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1) Both crankcases look same but there are differences in them. I just had a look at the drawings of the crankcase and oil sump of both these models in question, and they are different. Only thing I can state is the NEF variant is more bulky. 2) Arka, your observation regarding the movement of pumpkin is correct. Ironically, the movement mentioned by you translates into 2.1 mm (nominal). For an assembly of this size a dimension of 2.1 mm will be fired even due to the tolerance stack up built into the design. So that movement is inconsequential. Spike ![]() | |||
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() I did have the privilage of spending alot of quality time with the Thar and it did leave me with a lot of doubts and the biggest one was IS THE PRICE JUSTIFIED for this ?. I would have to say if the car delivered to the customer is anything like the car i spent time with then a BIG NO. |
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Team-BHP Support ![]() ![]() | ![]() Fact is, the Thar addresses the needs of a larger market segment than a hard-core offroader. Is the front IFS a deal breaker to guys like Arka? You bet. Would I trade my Classic for a Thar? Over my dead body. However, we have to understand that 90% of the market out there is willing to accept a vehicle that gives away 20% in offroading prowess, for 200% better on-road manners. I can confirm that the Thar drives like no other Mahindra Jeep on the road. ZERO turbo-lag, surprisingly good ride quality, 5 speed box with overdrive and a nippy power steering for the city. Those who want a Jeep that's easier to live with, will choose a Thar 99 times out of 100 over an MM540 / Classic. Hey, it can even offroad 80% of the way that a solid axle can. And believe me, for the masses, that's more capability than they'd ever need. Then, look at it this way : The Thar offers a package that didn't exist before. If you want a harsh, albeit competent, off-roader, go buy a brand new Gypsy. Spend a little more and you can even get yourself a Gurkha. Lastly, offroading is NOT a cheap sport. I blow away a lot of money on my Jeep year after year. Even if the 6 lakh rupee Thar had a solid axle front, I'd much rather go and abuse my ol' Jeep on the rocks than a shiny new one. From the business perspective, M&M have made the right decision. From the perspective of MOST car buyers in India, the Thar's independent front is more suited. I continue to insist that the Thar is a winner. P.S. Is the Thar perfect? Hell NO! I simply do not understand in which century Mahindra lives in. The fit, finish & ergonomics are APPALLING. |
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That said, the package is a disappointment. For me, at least, the kind of money it would require to deck it up properly would make sense only as a primary vehicle. The only thing that can change that impression would be how the vehicle is to own over an extended period of time. If it performs well and is trouble-free - i.e, if it becomes a bit of a legend - a lot will be forgiven and rather quickly. | |
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![]() I am not talking offroading at all, she did well even with the HT tyres that she had on. A hand full of people will offroad with the Thar. The bulk of the buyer would use the car on tarmac or at the most dirt roads. The car is perfectly suited to drive you through effortlessly and in comfort. This car is a winner for the ones who have the money and want a hassle free experience. My point of the price being justified for a normal person with the kind of fit and finish of the car. There are things i noticed, that made me feel a local garage guy would do a better job. Now if you ask me I would be spending 7 lakhs to buy it and then another few lakhs more to get it to my liking for offroading. There would be many things that i would be removing from the car and yes the warrenty would be void for sure. I do offroad with the fortuner, so in comparrision the Thar is easier on the pockets. Last edited by speedy : 31st December 2010 at 17:24. | |
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| ![]() Yesterday, I was so sad because I sold my lancer and My Jeep. Lancer went with the new owner (Tear drops came from my eye and from my heart) Yesterday Itself and Jeep today morning. I directly went to the Calicut Mahindra dealer and I took a test drive Its not the best but Its best for The price, if can live with the fit and finish. I can get a good used 2-4 year old Safari 4X4 or even 10-12 Year old pajero for this price But I don't have that much money to take it Off the road so Its the best I can buy.I am going to Buy One. Not for driving to a Mall or cinema or attract some one but for my daily use I have a 2WD scorpio for that . Do I need to wait for the 2011 Batch ? Is it worth waiting ? Sales Manager told me that Usually new Year batch comes after March is it true ? ![]() |
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| ![]() You have booked a CRDe or a DI version? Spike PS- Sree, call me, need to talk. |
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expect the production of 2011 to start in late january or feb and expect the new 2011 stock with the dealers by later march or april. | |
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Trust me. I know some insiders. | |
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but i doubt if you could launch a vehicle in 2011, manufactured in 2010! if some OEMs start making them in 2010 and then sell them as 2011, it's CHEATING! | |
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![]() ![]() You know another guy who will have a field day modding the Thar? Its Allan ! He's got all the creativity and talent and we should watch out for some wild stuff from him !! | |
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My thoughts exactly !! I was waiting to see if Allan has something planned out for making a Wrangler out of the Thar. If yes - what the cost might be ?? Cheers | |
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The Wrangler look is already done on the same chassis (barring the personal preferences on mechanical specs). Think its on the classifieds now too. What we need from Allan is something more different and unique!. I love all things DIY and cant wait to see what Allan comes up with. |
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Thank you DKG. You wont have to wait long, Allan and me are doing my car together. |
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I can already think of a few mods: Side steps go Better arch flares rake for front windshield remove b pillar remove window frames sturdier rollbar, padded with soft foam rubber smart alloys kickass mud groove tyres winch jerry can forward facing seat in rear nice audio Last edited by DKG : 1st January 2011 at 14:10. | |
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