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Autophile · 9th March 2006, 11:47

The tap-in connectors (pic posted by RSJ) are fine. Usually available from brands like 3M. Mostly used to tap wire and connect to the other wire.

Can also be used for joining two wires. Make sure the connectors are tight so that wire should not come out.

I prefer soldering with heat shrink tubing...more secure.

navin · 9th March 2006, 12:32

The 3M connectors I have seen are ok. I am not sure how they will hold up under stress though.

s0uljah · 9th March 2006, 19:18

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Originally Posted by navin

Navin baba! that is a new one. Sam! Sam! did you see this.

Pricol does not specialise in Speakers. I would stick to companies that atleast stick specialise in audio.

Hehe, I think I just read a post where you said you have a child who keeps you occupied and I realised maybe I should drop the baba and show a little respect, considering your age, But truth is we use baba as a term of endearment amongst our friends circle so guess it came out subconsciously

About the Xenos, I wasnt even considering it as an option, hehe. That too after being a Team-BHPian, would be sacriliege. LOOOOOOOL.

navin · 10th March 2006, 10:17

Nah I was just surprised. I have been called everything from Old Man to Navinji to Navin Saab. Navin Baba was new to me. Navin does just fine. I have noticved that those from North India tend to use Navinji and even their hindi is very polished unlike mine.

Sam Kapasi · 10th March 2006, 13:18

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Originally Posted by navin

the cosmetics? the cable is under carpet!
What price? I think this should move to PM.

No BABA, why? It's general ICE knowledge. No, expensive wires LOOK expensive, but not belden. In fact the 12 gauge wire is dull grey and slightly twisted, prompting even enthusiasts to think it's electrical wire.
Me, I'm a great fan of Belden (VFM) and Van Den Hul (All out)
I think the 12 gauge belden costs about 150 or 160 bucks a metre.

Sam Kapasi · 10th March 2006, 13:20

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Originally Posted by s0uljah

BTW has anyone heard of Xenox or Xenos components ? I met a guy yesterday who is marketing this brand, said its under the PRICOL flagship. They have a 4" compo(mid/hi/crossover) which would be good for santro users... Approx price was 4.5k I think.

Xenox. These are the guys who make the waterproof alarm remote systems. Part of DA na? Anyways i heard their speakers and they were alarmingly low qual.

Sam Kapasi · 10th March 2006, 13:25

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Originally Posted by s0uljah

About the Xenos, I wasnt even considering it as an option, hehe. That too after being a Team-BHPian, would be sacriliege. LOOOOOOOL.

Right, I just read that. heh heh. Laanat hai tujhpar aise sochne ke liye.

sanjitdas · 10th March 2006, 13:29

hi friends,
i have matiz 2001 sd model with pioneer cassete plyaer,i want to replace the system by cd /mp3 plyaer,which one will be best and suggest for speakar configuration also.i can invest up to 10 k.
regds,
sanjit das

Sam Kapasi · 10th March 2006, 13:41

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Originally Posted by sanjitdas

hi friends,
i have matiz 2001 sd model with pioneer cassete plyaer,i want to replace the system by cd /mp3 plyaer,which one will be best and suggest for speakar configuration also.i can invest up to 10 k.
regds,
sanjit das

Hi Sanjit and welcome!!

For 10K in a matiz... hmmm..

OK there are players by JVC, Sony and Pioneer for about 5 to 5.5K they are pretty decent.
For the front you will have to put a 4" co-axial speaker costing about 1.8 to 2.5K (you can get fronts, that are really good for 2.5K), it would be nice to buy speakers from JBL, Alpine etc instead of Sony (which according to most of us, makes rubbish speakers)

For the rear, you can install a pair of coaxial 6" speakers, or even a 6X9. Expect to spend between 3k to 4k for these. I recommend the same brand speakers for the front and the rear. This setup should put you back by about 11k (1000 bucks more, but worth it, trust me)

Enjoy your music friend, use it to relax your mind and forget the hustle-bustle of mumbai's busy traffic.

You can also use the music and mood to entice one or more young women into wilfully offering you her body.

At some point she may even offer you her spirit. (Women generally prefer white spirits like Vodka and gin)

In fact she may offer you her body because you offered her too much spirit. But that is for another forum.

muni · 10th March 2006, 14:15

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Hi Sanjit and welcome!!

Enjoy your music friend, use it to relax your mind and forget the hustle-bustle of mumbai's busy traffic.

You can also use the music and mood to entice one or more young women into wilfully offering you her body.

At some point she may even offer you her spirit. (Women generally prefer white spirits like Vodka and gin)

In fact she may offer you her body because you offered her too much spirit. But that is for another forum.

wilfully offering you her body. .i guess you meant her your body...kyaa baath hai Sam.. jasmaaani baath ho rahi hi ICE forum pe..

hahaha..looks like sam is in real high spirits..i am seing him in all the threads taking digs.

s0uljah · 10th March 2006, 15:50

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Xenox. These are the guys who make the waterproof alarm remote systems. Part of DA na? Anyways i heard their speakers and they were alarmingly low qual.

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0uljah

About the Xenos, I wasnt even considering it as an option, hehe. That too after being a Team-BHPian, would be sacriliege. LOOOOOOOL.

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Right, I just read that. heh heh. Laanat hai tujhpar aise sochne ke liye.

Yes, they are selling the security systems.

Best part is the guy trying to sell it to me says, "Pricol, Italy, Famous, You can be guaranteed about the sound, you dont have to worry".

Guranteed about what about the sound???????????

jkdas · 11th March 2006, 08:53

The other day I was checking out some shops for front windshield film install. I met a guy who was like, never sell my Pio X324 amp ( I wanted to sell and get more powerful 4 channel amp) and they small speakers ( those 6inch GTO606 compos!) should not be driven frm an amp as they wont take the load! Get a 6x9 with custom box etc! lol

This guy said he can get me a nice sub setup for about 18-20k( price with amp + sub + box) . And he was suprised me was that he said would get me a setup with super bass but the asub would be hidden! And when I asked how it was done he said its called a band pass setup! i was really suprised as i never expected him to knw that.

navin · 11th March 2006, 10:18

in a band pass setup the sub is not hidden. the woofer (driver) is. the sub box is usually very visible.

if I were you i'd have asked him what woofer he is using what order (4th order or 6th order) and what the Vf and Vb and port dimensions are.

jkdas · 11th March 2006, 10:34

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Originally Posted by navin

in a band pass setup the sub is not hidden. the woofer (driver) is. the sub box is usually very visible.

if I were you i'd have asked him what woofer he is using what order (4th order or 6th order) and what the Vf and Vb and port dimensions are.

It seems that band pass box would be bigger tahn ported and sealed box and also if design aint right, one could damage a sub!

navin · 11th March 2006, 10:42

Hmmm...I really only built 1 good bandpass box in my life. Peerless 831727 10" woofer. Vb was 45 liters, Vf 15 liters. 4th order. wierd I built this box about 15 years ago and I still remember it like it was yesterday and i cant remeber what I ate for lunch yesterday. Guys, dont consume any chemicals incl C2H5OH. Your brain will become mush like mine.

Now a 10" in 60 liters....hmmm... well a bandpass would be about the same size as a proted box atleast for this woofer. the advantages being a more efficient loading of the woofer the disadvantages being the quality of the bass.

9th March 2006, 11:47	#3016
Autophile BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 931 Thanked: 4 Times	The tap-in connectors (pic posted by RSJ) are fine. Usually available from brands like 3M. Mostly used to tap wire and connect to the other wire. Can also be used for joining two wires. Make sure the connectors are tight so that wire should not come out. I prefer soldering with heat shrink tubing...more secure.
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9th March 2006, 12:32	#3017
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,199 Thanked: 9,309 Times	The 3M connectors I have seen are ok. I am not sure how they will hold up under stress though.
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10th March 2006, 10:17	#3019
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,199 Thanked: 9,309 Times	Nah I was just surprised. I have been called everything from Old Man to Navinji to Navin Saab. Navin Baba was new to me. Navin does just fine. I have noticved that those from North India tend to use Navinji and even their hindi is very polished unlike mine. Last edited by navin : 10th March 2006 at 10:18.
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sanjitdas Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1 Thanked: 0 Times	audio system for matiz hi friends, i have matiz 2001 sd model with pioneer cassete plyaer,i want to replace the system by cd /mp3 plyaer,which one will be best and suggest for speakar configuration also.i can invest up to 10 k. regds, sanjit das
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11th March 2006, 08:53	#3027
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	The other day I was checking out some shops for front windshield film install. I met a guy who was like, never sell my Pio X324 amp ( I wanted to sell and get more powerful 4 channel amp) and they small speakers ( those 6inch GTO606 compos!) should not be driven frm an amp as they wont take the load! Get a 6x9 with custom box etc! lol This guy said he can get me a nice sub setup for about 18-20k( price with amp + sub + box) . And he was suprised me was that he said would get me a setup with super bass but the asub would be hidden! And when I asked how it was done he said its called a band pass setup! i was really suprised as i never expected him to knw that. Last edited by jkdas : 11th March 2006 at 08:59.
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11th March 2006, 10:18	#3028
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,199 Thanked: 9,309 Times	in a band pass setup the sub is not hidden. the woofer (driver) is. the sub box is usually very visible. if I were you i'd have asked him what woofer he is using what order (4th order or 6th order) and what the Vf and Vb and port dimensions are. Last edited by navin : 11th March 2006 at 10:19.
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11th March 2006, 10:42	#3030
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,199 Thanked: 9,309 Times	Hmmm...I really only built 1 good bandpass box in my life. Peerless 831727 10" woofer. Vb was 45 liters, Vf 15 liters. 4th order. wierd I built this box about 15 years ago and I still remember it like it was yesterday and i cant remeber what I ate for lunch yesterday. Guys, dont consume any chemicals incl C2H5OH. Your brain will become mush like mine. Now a 10" in 60 liters....hmmm... well a bandpass would be about the same size as a proted box atleast for this woofer. the advantages being a more efficient loading of the woofer the disadvantages being the quality of the bass.
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