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jkdas · 25th June 2006, 20:35

dude, why do you want an alpine at the back? ;

heard teh new 7series frm jbl does good job. Anyway your ears. I am not good at Alpine prices.
Pioneer 6100 @ 7k grey is a good buy.Its a 4 channel amp. Later on you can bridge its 2 channel for suband then drive the rear frm HU. What say?

harmon_bro · 25th June 2006, 21:13

will check the JBL 7 series. I going in for 2 subs, so any suggestions for a twin sub setup?

delu · 25th June 2006, 21:23

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Originally Posted by jkdas

dude, why do you want an alpine at the back? ;

heard teh new 7series frm jbl does good job. Anyway your ears. I am not good at Alpine prices.
Pioneer 6100 @ 7k grey is a good buy.Its a 4 channel amp. Later on you can bridge its 2 channel for suband then drive the rear frm HU. What say?

agreed with jk... its better to drive the front and the sub with amp in case of a 4 channel amp and drive the rears through the HU. Its better to have the amp power on speakers closest to you.

kb100 · 25th June 2006, 21:45

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Originally Posted by harmon_bro

will check the JBL 7 series. I going in for 2 subs, so any suggestions for a twin sub setup?

TWO Subs... ??.. You will disctinctly need a more powerful amp!... or TWO!

venky · 25th June 2006, 21:51

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Originally Posted by jkdas

Hi Venky, welcome to TBHP.

Your ICE does look great. I love Alpine's and Infinity and would love to have a setup of these one day

But if it was me, I would haev had an Infinity compo at teh frnt.

An amp; start with a 4 good channel amp. You can try Pio, JBL (CS or GTO series) or Alpine ones. Some good Pio amps would be 6100, 944 and JBL has CS 60.4 or if you can the GTO75.4!

A four channel amp as your Hu has 3 preamp outs(frnt/rear/sub). You can add a sub later on (with a mono amp or bridge 2 channels of teh 4 channel amp to power it).

Thanks Das.

The Infinity front compo is freakin expensive. this is how the rack rates with bill/warranty feel good factors work out now...

Alpine 9847R: between 13 and 14.5k
JBL Front Comps: 5,500 vs Infinity Front Comps: 8,500

JBl Rear Ovals: 5,500 vs Infinity Reference (not kappa): 6,990

These are MRP and should be able to squeeze the tiniest milk out of the stone (read discounts).

Now, i tested both the rear speakers side by side, and the Infinity's just blasted the JBL's out of the room! Unbelieveable clarity and thump...or my ears deceive me.

Ofcourse, i am driving, and I understand the theory that since you drive, the front speakers ought to be good, since you sit close to them...but the price differential is just too much...I think the JBL kind of muscles close to the infinity comps.

I like to build my system scientifically and with thourough understanding of what is the best...because if I buy something its kind of for life...like my Yezdi

My next question is to SAM and a few people in Bangalore. I am planning to get this set up done at FX AUDIO in Bangalore - who are the dealers for JBL/Infinity...I have a friend who works on the operations side (name starts with A after a great Indian ruler...he knows you sam) works there and have met a few cool people who work there as well. But, are they good? My other option is Sachin Auto shop...but I prefer FX since I know folks.

What cabling should I go in for? My Palio comes with factory fitted wiring, which I have been told NOT to disturb as it could affect the overall electrical wiring of the car (there have been recent accidents and fire safety issues because of after market fitments such as these). I have no clue about things like this.

cheers!

delu · 25th June 2006, 22:05

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Originally Posted by kb100

TWO Subs... ??.. You will disctinctly need a more powerful amp!... or TWO!

Instead of going for 2 amps I think 1 amp with more power is a good option. In that case a single 6 channel amp may be okay if harmon is planning for 2 subs or if he thinks of a single sub may be a 5 channel amp will do.

kb100 · 25th June 2006, 22:15

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Originally Posted by delu

Instead of going for 2 amps I think 1 amp with more power is a good option. In that case a single 6 channel amp may be okay if harmon is planning for 2 subs or if he thinks of a single sub may be a 5 channel amp will do.

Yes he can do either ... the point to remember here is that he wants TWO subs.. each sub - depending on what he picks up, will need a minimum of 150wrms EACH minimum.. All the 6 channel amps that I know of that power are as insanely expensive as they are rare!

He will be better off investing in TWO four channel amps.. or one Four channel and one TWO channel.. He can use the four channel bridged to drive two subs... and use the two channel for the front compos while driving the rear speakers from the HU.. However given the cost difference between a four channel and a two channel amp in india and future resale value etc, he might be better off just going in for TWO four channel amps.. added advantage he can drive his rears also thru it!

jkdas · 25th June 2006, 22:18

There is a adaptor to get power and so from teh car's wiring and hence no need to cut the original wiring. ANd for speakers do use the wire taht comes with teh pack

sam's busy with HU setup somewher.

kb100 · 25th June 2006, 22:34

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Originally Posted by jkdas

sam's busy with HU setup somewher.

........or getting paid for it!!

jkdas · 25th June 2006, 23:07

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Originally Posted by kb100

........or getting paid for it!!

'p' ?

6 channel amp?

Is there a 5 channel amp which would deliver 200W rms? And if one's serious abt sub, get a good mono amp.

delu · 26th June 2006, 10:06

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Originally Posted by jkdas

Can anyone upload teh manual of Pioneer 7750 for me. Or a link would do

jk can i have your email id so that i can attach the manual and email it to you!!!

delu · 26th June 2006, 10:20

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Originally Posted by jkdas

'p' ?

6 channel amp?

Is there a 5 channel amp which would deliver 200W rms? And if one's serious abt sub, get a good mono amp.

in fact Pyle PLAD-618 2000-Watt 6-Channel delivers 4 x 100W + 2 x 250W rms at 4 ohms. you can check the specs.

kb100 · 26th June 2006, 10:37

PILE??.... Opps .. Sorry PYLE??? ... B&T where art thou??

satish_appasani · 26th June 2006, 11:16

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Originally Posted by navin

satish:
Keep the HU. BTW does it have a auxillary pre-in socket on the front panel? I cant tell from the photo you have posted. Some Sony model do have this. If so you cna use this to connect your pocket PC player.

Good front speakers will run you about 4-6K per pair. JBL (CS and GTO series), Alpine SPS/SPE series, Blaupunkt GT series offer models in the price range.

Then I would add a nice 4 ch. amp. The Pioneer 6100 at 7k will serve this prupose.

Lastly if you have the space I would add the a subwoofer. There are a few 8" woofers that will occupy less space than the more commonly available 12" woofers. I think JBL sells one in India but I forget the model number. Hertz sells a 8" woofer that needs a small (15 liter) box.

I'd keep the sony rear speakers as they are really only for rear fill.

As a first step to my upgrade, I am planning to put JBL 5" components in the front and power them using my existing Sony 222 AMP. Planning to power the rear speakers directly from HU. Any suggestions? Later i will put a better AMP and woofer. My choice of music is i listen to everything though my priority is smooth Jazz. I want something that plays jazz better but gives decent quality when playing pop or rock or filmi music. I also listen to podcast. Then I put my Equalizer preset to Vocal and that sounds good.
Any suggestions for JBL Compo models?

Still i am looking for a cheaper solution to connect my pocketpc to HU.

jkdas · 26th June 2006, 11:53

satish , seems your config looks fine. Do upgrade later. Its for a Palio 1.6 right?

and kb,its l a eye D. got it?

and Delu, how much would it cost and guys can you comment on that product?

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jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	dude, why do you want an alpine at the back? ; heard teh new 7series frm jbl does good job. Anyway your ears. I am not good at Alpine prices. Pioneer 6100 @ 7k grey is a good buy.Its a 4 channel amp. Later on you can bridge its 2 channel for suband then drive the rear frm HU. What say?
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harmon_bro BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Madras Posts: 542 Thanked: 14 Times	will check the JBL 7 series. I going in for 2 subs, so any suggestions for a twin sub setup?
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jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	There is a adaptor to get power and so from teh car's wiring and hence no need to cut the original wiring. ANd for speakers do use the wire taht comes with teh pack sam's busy with HU setup somewher. Last edited by jkdas : 25th June 2006 at 22:19.
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kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	PILE??.... Opps .. Sorry PYLE??? ... B&T where art thou??
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jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	satish , seems your config looks fine. Do upgrade later. Its for a Palio 1.6 right? and kb,its l a eye D. got it? and Delu, how much would it cost and guys can you comment on that product? Last edited by jkdas : 26th June 2006 at 11:56.
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