New ICE products for 2007.

vezj420 · 24th June 2007, 01:10

Hi guys...I'm gonna be in the market for a new ICE rig soon, but my preferences now have been heavily influenced by the fact that I recently got a 30 GB iPod video.

Therefore, I need a HU that will support iPod control + charging seamlessly with a minimum of fuss. (searching brought me to this thread for this purpose!)

Now, I already know about the availability of the (recent) Pioneer HUs that support iPod control through the external adapter of theirs. Does anyone have experience with this setup? How is it when it comes to sound quality and ergonomics of controlling the iPod thru the HU? And finally, what can I expect to pay for such a setup (that is, HU + iPod adapter)?

Net searches got me drooling over the recent and new Alpine HUs that have seamless iPod control (using what they call a 'full speed' control adapter):

Alpine Electronics of America, Inc.
(check out any of the "Made for iPod" HUs!)

The unfortunate thing is, the two places I've been to recently in Bangalore have stopped dealing in Alpine products for some reason...

soooo...

Who knows where I can get a hold of these Alpine beauties and for how much??

Thanks in advance!

low_bass_makker · 24th June 2007, 01:32

I myself is using the pioneer HU and the interface is very good...I have not experienced the alpine one but the pioneer would be cheap when compared to the alpine...

the HU can be 6950 or 7950 and you will need a simple cable to connect the IPOD to the HU in both the cases.

hydrashok · 24th June 2007, 09:53

@vejz420, I've listened to the 9856 and 9857 (in TBHPian's cars) and those are killer HUs.

vezj420 · 24th June 2007, 16:22

Thanks for the replies, LBM and Hydrashok!

@LBM, what's the approx. cost of your Pio HU+adapter?

@Hydrashok, I'm guessing those are 2006-series HUs from Alpine...were those with the iPod control adapter? (Alpine has been making them since 2004, but the latest 'full-speed' adapter has only come out now)

low_bass_makker · 24th June 2007, 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by vezj420

Thanks for the replies, LBM and Hydrashok!

@LBM, what's the approx. cost of your Pio HU+adapter?

vezj420 · 24th June 2007, 17:14

whoa....with pics and specs too! thanks LBM! (don;t tell me u got both HUs, though?)

low_bass_makker · 24th June 2007, 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by vezj420

whoa....with pics and specs too! thanks LBM! (don;t tell me u got both HUs, though?)

No I dont have any of the above but I have this one...

DEH-P80RS

drumster · 24th June 2007, 17:56

None of those cables and adapters (that LBM has mentioned) are available in the market. Dont know about the HUs. The CD-IB100ii which is shown as 6,500 Rs. is an absolute rip-off. Its available for a max of $49 in the US. onsidering the current exchange rates it would be somewhere close to Rs. 2,000 Even if you get it shipped from there, it would be wayyy cheaper than 6,500. I dont know why Pioneer doesnt have any offices or authorized showrooms in India even though this is such a big market. I have ordered the CD-IB100ii from US. My friend bought it for $35... cheapest option

Raja_babu · 28th June 2007, 09:45

I have got a new Swift red 2007 Vxi. iam planning to buy an DVD/MP3 player for my car. Could anyone suggest which is the best place in chennai to fit car audio systems. Will the Pioneer AV unit suit for Swift . What are the necessary things needed. How much would it cost. I am new to the post. Can anyone please guide me .... Thanks in advance.

low_bass_makker · 28th June 2007, 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raja_babu

I have got a new Swift red 2007 Vxi. iam planning to buy an DVD/MP3 player for my car. Could anyone suggest which is the best place in chennai to fit car audio systems. Will the Pioneer AV unit suit for Swift . What are the necessary things needed. How much would it cost. I am new to the post. Can anyone please guide me .... Thanks in advance.

JVC make some DVD and MP3 HU and they are good VFM stuff check it out. Dont go for Sony.

vanchi_s · 23rd July 2007, 14:56

I am planning to buy Alpine CDE-9881, what is the price? Is it a good HU or shall I look for 9883 or 9885?

Based on features, I am fine with 9881 except remote.

clipto333 · 23rd July 2007, 20:09

hi guys,

i would say instead of throwing your 6500 on the ipod adapter, one should buy a pio grey HU with ipod control. that will cost around as much as the adapter itself or maybe a 1000 rs more

the adapter is a rip off. what pio is doing is, they know how big india as a market is for them. why would they want to sell officially when they know their products are selling well and they dont have to take care of the warranty issues and are saving on warranty costs?? they are smart.

will finish later
cheers
clip

razor4077 · 23rd July 2007, 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by drumster

None of those cables and adapters (that LBM has mentioned) are available in the market.

Not true. I've seen the interface cables. TBhpian Wimwian got it fitted recently with his 6950IB. Costs around 900 bucks.

I agree that the adapters are overpriced tho...

drumster · 24th July 2007, 14:02

I am getting the adapter shipped from US (a friend is carrying it along). Cost me USD 35. No shipping. Great deal, eh?

vezj420 · 24th July 2007, 19:36

Ok, so let me get this straight......

The majority of Pioneer HUs out there (the ones with the MP suffix) are able to control an iPod, but require the bulky external control adapter and cables.

The ones with the IB (iPod-Bus) suffix are capable of direct control of the iPod, requiring only the interface cable.

Correct??

So now, if I'm not mistaken, I should be looking into getting an IB model with direct iPod control...within these few, which would u guys recommend??

I think I'm finally seeing the light at the end of the Pioneer tunnel! (unless u guys say otherwise)

24th June 2007, 01:10	#121
vezj420 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 264 Thanked: 23 Times	Pioneer/Alpine HUs with iPod control Hi guys...I'm gonna be in the market for a new ICE rig soon, but my preferences now have been heavily influenced by the fact that I recently got a 30 GB iPod video. Therefore, I need a HU that will support iPod control + charging seamlessly with a minimum of fuss. (searching brought me to this thread for this purpose!) Now, I already know about the availability of the (recent) Pioneer HUs that support iPod control through the external adapter of theirs. Does anyone have experience with this setup? How is it when it comes to sound quality and ergonomics of controlling the iPod thru the HU? And finally, what can I expect to pay for such a setup (that is, HU + iPod adapter)? Net searches got me drooling over the recent and new Alpine HUs that have seamless iPod control (using what they call a 'full speed' control adapter): Alpine Electronics of America, Inc. (check out any of the "Made for iPod" HUs!) The unfortunate thing is, the two places I've been to recently in Bangalore have stopped dealing in Alpine products for some reason...soooo... Who knows where I can get a hold of these Alpine beauties and for how much?? Thanks in advance!
	() Thanks

24th June 2007, 01:32	#122
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,813 Thanked: 306 Times View My Garage	I myself is using the pioneer HU and the interface is very good...I have not experienced the alpine one but the pioneer would be cheap when compared to the alpine... the HU can be 6950 or 7950 and you will need a simple cable to connect the IPOD to the HU in both the cases.
	() Thanks

24th June 2007, 09:53	#123
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,527 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	@vejz420, I've listened to the 9856 and 9857 (in TBHPian's cars) and those are killer HUs.
	() Thanks

24th June 2007, 16:22	#124
vezj420 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 264 Thanked: 23 Times	Thanks for the replies, LBM and Hydrashok! @LBM, what's the approx. cost of your Pio HU+adapter? @Hydrashok, I'm guessing those are 2006-series HUs from Alpine...were those with the iPod control adapter? (Alpine has been making them since 2004, but the latest 'full-speed' adapter has only come out now)
	() Thanks

24th June 2007, 17:14	#126
vezj420 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 264 Thanked: 23 Times	whoa....with pics and specs too! thanks LBM! (don;t tell me u got both HUs, though?)
	() Thanks

24th June 2007, 17:56	#128
drumster Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 17 Thanked: 0 Times	None of those cables and adapters (that LBM has mentioned) are available in the market. Dont know about the HUs. The CD-IB100ii which is shown as 6,500 Rs. is an absolute rip-off. Its available for a max of $49 in the US. onsidering the current exchange rates it would be somewhere close to Rs. 2,000 Even if you get it shipped from there, it would be wayyy cheaper than 6,500. I dont know why Pioneer doesnt have any offices or authorized showrooms in India even though this is such a big market. I have ordered the CD-IB100ii from US. My friend bought it for $35... cheapest option
	() Thanks

28th June 2007, 09:45	#129
Raja_babu Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 18 Thanked: 17 Times	I have got a new Swift red 2007 Vxi. iam planning to buy an DVD/MP3 player for my car. Could anyone suggest which is the best place in chennai to fit car audio systems. Will the Pioneer AV unit suit for Swift . What are the necessary things needed. How much would it cost. I am new to the post. Can anyone please guide me .... Thanks in advance.
	() Thanks

23rd July 2007, 14:56	#131
vanchi_s BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 47 Thanked: 32 Times	Alpine CDE-9881 Price? I am planning to buy Alpine CDE-9881, what is the price? Is it a good HU or shall I look for 9883 or 9885? Based on features, I am fine with 9881 except remote.
	() Thanks

23rd July 2007, 20:09	#132
clipto333 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: jalandhar Posts: 912 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	hi guys, i would say instead of throwing your 6500 on the ipod adapter, one should buy a pio grey HU with ipod control. that will cost around as much as the adapter itself or maybe a 1000 rs more the adapter is a rip off. what pio is doing is, they know how big india as a market is for them. why would they want to sell officially when they know their products are selling well and they dont have to take care of the warranty issues and are saving on warranty costs?? they are smart. will finish later cheers clip
	() Thanks

24th July 2007, 14:02	#134
drumster Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 17 Thanked: 0 Times	I am getting the adapter shipped from US (a friend is carrying it along). Cost me USD 35. No shipping. Great deal, eh?
	() Thanks

24th July 2007, 19:36	#135
vezj420 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 264 Thanked: 23 Times	Ok, so let me get this straight...... The majority of Pioneer HUs out there (the ones with the MP suffix) are able to control an iPod, but require the bulky external control adapter and cables. The ones with the IB (iPod-Bus) suffix are capable of direct control of the iPod, requiring only the interface cable. Correct?? So now, if I'm not mistaken, I should be looking into getting an IB model with direct iPod control...within these few, which would u guys recommend?? I think I'm finally seeing the light at the end of the Pioneer tunnel! (unless u guys say otherwise)
	() Thanks