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Old 15th February 2023, 06:19   #76
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Re: Building a cheap, slow & less powerful Home NAS (network attached storage)

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Is it possible to "bypass" the dynamic IP of ISPs, other than asking for a static IP, which in my limited reading on the internet, brings a risk of data breach. (Especially if like me, you don't know exactly what you're doing)
I'm planning on setting up a PiNAS that is accessible over the internet so that I can upload my data from my devices without actually being in my home. I've decided on a RPi 3/4 with a WD purple HDD(since it's going to be constantly running). (My primary concern is being able to store data and I believe a Pi NAS is more than sufficient for my concern, although if better budget options do exist, please do share)

Any help would be appreciated.
A Pi Nas should be good to go except the extreme cost of the the PI at this point. It's not that much worth as it's priced very high due to unavailability. However, let's go ahead with either PI or any replacement for the PI.

The WD purple comes with a SATA interface and I am not sure if the PI has a SATA port. My older PI2 does not, so please check on this. If not you will need a SATA to usb3 converter.

For bypassing the ISP IP rules, I am using a solution called tailscale. It's like a vpn you install on the PI with some authentication mechanism like Google authentication and you also need to install it on every device you want to connect to it. For examples my phone runs tailscale and is able to browse pictures and videos from my home server.
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Old 16th February 2023, 16:38   #77
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Re: Building a cheap, slow & less powerful Home NAS (network attached storage)

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A Pi Nas should be good to go except the extreme cost of the the PI at this point.
I'm hoping the PI foundation keep up their words and the situation normalises after March/April.
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The WD purple comes with a SATA interface and I am not sure if the PI has a SATA port. My older PI2 does not, so please check on this. If not you will need a SATA to usb3 converter.
No the Pi4 doesn't have a SATA either.

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For bypassing the ISP IP rules, I am using a solution called tailscale.
Thank you. I read about this and find the free plan to be more than enough for my use case. (I don't imagine I'll ever use more than 20 devices and I didn't see any speed limitations either)

Do you have any cons/niggles to share about it?

Once again thank you.
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Do you have any cons/niggles to share about it?

Once again thank you.
I only use it on my android phone, so you may want to check on your usage platforms and the clients available for that platform.

The only issue I have seen sometimes is that with the tailscale on, sometimes UPI payments fail. The weird thing is, it does not always fail - but anyway, the point is, i end up having to connect/disconnect tailscale based on whether I need to access my home n/w or not. Other than this, no con observed at all.
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Re: Building a cheap, slow & less powerful Home NAS (network attached storage)

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Is it possible to "bypass" the dynamic IP of ISPs, other than asking for a static IP

My ISP is ACT fibernet and my public facing IP is 49.xxx .
You (your router) don't even have a Public IP.

All these Fiber ISPs use a technology called CG-NAT or DoubleNAT.

Basically it is similar to your home router setup, where 1 Public IP comes to your router and then it's broken (NAT) into LAN IPs like 192.168.1.xx.

But here in these ISP's case, it is similar but in wider scale. One Public IP (that 49.xx) comes to your local ISP node and it is broken into private IP like (10.xx or 172.xx) and distributed to customer routers for further breaking.

So your home router doesn't even get a Public IP.

With this kind of network setup, VPN Tunneling is the only way to expose local servers / services to the internet.

Thanks.
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Re: Building a cheap, slow & less powerful Home NAS (network attached storage)

My take on NAS devices is to use an old laptop(even 10+ year old ones) with a bunch of usb ssds or harddrives and install TrueNas Core on it.
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Re: Building a cheap, slow & less powerful Home NAS (network attached storage)

Thank you deep_bang and NaXal.
I can attest to the effectiveness of Tailscale.
Got myself a Pi 4 8GB last month and now have a Samba file-share along with a few other long time projects on it all accessible via Tailscale.
I don't think, I'll change even after my ISP gives me a IPv6, considering the ease and simplicity of use.
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Re: Building a cheap, slow & less powerful Home NAS (network attached storage)

Cross-linking to a similar thread by MrMcqueen (DIY : My own, personal cloud storage)
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My take on NAS devices is to use an old laptop(even 10+ year old ones) with a bunch of usb ssds or harddrives and install TrueNas Core on it.
That's definitely the cheapest way considering the lack of availability, questionable quality and high prices of JBOD USB enclosures available in India. I run a similar setup but attached to my primary workstation (OpenSuse) as a Jellyfin media store.

The problems are many and starts with selecting a good powered USB hub and making sure all the enclosures and cables are good. For example my existing powered hub from Orico couldn't handle 4 spinning rust for some reason even though it was rated for it and I had to substitute with a TP-Link hub. One of the USB HDDs came with a really bad enclosure and cable leading to flaky connection and had to be ripped out and placed into a new enclosure with a new cable.

Not quite the expected plug-n-play experience going into the project. 😅
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One of the USB HDDs came with a really bad enclosure and cable leading to flaky connection and had to be ripped out and placed into a new enclosure with a new cable.

Not quite the expected plug-n-play experience going into the project. 😅

Yeah, one of mine had the old USB A to A connectors, and they rip off the main board of the drive quite easily to the point that I took all of them that I had and chucked them in my useless tech bin.

I prefer the m.2 to USB enclosures with NVME ssds
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I prefer the m.2 to USB enclosures with NVME ssds
Looking at the prices I'd choose some NVMe SSDs too for a new build. 2x the price of HDDs for same capacity: 2T v. 4T at 10k INR.

Where HDDs still have an edge is with high capacity drives, 18TB and such, but I would only consider them when using raidz3. Too much that can go wrong during the long rebuild times otherwise. LTT lost their whole array with 15-wide raidz3 that was left unchecked.

Personally I'd never go over 10-wide and even that makes me uncomfortable. 8-wide raidz3 would be the sweet spot. 🙂
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LTT lost their whole array with 15-wide raidz3 that was left unchecked.
Saw this quite a few months late.... I was inactive for a long while.

Nice to meet a fellow LTT Viewer on this forum.

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