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Old 8th November 2023, 14:18   #6946
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What's the difference between

11th Generation Intel Core i5-11320H Processor

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11th Gen Intel Core i5-1135G7 Processor


I see 2 different Dell Inspirons with a 10,000 Rs price difference but the only difference in the specs is the above?
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Old 8th November 2023, 14:49   #6947
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What's the difference between
11th Generation Intel Core i5-11320H Processor
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11th Gen Intel Core i5-1135G7 Processor

i5-11320H is newer processor by couple of months and it is tiny bit faster as per the spec.
Ref: https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compar...core_i5_1135g7
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Old 8th November 2023, 15:18   #6948
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i5-11320H is newer processor by couple of months and it is tiny bit faster as per the spec.
Ref: https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compar...core_i5_1135g7

Is it worth the extra 10K?

I am looking for a replacement for my 5.5 year old Dell Inspiron i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz, 1800 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s) with 8GB RAM & 256 GB SSD. The laptop runs fine but the screen cables & casing has gone bad & it flickers every now & then. My mechanic can't source the parts easily to rebuild it though he has said he will try from Bangalore. I am wondering what I should buy to replace it in case, he isn't able to source the parts.

I have seen newer Dell Inpirons 5518 (with the i5-11320H) & the other being 35511 with a 10K difference in price. These 2 new Inspirons have 16GB RAM & 512 GB SDD. Is it worth going for the more expensive one is the lesser one also fine?

Another option is a Vostro which is a few more 1000s cheaper than the cheaper Inspiron but has 11th Gen Intel Core i5-1135G7 but has only8GB RAM (which seems good enough for me in my current laptop). But my current laptop runs Windows 10 & these newer ones have Windows 1

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The 'H' variants are always the beasts where as the G7 you mentioned is a 'U' variant. The 'U' variants are power sippers and are limited by their max TDP. In this case the H can draw 35W whereas the G7 can draw only 15W max. Also the onboard graphics are more powerful on the 'H' variant along with more RAM bandwidth. Go for the 'H' variant laptop if the budget allows.
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Go for the 'H' variant laptop if the budget allows.
I am not considering Affordability at all. I am concerned about the need.

My 5.5 year old i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz, 1800 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s) with 8GB RAM & 256 GB SSD is still great for me & the only reason I am replacing it is because spareparts aren't available to repair it.

Also, I don't understand the power consumption issue - does drawing power change anything other battery backup hours - asking because this laptop will only be used at home, so battery is not at all a consideration.
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I am not considering Affordability at all. I am concerned about the need.

My 5.5 year old i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz, 1800 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s) with 8GB RAM & 256 GB SSD is still great for me & the only reason I am replacing it is because spareparts aren't available to repair it.

Also, I don't understand the power consumption issue - does drawing power change anything other battery backup hours - asking because this laptop will only be used at home, so battery is not at all a consideration.
So basically it is like an engine - in different states of tune. 'H' is your normal engine, designed to operate optimally without any bottle neck. The G7 is your detuned engine, designed to run on low octane fuel . Don't see it as power consumption difference, rather the 'intent' of the processor. Broadly speaking, the G7 will be 10% to 25% slower across the board, compared to the 'H' variant. As I suggested, if it is for home use go with the 'H', it's not like the 'H' variant will be running out of battery all the time. Let's say the 'H' variant gets you 4hrs of battery during a certain task, the G7 might get you an hour extra for the same task, considering the rest of the laptop configuration is the same. But if you feel it will used for everyday tasks and light workloads, might as well save 10K and get the G7 variant. Posting both the model links here might get you better suggestions, maybe a similarly priced 12th/13th Gen or 7000 Ryzen laptop.

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I am not considering Affordability at all. I am concerned about the need.

My 5.5 year old i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz, 1800 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s) with 8GB RAM & 256 GB SSD is still great for me & the only reason I am replacing it is because spareparts aren't available to repair it.

Also, I don't understand the power consumption issue - does drawing power change anything other battery backup hours - asking because this laptop will only be used at home, so battery is not at all a consideration.
I agree with you, 7th-9th gen cpu are still enough in power for a lot of people. My laptop with i7-7700HQ is still sufficient for my needs. This is mainly because of the performance advantages of SSDs. I will still recommend you to upgrade to 16gb Ram if you browse a lot. I do a lot of browsing and pdf viewing and found that the upgrade was worth it.

Did you check sites like pctech and lapgadgets for spares you need?

At times like these, I really miss not having access to AliExpress. You could get any spare part of good quality at very affordable rates all the way from China. While now, you can roam all you want with cash in hand and still you can't get the spares.
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Any idea where I can get replacement speakers? Dell service center said they do not have in stock and cannot give any timelines. Cost is exorbitant too from Dell! Any outside sources where I can check?
I faced the same issue with my XPS 15, and could be resolved with replacement of speakers. You could get speakers replaced at 'SP Road' near Town Hall. Prices would vary and would advise you to visit few shops, before deciding on one.

I could find this site, which had the parts available. I can NOT vouch for them, so please do your due diligence.

https://www.xfurbish.com/dell-inspir...33in56vmez-New
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Did you check sites like pctech and lapgadgets for spares you need?
No, it's actually my laptop mechanic who checked from his regular supplier. I don't know what exactly is needed. He said he will try post Diwali - if he doesn't get it, then I will check these sites.

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Will a 11th gen i5 with 16GB RAM & 256 GB SSD be good enough for another 5 years? It's mostly browsing, netflix, hotstar, PDFs, youtube, social media, etc.

Also, any idea how a Dell Vostro is as compared to Dell Inspiron - what's the difference?
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Hi, I would like to know if anyone is using MSFS ( Flight Simulator)2020 on a laptop and what would be an optimum configuration for the same ? Its been long since I have played the Sim, feel like going back to the flight deck.
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Since your existing laptop has only 4 GB RAM, that could be a bottleneck. You should explore if RAM upgrade could solve the problem.
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Both my sons have Apple laptops - top of the line with the works, but I still prefer my Thinkpad.
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Unless there’s physical damage to the screen, it doesn’t get pixelated. What you’re seeing is probably windows running pretty bad due to a slow hard disk and very little RAM.

It’s. Thinkpad - pretty indestructible like a Toyota.

Upgrade the RAM to the max supported (most probably 16 gb) and a 1 tb ssd. It should work pretty well. Get a new battery if it has degraded ( it would have, considering it’s 4 years old)
Many thanks for your inputs guys. I think I goofed it a little here. The lenovo model isn't THINKPAD but the regular IDEAPAD . Really sorry for that. Like many of you have mentioned, the Thinkpad is indeed a solid laptop; but mine isn't the one.

Aside, I got the screen checked and it seems to have blown up. The guy even tried replacing the cable thinking that might be the culprit; but it didn't help. The screen indeed has gone bad.

Aside, the battery too has gotten very weak with only 1 out of 4 cells working efficiently with a backup of hardly 2 hours max.

Since the laptop has now become obsolete, sourcing the original parts is a pain and more importantly very expensive. Getting the alternate parts too doesn't make sense as they won't be original and obviously with no warranty / guarantee.

The total cost of replacing the screen + battery (both 1st copies) coupled with 4 gigs of RAM & 256 gigs SSD costs nearly 12-13k that too with no assurance of the longevity. The service guy is a known fella and hence he recommended against repairing and advised to get a new laptop, which will serve for next 5-6 years comfortably.

I am taking out 1TB HDD from the current laptop and converting it into an external HD and will be selling the laptop. My service guy says that it's fetching around 4.5k max! Does that sound okay for a 4.5 year old 8GB, i3, 7th Gen, blown up screen, no Hard disk laptop?

Aside, I'm kinda back to square one hunting for a new laptop.

Primarily now looking for (a little more refined now) ,

- Screen size = 14" / Lightweight
- Full HD (or better) display
- Processor = i5 - 11 / 12 Gen's as the 13's are on a higher side.
- 512 GB SDD.
- RAM possibly upto 16 GB for future proofing.
- Good battery life (as she has to work on lot of presentations)
- Good looks (not priority).
- With regards to brands = Dell > lenovo > HP; but I think Dell laptops are slightly pricier than the two.

EDIT: Update on the budget = 50 - 55k INR.

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My service guy says that it's fetching around 4.5k max! Does that sound okay for a 4.5 year old 8GB, i3, 7th Gen, blown up screen, no Hard disk laptop?
IMHO, consider yourself lucky that you are getting 4.5 k. Get rid of it asap.

Look at the thinkpad E 14 series. It meets all of your requirements. This is what I got more than 1.5 years back, and it’s holding up like a champ. Somehow I feel thinkpad age well as compared to Dell.

EDIT: Lenovo has a Diwali sale going on. You might be able to get a good bargain / offer.
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- Screen size = 14" / Lightweight
- Full HD (or better) display
- Processor = i5 - 11 / 12 Gen's as the 13's are on a higher side.
- 512 GB SDD.
- RAM possibly upto 16 GB for future proofing.
- Good battery life (as she has to work on lot of presentations)
- Good looks (not priority).
- With regards to brands = Dell > lenovo > HP; but I think Dell laptops are slightly pricier than the two.

EDIT: Update on the budget = 50 - 55k INR.
Check if you can still find something from Asus Zenbook series with Ryzen 5600 processor. Those slim and lightweight MIL STD 810 grade things last forever on the single charge. Zenbook's touchpad also doubles as numbpad which is handy. You can check them in person on the Asus exclusive stores near you.

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IMHO, consider yourself lucky that you are getting 4.5 k. Get rid of it asap.

Look at the thinkpad E 14 series. It meets all of your requirements. This is what I got more than 1.5 years back, and it’s holding up like a champ. Somehow I feel thinkpad age well as compared to Dell.

EDIT: Lenovo has a Diwali sale going on. You might be able to get a good bargain / offer.
I totally agrees.

1. Get rid of the laptop ASAP. You will never get such a price in future.

2. Thinkpad E14 is a gem of a laptop. I got mine with Ryzen 5000 series, 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD. Added another 8GB RAM to get 24GB.

In the current scenario RAM is cheap so get as much as the laptop supports. Higher capacity SSD are nice to have, but of little use. You are better off with external USB disks. USBC port is as fast as the internal SSD bus so you will never have a disk speed bottleneck. I use external disks mainly for backup and archival storage. The only exception is GIS and Sattelite image priocessing that require hundreds of GB data, but the external disk keeps up with the required speed.
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Check if you can still find something from Asus Zenbook series with Ryzen 5600 processor. Those slim and lightweight MIL STD 810 grade things last forever on the single charge. Zenbook's touchpad also doubles as numbpad which is handy. You can check them in person on the Asus exclusive stores near you.
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I totally agrees.

1. Get rid of the laptop ASAP. You will never get such a price in future.

2. Thinkpad E14 is a gem of a laptop. I got mine with Ryzen 5000 series, 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD. Added another 8GB RAM to get 24GB.
Thank your for your responses.

Yes, selling it for 4.5K; surely laptop's have very poor resale anyway; and a broken one is even worse.

Just a quick query since I have a very limited knowledge on the processors - are these AMD Ryzen's just as good and reliable as intel processors? I was banking on Intel i5 since we've have been using htme for ages now and I thought that nothing comes close.

The Thinkpad goes outta my budget as mine is limited to 50 - 55k INR.

Aside, I had shortlisted 2 laptops yesterday on Flipkart (Priced at 49k INR) and felt that they offer quite decent specs for the price; but sadly when I went to place an order today their prices shot up by a whopping 15k INR !!

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