Clarion Vs Alpine Vs Pioneer Vs Kenwood EDIT - Its a Clarion DXZ 785 USB

overboost! · 27th February 2009, 01:33

Thanks Invisible. This thread is going to be very useful to me (have no idea about the technical words though). But still waiting for those 1 to 10 ratings.

abhinav.gupta88 · 27th February 2009, 01:39

The budget is a bit of a problem.

Also will adding the amp help? So that if i take another amp later , i can think about eclipse 7200

Invinsible · 27th February 2009, 01:58

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Originally Posted by overboost!

Thanks Invisible. This thread is going to be very useful to me (have no idea about the technical words though). But still waiting for those 1 to 10 ratings.

No issues my friend. We all learn from scratch and you have made the beginning by joining this forum, soon you will know what it all means.

Abhinav:

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Also will adding the amp help? So that if i take another amp later , i can think about eclipse 7200

Seeing your system I am really surprised you still need an other Amp, it mind-blowing. I suppose you already have that 14001 amp with you.
All I can say where do you wanna go till what limit? To have an answer to that, has no limit

I suppose Eclipse only plays just the Audio CDs.
If you don't mind can I know what issue you having with the current setup that's pushing you towards upgrading already perfect setup?

gunbir · 27th February 2009, 02:50

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Originally Posted by Invinsible

GUNBIR: How much would be this Clarion cost here in India? Any Idea. My heart is leaning towards Pioneer don't know why somehow, and the mind says to go for either for Clarion or Kenwood. Looks like gonna be a roller coaster ride through heart and mind

Neither the Clarion nor the Kenwood are available in India. So by all means, listen to your heart... the P80RSII is a great HU!

Invinsible · 27th February 2009, 02:57

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Originally Posted by gunbir

Neither the Clarion nor the Kenwood are available in India. So by all means, listen to your heart... the P80RSII is a great HU!

Well not that I don't have an option of getting it from US. Just asked to compare the prices. My friend is coming down next month so may be can ask him to carry it along. I did some search on pioneer and it seems that there seems to be some noise issues with it. Wasn't mentioned what noise issue.

abhibh · 27th February 2009, 03:02

I think there is Clarion Distributor in India
Supreme Audiotronics located in Delhi.

And Clarion India websites has 786USB listed on it.
Clarion India | DXZ786USB

abhinav.gupta88 · 27th February 2009, 11:17

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Originally Posted by Invinsible

No issues my friend. We all learn from scratch and you have made the beginning by joining this forum, soon you will know what it all means.

Abhinav:

Seeing your system I am really surprised you still need an other Amp, it mind-blowing. I suppose you already have that 14001 amp with you.
All I can say where do you wanna go till what limit? To have an answer to that, has no limit

I suppose Eclipse only plays just the Audio CDs.
If you don't mind can I know what issue you having with the current setup that's pushing you towards upgrading already perfect setup?

I kinda want my HU to have USB , Bluetooth, better TA, and some more features

As for amp, my subs arent running on full potential so want to give them the power they want.

gunbir · 27th February 2009, 11:27

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Originally Posted by Invinsible

I did some search on pioneer and it seems that there seems to be some noise issues with it. Wasn't mentioned what noise issue.

Its the usual Pioneer pico fuse noise issue, which can be avoided if you dont short the RCAs to ground. We havent had any noise issues with the P80RSII's we have used.

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Originally Posted by abhibh

I think there is Clarion Distributor in India
Supreme Audiotronics located in Delhi.

And Clarion India websites has 786USB listed on it.
Clarion India | DXZ786USB

They don't carry any stocks at all.

Invinsible · 27th February 2009, 13:08

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Originally Posted by abhinav.gupta88

I kinda want my HU to have USB , Bluetooth, better TA, and some more features

As for amp, my subs arent running on full potential so want to give them the power they want.

Well we have 4 contenders here why don't you consider them? Clarion has all that you mentioned as well as the Kenwood. And the balance money you can put in in getting a good amp and may be 2 if required.

Invinsible · 27th February 2009, 13:25

GUNBIR:

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Its the usual Pioneer pico fuse noise issue, which can be avoided if you dont short the RCAs to ground. We havent had any noise issues with the P80RSII's we have used.

The Clarion has a digital TA is it suppose to be the same as the one on Alpine 9887?

VOiLA · 27th February 2009, 13:27

gunbir paaji pls reply to my PM !

frankmehta · 27th February 2009, 13:52

i wish i had the money to buy a kenwood x991 right now. the specs make it so damn covetable!

nitrous · 27th February 2009, 14:53

Does the X991 have TA?

27th February 2009, 14:56

I haven't heard all of them but I was about to buy that clarion 786USB. Its sounds amazing but the interface turned me off terribly. There is something like a plastic fixture over the display screen that has to moved left or right to navigate through the menu. They call it a revolution but it didn't appeal me. Again I can visualize dust getting trapped in the two surfaces soon and the visual appeal fading away.

I had to choose JVC HU, which was available in the same budget.

hydrashok · 27th February 2009, 14:59

@nitrous, it does.

I'd like to echo what Gunbir said about the 9887 emphasizing the upper midrange. When your speakers already have good mid-range reproduction, a 9887 tends to over-exaggerate things to the extent that some material even sounds pretty harsh.

If I had the money, I'd replace my 9887 with a 7200MKII or an X991 without skipping a beat.

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overboost! BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 46 Thanked: 0 Times	Thanks Invisible. This thread is going to be very useful to me (have no idea about the technical words though). But still waiting for those 1 to 10 ratings.
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abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,092 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	The budget is a bit of a problem. Also will adding the amp help? So that if i take another amp later , i can think about eclipse 7200
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abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in the HOOD near you! Posts: 2,768 Thanked: 39 Times	I think there is Clarion Distributor in India Supreme Audiotronics located in Delhi. And Clarion India websites has 786USB listed on it. Clarion India \| DXZ786USB
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nitin.dangayach Posts: n/a	I haven't heard all of them but I was about to buy that clarion 786USB. Its sounds amazing but the interface turned me off terribly. There is something like a plastic fixture over the display screen that has to moved left or right to navigate through the menu. They call it a revolution but it didn't appeal me. Again I can visualize dust getting trapped in the two surfaces soon and the visual appeal fading away. I had to choose JVC HU, which was available in the same budget.
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hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,528 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	@nitrous, it does. I'd like to echo what Gunbir said about the 9887 emphasizing the upper midrange. When your speakers already have good mid-range reproduction, a 9887 tends to over-exaggerate things to the extent that some material even sounds pretty harsh. If I had the money, I'd replace my 9887 with a 7200MKII or an X991 without skipping a beat.
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