Overheating problem in Jeep

DirtyDan · 22nd August 2008, 09:11

The head gasket leak must have been very small else you would have had no trouble figuring out the problem yourself. The symptoms would have been more obvious.

Behram to the rescue! Well done, clever fox.

Samurai · 23rd August 2008, 17:50

First let me drop the sir and ji since Beham is only 23, by the way I am 18 going by that logic.

I got my Jeep yesterday, I couldn't reply since I was busy. The total bill came Rs.38960 thanks to two pages of spares parts.

They forgot to do the radiator measurements. So I measured the radiator thickness using my son's scale. I measured everything in millimeter to get maximum accuracy.

Height: 310mm
Width: 470mm
Thickness: 40mm
Vertical pipe thickness: 2mm (55 pipes in total)
Gap between vertical pipes: 7mm
Gap between horizontal fins: 4mm

Regarding the cublic capacity of the radiator, they didn't measure, and I am stuck there.

headers · 23rd August 2008, 19:56

The radiator capacity must be around 15 litres IMO

tsk1979 · 24th August 2008, 02:02

Samurai, you are an engineer, but looks like MBA has robbed you of your engineering skills. Fill water in radiator, that will tell you cubic capacity. Simple

sudev · 24th August 2008, 07:37

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

Samurai, you are an engineer, but looks like MBA has robbed you of your engineering skills. Fill water in radiator, that will tell you cubic capacity. Simple

ROTFLMAO

Simple and effective.

Samurai · 24th August 2008, 09:04

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

Samurai, you are an engineer, but looks like MBA has robbed you of your engineering skills. Fill water in radiator, that will tell you cubic capacity. Simple

My hands-on engineering skills are not in automobiles, but software design.

I thought about doing it, but I am not exactly sure I'll put back the radiator hose back in correctly after draining it.

dinar · 24th August 2008, 10:47

Hey, did u have a chance yet to test the Jeep up hill?

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 24th August 2008, 10:59

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

Fill water in radiator, that will tell you cubic capacity. Simple

Depending on how he fills it. If can locate the drain nut (if there is one) on the bottom reservoir of the radiator, he may get an accurate reading - provided water from block etc. does not come back into the radiator when it goes empty.

@samurai, pulling out the hoses should not be a big deal. There will be a clip whre the hose connects with the radiator. Loosen it with a screwdriver. There will be a screwdriver controlled "lock" mechanism to tighten the hose. Just loosen the screw and pull out the hose. This will require some brawn power. You are dealing with fabric lined 1/4 inch (approx) thick rubber.

While putting it back, make sure there is enough overlap between the rubber and the place where the tube connects (1 1/2 inch or more); and make sure the ciip is real tight. Once the job is finished, have a good look at the points you have tinkered with while the engine is running.

DHABHAR.BEHRAM · 28th August 2008, 09:31

Dear Samurai - Radiator is not original, fin density is very poor, your data clearly says so. Please change it. Richie's guys will help you out with an original one, I will try and see if I can get you the part number.

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

Samurai · 28th August 2008, 10:29

OK Behram, I'll talk to them. May be this is what caused the excessive heating that cracked the head.

I also need to talk to them to get a letter stating the invoice value of a 1994 CJ340 DP model. I can't register without it.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-old-jeep.html

Rudra Sen · 28th August 2008, 11:08

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Originally Posted by DHABHAR.BEHRAM

Dear Samurai - Radiator is not original, fin density is very poor, your data clearly says so. Please change it. Richie's guys will help you out with an original one, I will try and see if I can get you the part number.

Go for a new one Sharath. I told you about this before. Second hand or local made radiator is always a suspect.

DHABHAR.BEHRAM · 28th August 2008, 13:57

Dear Sharath - when I purchased my brand new CL340DP4WD (MH01P8300) on 3 January 1995, I paid Rs.2,69, 292.00 on the road in Mumbai. Just for your information, it may come useful to you. Also for your information, I sold my car exactly one year afterwards as I needed the money for my house (sob sob).

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

Samurai · 28th August 2008, 14:18

The plate behind the steering on my Jeep says CJ340DP, may be because it was CJ until 1994? So I should be able to get an invoice statement to that effect from the local dealer right? I'll call them anyway.

I asked the Mahindra service advisor to order the original radiator, and I also asked my town mechanic to take back the radiator he put.

headers · 3rd September 2008, 10:51

Ok, so howz the jeep going Samurai? Overheating issue sorted?

GTO - Touring · 4th September 2008, 12:39

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OK Behram, I'll talk to them. May be this is what caused the excessive heating that cracked the head.

Head could also have cracked if cold water had been poured into an overheated engine, and the engine wasn't running.

22nd August 2008, 09:11	#136
DirtyDan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dharamsala, H.P Posts: 2,107 Thanked: 1,664 Times	The head gasket leak must have been very small else you would have had no trouble figuring out the problem yourself. The symptoms would have been more obvious. Behram to the rescue! Well done, clever fox.
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23rd August 2008, 17:50	#137
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 26,002 Thanked: 49,712 Times View My Garage	First let me drop the sir and ji since Beham is only 23, by the way I am 18 going by that logic. I got my Jeep yesterday, I couldn't reply since I was busy. The total bill came Rs.38960 thanks to two pages of spares parts. They forgot to do the radiator measurements. So I measured the radiator thickness using my son's scale. I measured everything in millimeter to get maximum accuracy. Height: 310mm Width: 470mm Thickness: 40mm Vertical pipe thickness: 2mm (55 pipes in total) Gap between vertical pipes: 7mm Gap between horizontal fins: 4mm Regarding the cublic capacity of the radiator, they didn't measure, and I am stuck there.
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23rd August 2008, 19:56	#138
headers Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Greater Chennai Posts: 4,667 Thanked: 564 Times	The radiator capacity must be around 15 litres IMO
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24th August 2008, 02:02	#139
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,695 Thanked: 23,484 Times View My Garage	Samurai, you are an engineer, but looks like MBA has robbed you of your engineering skills. Fill water in radiator, that will tell you cubic capacity. Simple
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24th August 2008, 10:47	#142
dinar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: goa Posts: 1,066 Thanked: 57 Times	Hey, did u have a chance yet to test the Jeep up hill?
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28th August 2008, 09:31	#144
DHABHAR.BEHRAM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 3,060 Thanked: 5,406 Times	Dear Samurai - Radiator is not original, fin density is very poor, your data clearly says so. Please change it. Richie's guys will help you out with an original one, I will try and see if I can get you the part number. Best regards, Behram Dhabhar
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28th August 2008, 10:29	#145
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 26,002 Thanked: 49,712 Times View My Garage	OK Behram, I'll talk to them. May be this is what caused the excessive heating that cracked the head. I also need to talk to them to get a letter stating the invoice value of a 1994 CJ340 DP model. I can't register without it. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-old-jeep.html
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28th August 2008, 13:57	#147
DHABHAR.BEHRAM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 3,060 Thanked: 5,406 Times	Dear Sharath - when I purchased my brand new CL340DP4WD (MH01P8300) on 3 January 1995, I paid Rs.2,69, 292.00 on the road in Mumbai. Just for your information, it may come useful to you. Also for your information, I sold my car exactly one year afterwards as I needed the money for my house (sob sob). Best regards, Behram Dhabhar
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28th August 2008, 14:18	#148
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 26,002 Thanked: 49,712 Times View My Garage	The plate behind the steering on my Jeep says CJ340DP, may be because it was CJ until 1994? So I should be able to get an invoice statement to that effect from the local dealer right? I'll call them anyway. I asked the Mahindra service advisor to order the original radiator, and I also asked my town mechanic to take back the radiator he put. Last edited by Samurai : 28th August 2008 at 14:23.
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3rd September 2008, 10:51	#149
headers Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Greater Chennai Posts: 4,667 Thanked: 564 Times	Ok, so howz the jeep going Samurai? Overheating issue sorted?
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