica was because it had the perfect OD as the stock tire.still a car with 165 tires will not be affected by a 195 tire.here u r increasing only 30mm.,but a car with 145 as stock will definitely be affected by a 195 tire.

in a zen for overall performance i.e a compromise between ride and handling one can go up to 165/60r13 at the most.even for this u have to raise the ht or stiffen the springs.

the only size that u can fit properly without any mod to the suspension in a zen is 145/70r13.

adi99 · 12th December 2008, 12:39

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Originally Posted by prsnck

For this adding spacer , will it be ok.

Bcse i has a set of spacers with me, so while upsize, can I use spacer and move ahead to - 165/60r13 - with alloy wheels.

I do not want to compromise on mileage and riding comfort which i get now with 145/70r13 tyres.

Dont even think of adding spacers, your ride comfort and handling will go for a toss! My zen had spacers and I have removed it recently. I am currently running 175/60 R13 Potenza GIIIs. I dont think you will have problems with 165/60 unless your car is loaded with people all the time.

And yes, with 60 profile, there will be a little compromise on ride comfort but handling is good.

15th February 2005, 22:12	#31
autopsyche Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Delhi, Indi Posts: 1,519 Thanked: 33 Times View My Garage	The tire touching the fender would definitely be a problem in that case unless the car is raised enough, or stiffer springs are used. i put my tires on one of the zens i had modified into a coupe, here is a very poor pic of it, ill try to get u a proper pic soon, it has fender flares and all designed in order to push the bodyline out to match the -ve offset 185s (and yes palio headlights are defintiely a fav among customizers )
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15th February 2005, 22:48	#34
vance0712 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 142 Thanked: Once	point taken satya i wud really agree with satya on the point that he made on the tyre and rim sizes for the zen currently i have 145/70 r13 bridgestone donuts with 13" alloys but on certain ocassions it does touch even i will vouch for "as 155/65r13 with 5.5j touches.but it will not touch if u use 4.5j or 5j rims" so worry bout it people also autospyche is one guy i wud love to believe ,just gives me additional ideas.
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16th February 2005, 15:35	#35
riffst3r Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 17 Thanked: 0 Times	autopsyche, DAAAAAMN. Does anyone know of anyone in hyderabad that does this kind of work? Last edited by riffst3r : 16th February 2005 at 15:38.
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16th February 2005, 16:48	#37
MKRAFT BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mumbai.. Posts: 45 Thanked: 0 Times	hey arif, i agree that anything on 5.5 j rims and the stock suspension will touch in a zen.and once you raise the height the main attraction of the zen i.e its low CG is gone.and the car will be all over the place. maybe satya was saying about the stock suspension set up.,i have also fitted 185 in a zen but for that u have to modify the entire suspension set-up and the wheel arches .simply increasing the height is not the solution.look what happened to the corolla after its heaight was increased. so try and go for stiffer set up .
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16th February 2005, 22:06	#38
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	hey might be comin to hyderabad in a month could do it for you. else could get it done over here and come there.....
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17th February 2005, 20:53	#39
riffst3r Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 17 Thanked: 0 Times	I'm very tempted.. I didn't even know you could do this much in india! Better get my finances ready tho..
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20th February 2005, 06:05	#41
riffst3r Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 17 Thanked: 0 Times	Yeah.. but I'm sure you could tell by now that I am taking those things into consideration? I was just looking to see if anyone has done it before, thats all. True.. spacers aren't ever a good idea, but the ones I've chosen (adapters, really) have even been used in professional drag races. But yeah, if I find suitable negative offset rims, I wouldn't need them. Thanks for replying!
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19th July 2005, 12:12	#43
acedj Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 17 Thanked: 0 Times	Which rim n tyre for NEW ZEN? Hi All, I have the NEW ZEN which has stock 12" MGA rims with 145 tyres. Want to upgrade them to this config after speaking to a couple of tyre shops and friends. Rim - Any taiwan make like K-Speed, League, BSA, Woltech, Everim, etc. 13" x 5J / 13" x 5.5J. A question here - is it oki to out 14" x 6J. Tyre - Falken ZIEX 502 (165/60/R13). Same question, will 14" be oki ? These questions are in context of no changes are to be made to the car to fit in the tyres. Yes, maybe a jackup of suspension is oki cos it can be done at any local shop also. Wht u guys say ? PLS DO REFER THE METALLIC BLUE ZEN IN THIS THREAD ITSELF. IF I M RITE, GUESS THE RIMS ARE 15" READ BOUT THE SAME CAR IN SOME OTHER THREAD. SO WHOEVER HAS UPLOADED PLS TELL ME THE EXACT RIM & TYRE SPECS OF IT PLS ! Last edited by acedj : 19th July 2005 at 12:19.
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