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Originally Posted by ampere
(Post 2849078)
What I would suggest is start with the humble 18 55 and the 50mm prime. Play with them for some time before you decide what you actually like to shoot. (Landscapes/Portraits/Wild Life etc) One lens covering all the range may not be a good idea. |
Originally Posted by ampere
(Post 2849078)
I don't know about 18 300. My comparisons were for 18-200 Canon versus Nikon where the specs are same. But Canon costs about 579 to Nikon's 846. What I would suggest is start with the humble 18 55 and the 50mm prime. Play with them for some time before you decide what you actually like to shoot. (Landscapes/Portraits/Wild Life etc) One lens covering all the range may not be a good idea.. |
Originally Posted by ampere
(Post 2849078)
If the specs and optical quality are similar, that makes the Canon 18 200 VFM compared to Nikon. When I started even I was in the same dilemma whether to go for all purpose zoom. But some how decided other wise. However I did not repent. I saved and later got a 70-200 F4 IS L and a 10-22 based on my need |
Originally Posted by Samurai
(Post 2849027)
People who are making those comments are only thinking Nikon V1/J1, which uses a much smaller sensor. Rest of the mirrorless world uses the same sensor as their dSLR counterpart, so why can't they match their dSLR cousins who use the same sensor? :uncontrol The trouble is rest of the mirrorless camera world is not visible to them since those are neither Canon nor Nikon. But now Canon has made a very smart move. They didn't take the garden path lead by Nikon with their tiny sensor. Instead, they are offering the APS-C size sensor, same as their entry/mid level dSLRs, a path taken by every other mirror less make except Nikon. This changes the game significantly. Now the Canikon crowd has only Canon to look towards in the mirror less world. Nikon V1/J1 with its tiny sensor can no longer stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Canon in the mirror less world. |
Originally Posted by Samurai
(Post 2849056)
That will really piss off people who invested in the 1st gen Nikon cameras.:) That is why I am just sitting back and watching the scene. If Canon comes out with a fast EOS M zoom starting at 15mm by next year, I might switch over to EOS M family. As much as I love my Olympus Camera/lens collection, I am getting really tired of not being able to sell any of my old gear. |
Originally Posted by R2D2
(Post 2849045)
Of course that applies only to DSLRs with cropped sensors. :) +1 That Nikon V1 was a nice try by Nikon, but not good enough. Canon using an APS-C sensor in their mirrorless camera was a real smart move. But I don't recall a EV - only a monitor which can be a drawback in bright sunlight. |
Originally Posted by R2D2
(Post 2849045)
I wont be surprised if Nikon too ups the game in the 2nd generation Nikon 1 cameras. That's the good thing about mirrorless - exciting because the format is evolving so fast while the downside is loss of value over a short period of time. |
Originally Posted by R2D2
(Post 2849045)
DSLRs are comparatively stodgy and revolutionary changes are few and far between. |
Originally Posted by Samurai
(Post 2849034)
Aren't these like budget lenses? I am not familiar with Nikon lenses, but their zoom range alone is making me suspicious. Good lenses rarely have more than 5X zoom range. |
Originally Posted by R2D2
(Post 2849045)
I wont call them budget as the 18-200 is nearly Rs 54K (USD 850 MSRP in the US), and the 18-300 will be more expensive (USD 1000 MSRP) in the US. Their IQ is acceptable in line with the convenience ie zoom range they offer |
Originally Posted by rajb3125
(Post 2849265)
These are expensive lenses with budget IQ. I would rather suggest Nikon 55-200 mm F4.0-5.6 ASFDX VR N, Its an amazing lens at a ridiculous budget price. IQ is almost as good as 70-200mm VR1 but AF is a bit slow compared to it. But AF is still plenty good. 50-300 is supposed to be good, but I have no experience with it. I always consider extreme zooms as a safe alternative when one can only travel with 1 lens and is physically not able to change lenses in the field (dust storms, snow storms, etc). |
Originally Posted by rajb3125
(Post 2849265)
Evolving is good, loss of value isn't. And to highlight the consumers for m43 market, I just bought a Panasonic G2 twin lens kit with less than 100 shutter count for $150 AUD, also bought a GH2 recently got $250. Both of these sold for $800+ themselves less than a yr ago. Compare it to Nikon D90 is still selling secondhand for $400AUD+ and its much older camera. People are buying these as impulse and then not using them, but this makes it good for me, I can get gear cheaper. OFF TOPIC, I also picked up 135mm f2 DC in brand new condition for half the price.). |
Originally Posted by rajb3125
(Post 2849265)
Marketing 101, if you can make money from same thing then keep on doing it....basically to end the story, marketing will keep saying its too expensive to make and hence we will need to sell them for that much higher price..). |
Originally Posted by rajb3125
(Post 2849265)
I always consider extreme zooms as a safe alternative when one can only travel with 1 lens and is physically not able to change lenses in the field (dust storms, snow storms, etc). |
Originally Posted by rajb3125
(Post 2849265)
AFAIK only Canon/Sony/Samsung has aps-c sensors, rest are a sensors with 2x crop factor. |
Originally Posted by gd1418
(Post 2850266)
The D800 - finally, finally After a long long wait, today I got my second camera body and that too a FX. The Nikon D800. Though this hobby/profession is supposed to be a bottomless pit, as of know my photographic gear seems to be complete. My signature below lists all my rides & the photographic gear. No, I don't want the rumoured D400. |
Originally Posted by Samurai
(Post 2849588)
:uncontrol You guys can never get over that part. The gap between 1.6x and 2x crop factor is too much to bridge.:D |
Originally Posted by gd1418
(Post 2850266)
The D800 - finally, finally After a long long wait, today I got my second camera body and that too a FX. The Nikon D800. Though this hobby/profession is supposed to be a bottomless pit, as of know my photographic gear seems to be complete. |
Originally Posted by R2D2
(Post 2849077)
BTW the 18-300 is listed at INR 72950 in India v/s USD 1000 in the USA. If you can get it from the US it will be great as Nikon offers international warranties on lens and accessories (local on camera body). |
Originally Posted by rajb3125
(Post 2849265)
These are expensive lenses with budget IQ. I would rather suggest Nikon 55-200 mm F4.0-5.6 ASFDX VR N, Its an amazing lens at a ridiculous budget price. IQ is almost as good as 70-200mm VR1 but AF is a bit slow compared to it. But AF is still plenty good. 50-300 is supposed to be good, but I have no experience with it. |
Originally Posted by gd1418
(Post 2850266)
The D800 - finally, finally |
Originally Posted by gd1418
(Post 2850266)
The D800 - finally, finally After a long long wait, today I got my second camera body and that too a FX. The Nikon D800. Though this hobby/profession is supposed to be a bottomless pit, as of know my photographic gear seems to be complete. My signature below lists all my rides & the photographic gear. |
Originally Posted by nilanjanray
(Post 2850306)
I will probably decide between the D800 and the D400 (if and when it gets launched). |
Originally Posted by R2D2
(Post 2850300)
Congratulations GD sir. clap: I am sure you will treat us to some fabulous wildlife photos with this camera. The unboxing photos were really enjoyable. Get good SD and CF cards for it. Only go in for those recommended in the manual (page 434) Sandisk/Panasonic/Lexar/Toshiba. Of these Sandisk is the most common in India while the others are pretty difficult to get or not available, especially Lexar. |
Originally Posted by nilanjanray
(Post 2850306)
Congratulations Mr. Guru Dutt!! Now you have taken the game to the next level :) How did you manage to get it so fast? Looking forward to the initial pictures and your feedback w.r.t. wildlife. Btw, I read some interesting stuff from Brad Hill - a nature photographer. Google D800 and his name. I will probably decide between the D800 and the D400 (if and when it gets launched). |
Originally Posted by rameshnanda
(Post 2850311)
Congratulations on your new acquisition. The unveiling pictures itself are very exciting indeed. Would you mind sharing some details on your purchase? The source and the price? |
Originally Posted by gd1418
(Post 2850266)
The D800 - finally, finally... |
Originally Posted by R2D2
(Post 2850300)
...treat us to some fabulous wildlife photos with this camera. |
Originally Posted by gd1418
(Post 2850313)
Thanks R2D2. But this looks now very doubtful with today's SC judgement.:Frustrati. |
Originally Posted by gd1418
(Post 2850313)
I shall be hunting for these cards: CompactFlash Memory Card Extreme Pro 600x UDMA, Extreme Pro SDHC Flash Memory Card My camera guy in Chandni Chowk has Lexar cards. |
Originally Posted by rameshnanda
(Post 2850311)
Correct me if I am wrong. As far as I have read, D600 is the one which is rumored right? Is D400 is also around? |
Originally Posted by nilanjanray
(Post 2850306)
Some folks are saying that the 18-300 has equivalent IQ to 18-105 and 70-300 VR at their respective ranges. If really so, I am tempted to sell both these lenses and go for the 18-300. But I am skeptical - there must be compromises with the 18-300 lens, |
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