Indian built/assembled classics

Stanher · 22nd August 2006, 10:54

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

As i dont have pics of the eary Hindustan 10, lets start with the later models...
based heavily on the morris minor, note the M of the morris badge replaced with H

Hey Karl,
Nice thread u've started here.....however, may I point out the Hindustan 14 (as in ur pics.) was based on the Morris Oxford 'MO' series, the Minor of course later proved as the basis for the Baby Hindustan

dr fate · 30th October 2006, 01:18

i noticed a lot of car brochures do you actually have them?if yes iam green with envy as i tried searching for them so far i have dealer pictures of standard 2000 and maruti 800,van and gypsy(old)iam trying for more do post in owner manuals and such litterature for they are rarer than the cars themselves.

karlosdeville · 30th October 2006, 10:49

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Originally Posted by dr fate

i noticed a lot of car brochures do you actually have them?if yes iam green with envy as i tried searching for them so far i have dealer pictures of standard 2000 and maruti 800,van and gypsy(old)iam trying for more do post in owner manuals and such litterature for they are rarer than the cars themselves.

well, most of my litrature i downloaded unfortunately...theyre impossible to find s nobody preserves indian stuff...tis a crying shame....actually theyre on ebay (us & uk) all the time...thats where i found these...do scan and post ur stuff online as well...also chck out http://storm.tocmp.com/

cheers

kasli · 30th October 2006, 11:06

Please advise me accoringly where I can post you some for you to upload against the same link.

Regards
Kasli

kasli · 30th October 2006, 12:32

Hi, There was also the Austin Big Six which was assembled in India. I have attached the Link with this [img=http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/4590/dsc0012un0.th.jpg]

Regards
Aniruddh

dr fate · 30th October 2006, 14:54

[quote=karlosdeville]well, most of my litrature i downloaded unfortunately...theyre impossible to find s nobody preserves indian stuff...tis a crying shame....actually theyre on ebay (us & uk) all the time...thats where i found these...do scan and post ur stuff online as well...also chck out http://storm.tocmp.com/
Ok fine if i can find any in the dealer circle or any other source i will pm you you can add it to your collection or for your enthususiasm on old classics deserves an applause from anoher like minded enthusiast.

regards

karlosdeville · 30th October 2006, 15:30

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Originally Posted by kasli

Please advise me accoringly where I can post you some for you to upload against the same link.

Regards
Kasli

i think a dedicated thread is in order...give me a couple of days...

cheers

khanak · 30th November 2006, 12:51

Hey Karl
Did chevrolet ever make anything in India. Their website says

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Production started in 1928 with the National Series AB Touring

also somthing about Ford in India

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Ford introduced the popular Model A

once again thanks for an amazing article

Thanks
Adhish

khanak · 30th November 2006, 13:18

Also Sipani Motors made 4 cars for india. They were first formed as Sunrise Motors and then changed their name to Sipani Motors

* Badal based on the Reliant Robin

* Dolphin based on the Reliant Kitten

* Montana (a 4 door version of the Dolphin)

* Montana D1

After renaming themselves Maestro Motors they launched the Rover Montego which flopped. Theyre now called Arjun Motors and apparently a car called the 500 or somtihng.

More at

1. SIPANI DOLPHIN / MONTANNA [INDIA] PAGE
2. Cybersteering.com - Lemons of Indian Motoring History
3. The UNOFFICIAL Austin-Rover Web Resource

karlosdeville · 30th November 2006, 14:42

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Originally Posted by khanak

Hey Karl
Did chevrolet ever make anything in India. Their website says

also somthing about Ford in India

once again thanks for an amazing article

Thanks
Adhish

Yessir, thats right...infact all of the big 3 were present in india, and packed up around independance time...that explains why left hand drive cars were assembled here for so long! though i dont think they were manufacturing, i think it was just assembly....i could be wrong...the GM trucks did very well though

Austin was present in india representing the brits too...and of course, morris...

the dolphin was quite a nice car actually...peppy, smart, contemporary (for its time), it was even quite popular with rallying in india...if u ask me, the 3 wheeled robin still has a market in india, im sure itll be dirt cheap to build...and thats pretty much our priority!

the montana though was an absolute dog...powered by a tractor engine, it was miserable!

also go through the standard motors page in the Indian cars section at austin-rover.co.uk

khanak · 30th November 2006, 15:05

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

Yessir, thats right...infact all of the big 3 were present in india, and packed up around independance time...that explains why left hand drive cars were assembled here for so long! though i dont think they were manufacturing, i think it was just assembly....i could be wrong...the GM trucks did very well though

any idea what models were launched by ford and chevrolet?

Morris was launched in india?
I thought all morriss were imported from england.

ps - I have a morris minor which has some work pending.

btw im including all this into a wikipdedia article on cars in india

khanak · 8th December 2006, 12:27

I jsut got some better pics of some Sipani Cars from a Czech Website

I think the site also has some tech specs so if anyone can find a translator online or somthing ittl be great.

Badal

Badal 4

Dolphin

Dolphin Estate

Dolphin

Montana

Montana D1

ex670c · 8th December 2006, 13:17

The Following 4WDs are considered as Classics

WILLYS/JEEP - CJ3B made by M&M from 1953(CKDs) to 1996
Excluding the Diesel variants CJ3B diesel variants CJ340DP & CL340DP (CLASSIC) were made upto 2000.

Nissan Patrol P60/G60 - Were made with the original P60 3956cc 6cyl petrol engine from 1967-69? to 1999

MAN630 aka "Shaktiman" was made from 1967-69? to 1999 with a variety of diesel engines starting from the mighty 8.3L 6cyl Diesel to the 6L Hino Diesel.

Regards,

Arka

karlosdeville · 8th December 2006, 17:32

fantastic stuff khanak, these pics are priceless!!!

so does anyone know of any surviving badals? i had once seen a dolphin station wagon in kothrud, pune...and what about production figures of any of them?

khanak · 8th December 2006, 19:13

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

fantastic stuff khanak, these pics are priceless!!!

so does anyone know of any surviving badals? i had once seen a dolphin station wagon in kothrud, pune...and what about production figures of any of them?

Badal? Iv not seen any Sipani cars except the Dolphin.

30th October 2006, 01:18	#17
dr fate BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 78 Thanked: 6 Times	i noticed a lot of car brochures do you actually have them?if yes iam green with envy as i tried searching for them so far i have dealer pictures of standard 2000 and maruti 800,van and gypsy(old)iam trying for more do post in owner manuals and such litterature for they are rarer than the cars themselves.
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30th October 2006, 11:06	#19
kasli Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: BOMBAY Posts: 1,821 Thanked: 2,005 Times	Indian assembled vintage & Classic cars Please advise me accoringly where I can post you some for you to upload against the same link. Regards Kasli
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30th October 2006, 12:32	#20
kasli Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: BOMBAY Posts: 1,821 Thanked: 2,005 Times	Austin Big Six Hi, There was also the Austin Big Six which was assembled in India. I have attached the Link with this [img=http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/4590/dsc0012un0.th.jpg] Regards Aniruddh
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30th October 2006, 14:54	#21
dr fate BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 78 Thanked: 6 Times	[quote=karlosdeville]well, most of my litrature i downloaded unfortunately...theyre impossible to find s nobody preserves indian stuff...tis a crying shame....actually theyre on ebay (us & uk) all the time...thats where i found these...do scan and post ur stuff online as well...also chck out http://storm.tocmp.com/ Ok fine if i can find any in the dealer circle or any other source i will pm you you can add it to your collection or for your enthususiasm on old classics deserves an applause from anoher like minded enthusiast. regards
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30th November 2006, 13:18	#24
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,799 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	Also Sipani Motors made 4 cars for india. They were first formed as Sunrise Motors and then changed their name to Sipani Motors * Badal based on the Reliant Robin * Dolphin based on the Reliant Kitten * Montana (a 4 door version of the Dolphin) * Montana D1 After renaming themselves Maestro Motors they launched the Rover Montego which flopped. Theyre now called Arjun Motors and apparently a car called the 500 or somtihng. More at 1. SIPANI DOLPHIN / MONTANNA [INDIA] PAGE 2. Cybersteering.com - Lemons of Indian Motoring History 3. The UNOFFICIAL Austin-Rover Web Resource
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8th December 2006, 12:27	#27
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,799 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	I jsut got some better pics of some Sipani Cars from a Czech Website I think the site also has some tech specs so if anyone can find a translator online or somthing ittl be great. Badal Badal 4 Dolphin Dolphin Estate Dolphin Montana Montana D1 Last edited by khanak : 8th December 2006 at 12:31.
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8th December 2006, 13:17	#28
ex670c Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 2,470 Thanked: 1,939 Times View My Garage	What about 4WDs The Following 4WDs are considered as Classics WILLYS/JEEP - CJ3B made by M&M from 1953(CKDs) to 1996 Excluding the Diesel variants CJ3B diesel variants CJ340DP & CL340DP (CLASSIC) were made upto 2000. Nissan Patrol P60/G60 - Were made with the original P60 3956cc 6cyl petrol engine from 1967-69? to 1999 MAN630 aka "Shaktiman" was made from 1967-69? to 1999 with a variety of diesel engines starting from the mighty 8.3L 6cyl Diesel to the 6L Hino Diesel. Regards, Arka
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8th December 2006, 17:32	#29
karlosdeville Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 11,976 Thanked: 18,277 Times View My Garage	fantastic stuff khanak, these pics are priceless!!! so does anyone know of any surviving badals? i had once seen a dolphin station wagon in kothrud, pune...and what about production figures of any of them?
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