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Tata Tiago & Tigor CNG AMT launched at Rs 7.89 lakh

The Tata Tiago iCNG AMT is available in four variants, while the Tigor iCNG AMT comes in two top-spec trims.

Tata Motors has announced the launch of India’s first-ever CNG-powered models equipped with an automated manual transmission (AMT). Prices for the Tiago iCNG AMT start at Rs 7,89,900, while the Tigor iCNG AMT is priced at Rs 8,84,900 (ex-showroom).

The Tata Tiago iCNG AMT is available in four variants – XTA, XZA+, XZA+ Dual Tone and XZA NRG. The Tigor iCNG AMT is only available in the top-spec XZA and XZA+ trims. Both models get Tata's dual-cylinder CNG tank technology. Instead of a single large CNG cylinder that gobbles up boot space, the cars are equipped with two smaller cylinders that fit under the luggage area.

Both cars use a 1.2-litre, 3-cylinder petrol engine that produces 72 BHP @ 6,000 rpm and 95 Nm @ 3,500 rpm in CNG mode. The engine is now available with a 5-speed AMT in addition to the standard 5-speed manual gearbox.

Tata Motors has also introduced three new colour options. The new Tornado Blue shade is available on the Tiago, Grassland Beige is a new option for the Tiago NRG, and the Tigor comes in a new Meteor Bronze shade.

Tata Tiago iCNG AMT ex-showroom prices:

  • XTA – Rs 7,89,900
  • XZA+ - Rs 8,79,900
  • XZA+ DT – Rs 8,89,900
  • XZA NRG – Rs 8,79,900

Tata Tigor iCNG AMT ex-showroom prices:

  • XZA – Rs 8,84,900
  • XZA+ - Rs 9,54,900
 

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DIY: Changing the AMT hydraulic oil on my Tata Tiago

I also believe owners of Maruti AMT/AGS would also benefit from this DIY.

BHPian lemedico recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Welcome back to another fruitful DIY on my car. This time, it is something that no Tata service centre would recommend doing, as it does not come under any scheduled service intervals. I believe the word "lifetime" fluid is a scam, only to cause deliberate mechanical failure and then profitable repairs to the company. No fluid can last a lifetime of the vehicle's running. All deterioration and putting in new oils have never backfired on me.

The AMT kit on the Tata cars is manufactured by Magnetti Marelli. There is a reservoir which holds around 500ml of fluid. Thankfully, it is easy to access on the Tiago/Tigor. I have not seen the engine bays of the Punch or Nexon, but I am assuming they are not too different and therefore the steps of this DIY would be applicable to these two cars as well. I wouldn't think it is any different on the BS4/6 cars either. Mine is the 2021 BS6 though.

I also believe owners of Maruti AMT/AGS would also benefit from this DIY.

Inspired by this thread, and fed up with my current driving experience, I went about arranging the bits needed to change the oil.

Thankfully, Tata Motors happily sold me a container of 1 litre AMT hydraulic fluid marketed by Tata-Petronas. The owner's manual recommends Petronas Tutela CS Speed, but this packaging merely says Petronas and nothing else. It got me a bit worried but I went ahead with it anyway.

  1. The car, is parked for a few hours with the bonnet opened. If you open the driver's door, the AMT gets primed and the fluid from the reservoir is sucked internally. You need to avoid that by either opening the bonnet in advance or disconnecting the 12v battery in advance. Or like I did, open the bonnet from the passenger's side.
  2. A can of AMT Hydraulic oil. This cost me Rs. 903 from Tata, for 1 litre. They don't sell smaller volumes.
  3. A long flat-head screwdriver
  4. A long rubber tube. I used a medical thing called a Ryle's Tube.
  5. A 50cc syringe.
  6. Gloves
  7. A container to collect the waste oil for environmentally safe disposal.
  8. Someone to record your shenanigans!

Steps:

NOTE: This DIY cannot take out every last drop of old oil from the AMT kit. I plan to repeat the process in a few days. This would let the remaining old and the new oils mix. I would then remove all of it from the reservoir again and top it up with a fresh one. Hopefully, by this dilution method, I would get all the cruddy stuff out.

My personal recommendation, pair this DIY with a gear oil change. I am doing it today as part of my yearly oil service. I'll update the thread when it is done, to let you know just how smooth the drives have become now.

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Horrible experience with Tiago even before purchase, leaves me confused

If you remember, we didn't want a Tata because of the ASS, and now this!

BHPian MADisMynAMe recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Hello everyone,

If you remember, I was looking for a hatchback for the city under Rs 9 lakh. We had a lot of options and narrowed down on a Tata (rejected earlier due to a bad ASS experience) because of safety. We booked a Tata Tiago XZA+ in Arizona Blue in exchange for our Tata Nano and were waiting for the PDI, scheduled on 23rd February. Since we were on holiday, we asked them to postpone the date to the 25th. Till then, we were reading important PDI points to check when seeing the car.

On the 25th, when we asked if the car has arrived, we were displeased to know that the car had not arrived in the showroom. We then had to wait for another 2 days and the PDI was then rescheduled to the 27th at 10 am.

We then headed to the showroom for the PDI and we had to wait for two whole hours for our salesperson to arrive. And upon arrival, we were left shocked and annoyed.

The car was not at all in a factory-bought condition. It was full of scratches, paint chips and large uneven panel gaps of some sort. Heck, even the horn wiring was exposed at the end. I tried checking the VIN but it showed an error that the VIN is ignored or invalid.

If you remember, we didn't want a Tata because of the ASS, and now this! Seriously, how did the car even pass the QC test? Or is it even a car from the factory or a damaged vehicle in the yard which was being sold to us?

Now, we are in a dilemma whether to keep the booking and wait or shift to another car of another brand. And if we stay, do we change the colour of the car or keep the same colour? I would love our fellow BHPians to assist on this matter.

Attaching the pictures of the car below:

Here's what BHPian TSI_Exhaust had to say on the matter:

Not surprised at all. This forum is littered with stuff like this. Yes, no brand is perfect and much depends on the dealerships as well but when you don't see improvements over a considerable period of time you tend to give up on the brand.

This is yet another example showing that brands like TATA will never become 'global brands' and that they can barely please Indians at home at best (their best being pretty substandard and borderline acceptable).

Here's what BHPian saket77 had to say on the matter:

Though I am lenient with small scratches which look genuine on an otherwise new and perfect car, but if I were at your place, I would never accept this car. The scratches & worse- paint chips are far too many to be ignored. Looks like a badly handled car if it indeed came new. Results of VIN search as shared by you increase the doubt. In such a case, I would walk away from even the sweetest of deals.

Here's what BHPian shancz had to say on the matter:

Walk away from this car is what I suggest.

Also a bit apprehensive about AMTs in general and especially Tata due to forum reports of faults and Tata's service compounding the issue. Not trying to dissuade you, Tiago in its manual avatar is an excellent do it all car, but the AMT is a concern.

I read your post on 3rd Feb regarding your decision about going with the Tiago AMT. If you've made up your mind then you can disregard my previous suggestion.

But definitely get another car, this one hasn't been kept well at the very least.

Here's what BHPian anand.shankar82 had to say on the matter:

As a Tiago XZA owner, I will sincerely and humbly suggest you walk away from Tata and get any other AMT/CVT.

In the 4 years, I have owned mine, it has rusted, rattled, had electrical issues, left me stranded many times, and had an AMT failure already list is endless. Nowadays, I travel with an entire set of fuses and have just learnt to ignore all the annoying noises coming out of every nook-and-cranny of the car

It may be my particular car is a lemon but my advice is to give Tata a miss if you can still do so. Any Maruti/Hyundai will be a way better option (I still repent not having gone with a WagonR AMT or Santro AMT when I was purchasing)

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2 years & 15,000 km with a Tata Tiago AMT

I added strings to the parcel shelf. These are meant for Altroz. But the mounting pin is same and compatible with Tiago.

BHPian janakiram_m recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Update : 2 Years and 15,000 kms.

Manjadikuru turned two the past week!

A rollercoaster of an year for us as a family and Manjadikuru was a witness for all of it.

-Soon after my last update, went to one of our neighborhood beaches, Aayiramthengu.

-After that the second wave of Covid -19 hit us in April. Me and my wife along with my parents tested positive and it was a frightening situation at that time. After the quarantine I went out and fired her up and let her bask in the sun. She was the one who took us to hospital and in a sense she was in quarantine too.

- The first wound. I have not bothered fixing this till now. On the floorboard at passenger side. I was navigating through a narrow lane and some debris on the side of the road caused this. Overestimated the GC.

- Crossed 10,000kms on August 7th.

- An outing along with my buddies to Ponmudi. The car might be thinking if I don't know any other hill station.

The fog lights were used for it's intended purpose for the first time. There was only moderate fog. I was not able to assess their effectiveness due to little traffic and it was daytime.

- Ooh Fancy 11111 on September 27th. Unfortunately 12345 was missed because I was on a call when odo ticked over.

- Newest addition to the family garage finally came for a visit from Kozhikode. Highline+ AT. Sorry for the eye sore bumper guards, it's been removed after my stern advice.

- Changed the wipers myself. Ordered Bosch ones from Boodmo. Old and New.

- Added strings to the parcel shelf. These are meant for Altroz. But the mounting pin is same and compatible with Tiago. I had to drill a hole each on each side on the parcel shelf. I would have preferred the ball type hanging strings but couldn't find any. These strings kind of curve in after closing the boot.

Part Numbers for the Pin/Button:

267869106376

267869106375

Both of these are needed for each side.

- At my father's ancestral home. It was quite difficult to park like this because of incline when reversing and short space. Along with that, AMT disengaging with the slightest touch of the brake pedal. Reminds me of this bit from top gear.

-Crossed 12,000kms on December 11. You guys might notice the black tape I put on top of the instant fuel economy meter. Driving has been so pleasurable since I did this. Driving my brother's Polo reminded me of how I was changing my driving style for squeezing out more kmpl than smiles per litre. Hands down most essential mod I have done in the car.

- The broken RHS ORVM indicator was changed as a DIY. Boodmo had free delivery during Diwali time and had placed order for the same. Removing the cowl is tricky but the rest is plug and play.

Part No. for the indicator 542781100143.

Just two screws and the connector pin.

- And finally the garage mates waiting nervously at the hospital parking. I waited the same way in front of the labour room! Yes! We have been blessed with a baby girl.

- Got our little bundle of joy home in Manjadikuru. She travelled in the rear seat for the short journey home from the hospital.

- And with that back to work. Open parking at my current lodging area. Since there is no shade, I contemplated buying a cover for so long and ordered one this week.

- Ever since the kid was born, my fortnightly run to hometown has become weekly. And the last 1000km was the fastest yet.

  • Fuel Economy has stayed consistent since the first oil change. MID shows 20-22 kmpl on 100% highway runs and drops to 19-18 kmpl on the last stretch when entering the city. MID is about 1.5-2kmpl optimistic.Pure City drives with heavy traffic shows MID readings of 10-11 kmpl and with light traffic shows 13-15 kmpl.My tank to tank reading have gotten me the highest of 18.35kmpl since last update.
  • After the last update went in for two services, the six month minor checkup and the annual service. Both with Trivandum Motors. I was billed ₹826 and ₹4170 respectively. The latter bill includes oil, oil filter and brake fluid.I don't opt for wash and wheel alignment at the ASC. And I always tell them not to add anything including windshield washer fluids without me knowing. My experience with the particular ASC has been great and hoping it continues to do so.
  • Wheel alignment and balancing was done at 10k kms. The next one is now due.
  • Insurance for the year was renewed at ₹8,004. Cashless with Oriental Insurance Co. for one year Standalone B2B.

Now for the parting shot, chillin with big bro at home.

Odo @ 15120 kms.

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Tata Tiago XTA variant launched at Rs. 5.99 lakh

The XTA is the new entry-level AMT variant of the Tiago.

Tata Motors has launched a new variant of the Tiago called the XTA. This variant costs Rs. 5.99 lakh (ex-showroom, Delhi).

The Tiago XTA comes equipped with a ConnectNext infotainment system by Harman with Bluetooth connectivity, a multi-function steering wheel, electric adjustment for ORVM and a digital instrument cluster.

Standard safety features include ABS with EBD and Corner Stability Control, dual airbags and rear parking sensors with display, among others.

The Tiago XTA is powered by a 1.2-litre, 3-cylinder petrol engine that produces 85 BHP and 113 Nm. The engine is paired with a 5-speed automated manual transmission. AMT is also available in XZA, XZA+ trims.

 

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Tata Tiago facelift launched at Rs. 4.60 lakh

Tata Motors has launched the Tiago facelift priced from Rs. 4.60 lakh (ex-showroom).

The refreshed Tiago comes with a new front grille finished in gloss black and a chrome strip. The car has redesigned headlamp clusters and a new front bumper with a reworked air dam and circular fog lamps. The car also gets black ORVMS as well as blacked-out B-pillars. It rides on dual-tone alloy wheels.

On the inside, the Tiago comes equipped with a touchscreen infotainment head-unit that is compatible with Android Auto and Apple CarPlay. Other features include automatic climate control, power folding ORVMs, digital instrument cluster and drive modes.

The new Tiago is powered by a BS6-compliant 1.2-litre, 3-cylinder petrol engine that produces 85 BHP and 113 Nm. It is paired with either a 5-speed manual or 5-speed automated manual transmission (AMT). Tata no longer offers the 1.05-litre diesel engine in the Tiago.

 

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Tata Tiago spotted in new top-spec trim

A recent spy image suggests that Tata Motors could be planning to launch a new top-spec variant of the Tiago.

A test mule was recently spotted near the Tata Motors plant in Pune. It can be seen sporting 15-inch dual-tone alloy wheels from the Tigor petrol. Additionally, it appears to have projector headlamps and a revised grille. The car has black B-pillars and a partially blacked-out C-pillar similar to the Tiago NRG. It has a black roof and black ORVMs with integrated turn signals. The car also has a set of fog lamps and black side mouldings. On the interior, it might receive an updated dashboard with a larger touchscreen infotainment system.

The car is likely to be offered with the current set of engines, which include a 1.2-litre, 3-cylinder petrol that makes 84 BHP @ 6,000 rpm and 114 Nm of torque @ 3,500 rpm and a 1.05-litre, 3-cylinder diesel engine which puts out 69 BHP @ 4,000 rpm and 140 Nm @ 1,800-3,000 rpm. A 5-speed manual transmission is offered as standard, while a 5-speed AMT is optionally available on the petrol version.

Source: Autocar India

 

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Tata Motors launches Tiago AMT in Bangladesh

Tata Motors has launched the automated manual transmission (AMT) version of the Tiago in Bangladesh. It is offered in XTA trim and is priced at 14.95 lakh Takka (ex-showroom, Dhaka).

The Tiago AMT available in Bangladesh is identical to the XTA variant of the car sold in India. The car comes with a gloss black honeycomb grille flanked by wraparound headlamps, roof spoiler with integrated high and mounted stop lamp. Inside, the car gets a three-spoke steering wheel, twin-pod instrument cluster with 2.5-inch MID and ConnectNext infotainment system by Harman with Juke-Car App and turn-by-turn navigation.

The Tiago AMT is powered by a 1.2-litre, 3-cylinder petrol engine that produces 84 BHP @ 6,000 rpm and 114 Nm of peak torque @ 3,500 rpm. It has two driving modes - Sports and City. The engine is paired with a 5-speed automated manual transmission which has a 'creep' function. There is no manual transmission or diesel variant available like the Indian Tiago. 

In Bangladesh, the Tiago AMT is available in 6 exterior colour options - Striker Blue, Berry Red, Sunburst Orange, Espresso Brown, Pearlescent White and Platinum Silver. Tata offers a 3 years / 1,00,000 km warranty on the Tiago AMT in addition to 6 free services.

 

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Tata Tiago AMT now in XTA trim at Rs. 4.79 lakh

Tata Tiago AMT will now be offered in the XT trim (XTA) at a price of Rs. 4.79 lakh (ex-showroom Delhi). 

Tata had launched the AMT version of the Tiago in March 2017 only with the top-end XZ trim (XZA). We recently reported that the Tiago AMT will be offered in a lower trim (XT). The XTA has now been included in the price list of the Tiago on the official website. The XTA variant will be available at Rs. 46,500 less than the XZA trim.

The Tiago XTA gets most of the features from top-spec XZA trim except for some, including - steering mounted phone and audio controls, auto down window on driver's side, cooled glove box, boot lamp, LED turn signal on ORVM, fog lamps, rear wiper, washer and defogger. The XTA variant doesn't get alloy wheels, ABS with EBD and corner stability control either while dual airbags are available as an option. 

The Tiago XTA is equipped with a 1,199cc, 3-cylinder petrol engine that delivers 83 BHP @ 6,000 rpm and 114 Nm @ 3,500 rpm. The engine is mated to a 5-speed AMT which comes with a manual shift mode. It also comes with a creep function that enables the car to crawl forward as soon as the brake pedal is released. The Tiago AMT further comes with 2 driving modes - Sport and City.

The Tata Tiago AMT competes with the Maruti Suzuki Celerio AMT which is priced in the range of Rs. 4.49 - 5.24 lakh (ex-showroom Delhi).

 

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Rumour: Tata to launch Tiago AMT in XTA variant

Thanks to the Team-BHP fan (he prefers to remain anonymous) for sharing this information with other enthusiasts via this page!

Tata had launched the Tiago AMT in March 2017 only in the top-end XZ variant (XZA) in its petrol guise (not diesel). Now, the Indian manufacturer might offer AMT in the lower XT trim as well. The Tiago AMT in XT variant (XTA) is expected to be launched in the second or third week of September this year. The company plans to produce 300 units of the Tiago XTA for the month of August and the production will be increased to 500 units in the coming months. We've been told that the XZA has very low volumes, and Tata hopes that the XTA will improve the automatic's sales. 

The Tiago XT misses out on quite a bit of features over the XZ variant. These include steering mounted audio & phone controls, ABS with EBD & corner stability control, front fog lamps, rear wiper and defogger, ORVMs with LED turn signals and alloy wheels. Currently, the XZA variant is offered at a premium of Rs. 34,000 over the XZ Manual transmission model. The same premium is expected on the Tiago XTA variant as well. We had recently reported that Tata might also introduce a Limited Edition Tiago

Currently, the Tiago XZA is offered only with a Petrol engine mated to a 5-speed AMT gearbox. The 1,199cc, 3-cylinder Revotron engine makes 83 BHP @ 6,000 rpm and has a peak torque of 114 Nm @ 3,500 rpm.

 

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