[mayankk]

Originally Posted by aargee

@Mayankk, ...... Just asking out of curiosity, why is it difficult to fit a K&N for a Ford car?

just check out the pictures.there is no room in the bay.
helluva project trying out angles.
thats why the solution aint up to par,apparently.

[CPH]

Originally Posted by mayankk

btw,for the experts here, with CAI, the enclosure for the filter looks to me as if the filter is considerably smaller than when we fit it a standalone conical.is that right?

If you refer to pipercross then it is a definitive yes. Pipercross is the worst of all induction kits. Simota Is better, but usually the remainder of the intake is rather poor. Same goes for BMC.

The Green, Jetex, JR and K&N 57i are better, but suffer from torque problems because of not utilising the full technical potential.

The only two products that are dedicated to each cars are GSR products and the K&N Typhoon. Both products can be installed without specialists. Both have a representation in India.

Originally Posted by mayankk

@CPH:it is much harder to find good fittings and a good mechanic here if you go off of the established installers.its all trial and error but eventually, you may get it right mechanically.
and the +/- percentage of error can be discounted on the learning curve here.

[mayankk]

hmmmm...food for thought.taking a 8 hour drive upto corbett next week.Ill keep the oe stuff as backup in the boot, in case my work goes into frankenstein mode.if there is even one glitch on the drive, then 57i it is(is that the same as apollo though??).

[CPH]

Originally Posted by mayankk

hmmmm...food for thought.taking a 8 hour drive upto corbett next week.Ill keep the oe stuff as backup in the boot, in case my work goes into frankenstein mode.if there is even one glitch on the drive, then 57i it is(is that the same as apollo though??).

I wouldn't advise to go for the 57i. Stock is about as good as 57i. Typhoon is much better if available.

[rjstyles69]

Originally Posted by aargee

@RjStyles - Isn't that a conical setup on WagonR? Correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm planning to get one conical for my WagonR & ofcourse I like to do it myself. I hope I get the instructions when I buy K&N isn't it?

aargee that's the engine bay of a baleno. I don't think the WagonR has that much space in the engine bay.

[mayankk]

hey, should i try and get a less taller filter to use the bay?
this one measures 7.4" from flange to top.
this is a double conical(i dont know if thats the correct term.all i mean to convey is there is some active surface inside the cone as well)
sort of like " /V\ ".......

[CPH]

Originally Posted by mayankk

hey, should i try and get a less taller filter to use the bay?
this one measures 7.4" from flange to top.
this is a double conical(i dont know if thats the correct term.all i mean to convey is there is some active surface inside the cone as well)
sort of like " /V\ ".......

The added inverted cone is not only able to pass extra air. It also aids flow characteristics. Due to the inverted cone less turbulence means a higher pressure in the filter mouth, which looks only little but may gain you between 1 and 3% in peak power compared to a single cone filter.

We usually call them twin cone filters.

[mayankk]

one other thing.
the highlighted bit, where the pipe's joining the block, its outer dia is 2.5" or 3"????

[CPH]

Originally Posted by mayankk

one other thing.
the highlighted bit, where the pipe's joining the block, its outer dia is 2.5" or 3"????

It is neither.

It is 60mm.

[mayankk]

Originally Posted by CPH

It is neither.

It is 60mm.

umm,no.
in my car, the ID of the connecting pipe is 63mm.
thats 2.5".
got it now.
fitting a braided heat resistant hose dirctly, without going through the airbox.
(sheepish grin):as was done intially in thw 1st picture earlier, much neater this time!!

[frankmehta]

Any updates? Please tell us if you got a solution

[mayankk]

theoretically formulated as of now.....just cant find an aluminium pipe bender, or the pipe for that matter.
gonna be a DIY of sorts now, in january.
Involves a 3' 2.5" ID pipe,or a silicone hose, removing the airbox, sand, a blowtorch, and some flat steel bolt holders....will update.
currently its still as above, but not aesthetically pleasing or giving any peace of mind....

[di1in]

I've planning on trying out a DIY induction on my ohc, but im stuck as to how to make/bend those aluminium pipes. are there any alternatives for those?

[mayankk]

Originally Posted by di1in

I've planning on trying out a DIY induction on my ohc, but im stuck as to how to make/bend those aluminium pipes. are there any alternatives for those?

I've found a guy in gurgaon who bends aluminium.unfortunately, am just not able to source 2.5" ID pipes conveniently(lazy).

Alternative could be silicone hoses, but dont know if they would require the filter to mounted by itself and not take support from the hose end.

just FYI, it'll be much easier and cheaper if you buy the CAI kit,trust me.
also, mechanics familiar with OHC's bay would be much easier to come by.

[di1in]

Originally Posted by mayankk

I've found a guy in gurgaon who bends aluminium.unfortunately, am just not able to source 2.5" ID pipes conveniently(lazy).

Alternative could be silicone hoses, but dont know if they would require the filter to mounted by itself and not take support from the hose end.

just FYI, it'll be much easier and cheaper if you buy the CAI kit,trust me.
also, mechanics familiar with OHC's bay would be much easier to come by.

Yea, scrapped that idea. Based on ideas coming up from here I'd have to find a place who use silicone instead of metal and flexible hoses.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-revision.html