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| ![]() The US air chief Gen David l Goldfein flew the Tejas jet along with Air Vice Marshal AP Singh. |
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| ![]() Quote: For anyone looking to get an exhaustive and well researched look into the state of play of UAV's should devote a good hour to the link below: http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone...t-air-vehicles Anyway coming back to India, I can't begrudge the planners here. It's quite clear that a project like this deserves attention in terms of financial backing to truly make headway, but at the same time, just how much do you siphon off for the future when there are so many pressing needs today?? | |
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| ![]() TL:DR - Indian defence acquisition is structured like a Monty Python sketch Love this quote: "acquisition continues to languish at the altar of procedural delays". Splendid. REF: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/defe...3?ndtv_related Some bullet points: RFP stage - 20 week permitted; 120 week actual Evaluation stage - 30 week permitted; 90 week actual Cost negotiating - 6 week permitted; 60 week actual High scores: 273 weeks cost negotiating for a particular deal. I know Indians like to haggle but this is Olympic. Bravo REF: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/lais...home-topscroll I just can't help but almost be impressed at the incredulous numbers being posted here. Damning doesn't seem adequate. My personal favourite is that after any deal basically goes through all the fiery circus hoops on the Def Ministry side, it can land up at the Fin Ministry door where they shrug and ask for it to start all over. Gosh, it Really truly feels like a Python sketch (the hospital inspection comes to mind). MODS - wasn't quite sure which of the defence forums to post this to, considering this indictment applies broad spectrum. Gah I'm so frustrated reading this all. |
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| ![]() I am actually happy that a minister undertook the exercise to identify the issues with defence procurement process. While it is embarrassing to see such lackadaisical approach in such a crucial sector, at least someone seems to have done something to highlight the issues. Now lets hope the implementation is done with the same zeal. |
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| ![]() Oh absolutely, it's a small reprieve that someone finally had it in them to just voice what's long needed to be said. Looking at the good doctor's background, he can somewhat be classified as a technocrat rather than a traditional politician. Thus it's not altogether surprising that he should be so logical in his assessment. My worry is that with elections coming up, he's gone and rattled the hornets nest and the very bureaucrats he rails against are sharpening their knives. I've long maintained that a tri services command authority, similar to the US Joint Chiefs might at the very least resolve the acquisition disparity between the individual services. There's too much of a disconnect and at least in terms of getting the kit they all need, out of the limited pie they have, best they decide jointly. Rotate the chairmanship of this body so that no one service dominates. With the multidimensional threat going forward on two fronts I honestly can't see why such a command authority has not yet implemented itself. Surely now more than ever, all 3/4 arms have to work in close concert under a prescriptive outline to deal with the threat posed by China and Pakistan and others. I guess in this regard, the command authority set up at Andamans will be an important incubator test. My only worry is that the merit of this is not made abundantly clear after the fact of a clash in that region. Once again, even with this singular proposal, and the same holds for all the others stated, any reformer would be going up against the not inconsiderable institutional inertia that besets Indian govt (sure this probably is the case with any national bureaucracy). |
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| ![]() LCA Tejas LSP-8 successfully completes Hot Refueling Trial Inching close to the Final Operational Clearance (FOC), the Tejas completed a hot refueling trial followed by a sortie at HAL airport, Bengaluru yesterday. The system performance during the refueling session was in-line with design requirements and was satisfactory. In the history of the Indian Air Force, LCA will be the first aircraft in the light weight category to fly with this unique capability of hot refueling. Hot Refueling is a single point pressure refueling of the aircraft with the engine in operation. It is a process by which a fighter aircraft is refueled (in between sorties) while its engine is in operation, thereby cutting down the refueling time by half and turn-around time significantly. This capability is highly desired in combat situation which basically puts aside the need for the pilot to park the aircraft, power down and exit the cockpit for refueling to begin. The aerial refueling probe for the LCA Tejas Limited Series Production-8 (LSP-8) is being supplied by UK based Cobham. ![]() Last edited by PraNeel : 27th February 2018 at 23:15. |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Thanks, do you know what are the sort of technical modification required for hot refueling? Or aren't there any, only additional safety protocol observed? I assume if a plane is capable for inflight refueling, (which is sort of the mother of all hot fueling), doing the same on the ground with the engine at idle should be straight forward? Jeroen Jeroen |
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Does hot fuelling go faster than regular fuelling? Are all these planes equipped with IFR or will there be version with no IFR but still hot fuelling capabillity? Thanks Jeroen | |
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Well, I would like to see them do it. Even at idle there is a substantial volume of air being sucked into a jet engine. Holding anything close to the intake is likely to get it sucked in. Even if you manage to get it into place, how would you remove it? Do the math, a small surface with a small differential pressure across it will require a lot of force to keep it in its place. Be interesting to see how they do this. Jeroen | |
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