LPG @ Rs. 32.55, is it worth it ? Edit: now Rs.36.20

HIGHNOON · 6th April 2009, 22:51

Hi,
For most users LPg conversion is means of saving on fuel cost. A perfectly tuned LPG kit performs exceptionally well. And believe me with due respect to bhp figures , the performance on lpg is actually a shade better than on petrol. Atleast for my car it is. On LPG the car has got enough power most of the time. Practically no knocking even if you find yourself in a wrong gear once in a while. Pulls cleanly without strain.
So sporty performance modification on LPG ? Interesting... but a bit of paradox !
i would need to spend quite some money which would negate all i would save on the fuel . Plus in most cases of open loop systems , frequent tune ups to the gas air combos are required.
As far as i know possible. But Long term reliabilty.... that maybe a different storey altogether...
Maybe a high end sequential gas injection kit would be a better bet for a good modern mpfi.

BTW latest fig.
316 km - 26.5 lit = 11.92 kmpl with 168 km in Mumbai and 148 km on highway @ Rs.25.92 / lit

Rs.2 and paise 17for every km of fuel cost!!! Diesel ( economy.... )territory buddy

ask77 · 7th April 2009, 09:56

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Originally Posted by HIGHNOON

Hi,
For most users LPg conversion is means of saving on fuel cost. A perfectly tuned LPG kit performs exceptionally well. And believe me with due respect to bhp figures , the performance on lpg is actually a shade better than on petrol. Atleast for my car it is. On LPG the car has got enough power most of the time. Practically no knocking even if you find yourself in a wrong gear once in a while. Pulls cleanly without strain.
So sporty performance modification on LPG ? Interesting... but a bit of paradox !
i would need to spend quite some money which would negate all i would save on the fuel . Plus in most cases of open loop systems , frequent tune ups to the gas air combos are required.
As far as i know possible. But Long term reliabilty.... that maybe a different storey altogether...
Maybe a high end sequential gas injection kit would be a better bet for a good modern mpfi.

BTW latest fig.
316 km - 26.5 lit = 11.92 kmpl with 168 km in Mumbai and 148 km on highway @ Rs.25.92 / lit

Rs.2 and paise 17for every km of fuel cost!!! Diesel ( economy.... )territory buddy

I second that . My optra performs much better on LPG than on petrol . At first I used to think that is because maybe the injectors get choked or perform not so well due to regular use of LPG but I got the injectors and the throttle body cleaned but even then the smoothness and performance on LPG was clearly noticeable . I think that this is due to the higher octane ratings of LPG combined with higher compression ratios of modern engine which now come built with anti-knock sensors and adjust automatically to the quality of fuel available

HIGHNOON · 9th April 2009, 17:31

hi
Another thing i would like to add is that i have done 25000km on LPG now and the car seems as good as it was at the time of acquisition. Still very smooth.
Another 50k possible ? reliabilty wise ? hope so......
The engine still seems fresh @ 50850 km , atleast no apperent effects of the gas. I still maintain a 6000 km / 6 months interval even after shifting to gas. The oil seems quite ok but i do not want to take risk.
I drive a bit on petrol as well but stil have had to clean the injectors twice during the last 25k km.
I should have taken a compression test before retrofiting and one now to actually know the effects of use of the dry gas on the engine instead of petrol which has got great lubricity.
@ ask77, how much u've clocked after retrofitting ? Do you notice any loss in the motor performance , any increase in nvh ?
How often does the kit need resetting / tune up? Whether the kit needs tuneup @25000km. The manual says so but the fitter says otherwise.?
I am confused. Do u have any clue ?

ask77 · 9th April 2009, 23:17

I have done around 10K on my kit. The evaporator should be cleaned every year or so as preventive maintenance and maybe the filter inside the gas relay may need cleaning and of course it is important to have a clean air filter at all times but otherwise hardly anything in the kit to maintain . Is your check engine light coming on ? usually if the CEL lights up frequently then only the kit needs maintenance

JayD · 26th May 2010, 11:05

Sorry for bumping up an old thread, but what is the current price of auto lpg?

rajesh1868 · 30th May 2010, 14:31

around 33 in bangalore. Dont remember the exact price

coolclouds · 10th December 2011, 10:15

Can anyone update the gas price in Bangalore?

Aroy · 10th December 2011, 12:23

Unlike CNG, LPG is a derivative of crude oil, hence its price will keep in synch with crude prices. CNG is a different product and priced differently. From what I have read (having no direct experience in LPG cars), the FE in an LPG car is roughly half that of a factory fitted diesel, so the cost per kilometer will be pretty same at the current prices. In such a scenario I would prefer a diesel as that would give me both mobility and protection from a fire in case of rear ended collision.

nanduchitnis · 10th December 2011, 19:09

Pune LPG is around Rs 40/- per liter or is it kg? Petrol is around Rs 70/-

I have a factory fitted Wagon R for Pune city driving last 3 years and am totally satisfied. No issue with engine/clogged spark plugs.

Savings are great. Milage is 12.4/ltr.

ajitsank · 29th December 2011, 09:37

Please let me know a good place in Hyderabad/Secunderabad to convert my Swift Zxi to Gas. Some idea on the cost of conversion would be also welcome

deehunk · 1st January 2014, 17:33

The AutoLPG price has been increased by Rs.11.5 and the price stands at Rs.66.5 today in Bangalore, I fail to understand the logic behind the price hike as Auto rickshaws are dependent on LPG alone, this hike will have an impact on their operating cost. The minimum fare was increased to Rs.25 in Bangalore and the per kilometer cost was increased to Rs.13, is the hike done to give more profits to Oil companies which are white elephants. With the current pricing the running cost of LPG vehicles becomes more than petrol vehicles, is the resonsibility factor of promoting cleaner fuel missing with the policy makers?

6th April 2009, 22:51	#136
HIGHNOON BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Navi MUMBAI Posts: 491 Thanked: 70 Times	Hi, For most users LPg conversion is means of saving on fuel cost. A perfectly tuned LPG kit performs exceptionally well. And believe me with due respect to bhp figures , the performance on lpg is actually a shade better than on petrol. Atleast for my car it is. On LPG the car has got enough power most of the time. Practically no knocking even if you find yourself in a wrong gear once in a while. Pulls cleanly without strain. So sporty performance modification on LPG ? Interesting... but a bit of paradox ! i would need to spend quite some money which would negate all i would save on the fuel . Plus in most cases of open loop systems , frequent tune ups to the gas air combos are required. As far as i know possible. But Long term reliabilty.... that maybe a different storey altogether... Maybe a high end sequential gas injection kit would be a better bet for a good modern mpfi. BTW latest fig. 316 km - 26.5 lit = 11.92 kmpl with 168 km in Mumbai and 148 km on highway @ Rs.25.92 / lit Rs.2 and paise 17for every km of fuel cost!!! Diesel ( economy.... )territory buddy Last edited by HIGHNOON : 6th April 2009 at 23:07.
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9th April 2009, 17:31	#138
HIGHNOON BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Navi MUMBAI Posts: 491 Thanked: 70 Times	hi Another thing i would like to add is that i have done 25000km on LPG now and the car seems as good as it was at the time of acquisition. Still very smooth. Another 50k possible ? reliabilty wise ? hope so...... The engine still seems fresh @ 50850 km , atleast no apperent effects of the gas. I still maintain a 6000 km / 6 months interval even after shifting to gas. The oil seems quite ok but i do not want to take risk. I drive a bit on petrol as well but stil have had to clean the injectors twice during the last 25k km. I should have taken a compression test before retrofiting and one now to actually know the effects of use of the dry gas on the engine instead of petrol which has got great lubricity. @ ask77, how much u've clocked after retrofitting ? Do you notice any loss in the motor performance , any increase in nvh ? How often does the kit need resetting / tune up? Whether the kit needs tuneup @25000km. The manual says so but the fitter says otherwise.? I am confused. Do u have any clue ?
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9th April 2009, 23:17	#139
ask77 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Agra Posts: 148 Thanked: 25 Times	I have done around 10K on my kit. The evaporator should be cleaned every year or so as preventive maintenance and maybe the filter inside the gas relay may need cleaning and of course it is important to have a clean air filter at all times but otherwise hardly anything in the kit to maintain . Is your check engine light coming on ? usually if the CEL lights up frequently then only the kit needs maintenance
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26th May 2010, 11:05	#140
JayD Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cochin! At last Posts: 3,235 Thanked: 2,616 Times View My Garage	Sorry for bumping up an old thread, but what is the current price of auto lpg?
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30th May 2010, 14:31	#141
rajesh1868 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 515134 Posts: 350 Thanked: 387 Times	around 33 in bangalore. Dont remember the exact price
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10th December 2011, 10:15	#142
coolclouds Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Garden City Posts: 1,800 Thanked: 519 Times	Re: LPG @ Rs. 32.55, is it worth it ? Edit: now Rs.36.20 Can anyone update the gas price in Bangalore?
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10th December 2011, 12:23	#143
Aroy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Delhi Posts: 2,615 Thanked: 3,038 Times View My Garage	Re: LPG @ Rs. 32.55, is it worth it ? Edit: now Rs.36.20 Unlike CNG, LPG is a derivative of crude oil, hence its price will keep in synch with crude prices. CNG is a different product and priced differently. From what I have read (having no direct experience in LPG cars), the FE in an LPG car is roughly half that of a factory fitted diesel, so the cost per kilometer will be pretty same at the current prices. In such a scenario I would prefer a diesel as that would give me both mobility and protection from a fire in case of rear ended collision.
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10th December 2011, 19:09	#144
nanduchitnis BHPian Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 494 Thanked: 301 Times	Re: LPG @ Rs. 32.55, is it worth it ? Edit: now Rs.36.20 Pune LPG is around Rs 40/- per liter or is it kg? Petrol is around Rs 70/- I have a factory fitted Wagon R for Pune city driving last 3 years and am totally satisfied. No issue with engine/clogged spark plugs. Savings are great. Milage is 12.4/ltr. Last edited by nanduchitnis : 10th December 2011 at 19:17.
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29th December 2011, 09:37	#145
ajitsank BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Secunderabad Posts: 122 Thanked: 24 Times	Re: LPG @ Rs. 32.55, is it worth it ? Edit: now Rs.36.20 Please let me know a good place in Hyderabad/Secunderabad to convert my Swift Zxi to Gas. Some idea on the cost of conversion would be also welcome
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1st January 2014, 17:33	#146
deehunk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,051 Thanked: 3,312 Times Infractions: 0/1 (5)	Re: LPG @ Rs. 32.55, is it worth it ? Edit: now Rs.36.20 The AutoLPG price has been increased by Rs.11.5 and the price stands at Rs.66.5 today in Bangalore, I fail to understand the logic behind the price hike as Auto rickshaws are dependent on LPG alone, this hike will have an impact on their operating cost. The minimum fare was increased to Rs.25 in Bangalore and the per kilometer cost was increased to Rs.13, is the hike done to give more profits to Oil companies which are white elephants. With the current pricing the running cost of LPG vehicles becomes more than petrol vehicles, is the resonsibility factor of promoting cleaner fuel missing with the policy makers?
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