Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras

Samurai · 19th January 2011, 15:10

Just got my 9-18mm f/4.0-5.6 M.Zuiko lens. This will be my primary offroad camera gear. EFL is 18-36mm, this will be interesting.

amitk26 · 19th January 2011, 15:20

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Originally Posted by Samurai

Just got my 9-18mm f/4.0-5.6 M.Zuiko lens. This will be my primary offroad camera gear. EFL is 18-36mm, this will be interesting.

9-18

thats going to be ultra ultra wide .. At-least if there is a way to mount that on DSLR or Sony NEX.

BTW : How much it costs ?

typeOnegative · 19th January 2011, 21:05

@amit, I think Samurai has mentioned that the Equivalent Focal Length is 18-36mm. Which means at it's widest this would be the same as an 18-55mm kit lens at its widest. Or no?

Samurai · 20th January 2011, 00:08

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Originally Posted by amitk26

9-18

thats going to be ultra ultra wide .. At-least if there is a way to mount that on DSLR or Sony NEX.

BTW : How much it costs ?

The MSRP was $700, but got it for $569 from Amazon.com.

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Originally Posted by typeOnegative

@amit, I think Samurai has mentioned that the Equivalent Focal Length is 18-36mm. Which means at it's widest this would be the same as an 18-55mm kit lens at its widest. Or no?

18-55mm kit lens on what crop factor? The AF-S 18-55mm has a EFL of 27-82.5mm.

Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 9-18mm 1:4-5.6 Lens Review: 1. Introduction: Digital Photography Review

typeOnegative · 20th January 2011, 06:47

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Originally Posted by Samurai

18-55mm kit lens on what crop factor? The AF-S 18-55mm has a EFL of 27-82.5mm.

Knew there was a catch somewhere. That lens you have then sir, is wide. Really wide.

Waiting to see the pics now.

tsk1979 · 20th January 2011, 11:00

Its 2mm narrower than my 10-24 Tamron on 1.6 Crop. that's a lot on the wide end.

amitk26 · 20th January 2011, 11:30

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

Its 2mm narrower than my 10-24 Tamron on 1.6 Crop. that's a lot on the wide end.

Ya but think what it will be on Sony NEX because it has same corp factor , micro 4/3 is 2X , I think it should be fully possible to fabricate Micro 4/3 to NEX mount but don't know if this zuiko has manual aperture control.

tsk1979 · 20th January 2011, 12:15

No, I am saying that my tamron is 16mm equiv on the wide end, and Samurai will be 18mm on the wide end.
So my lens is a lot wider.
To get a proper ultra wide like feeling you need a 7-14 kind of lens on micro 4/3 cams.

vinaydas · 21st January 2011, 01:27

what about video's ?? are there any EVIL camera's that can match the video capability of say the cannon 60D or 7D??

tsk1979 · 21st January 2011, 11:16

Actually Panasonic GH2 exceeds the video capability of 7D/550D/60D because
1. Continuous AF in video mode
2. True 1080P, not upscaled like the Canon
3. True 3X (or was it 4X) zoom available over the focal length in video mode.

vinaydas · 21st January 2011, 21:27

^^ It does cost close to what we pay for a 7D so does it justify the tag?
how much does it retail for in India(if it is available )?

tsk1979 · 21st January 2011, 22:02

7D?
Panasonic GH2 14-140mm kit which is 28-280 equiv cost 1300$
However 7D with a 18-200 lens will cost around 1800$

vinaydas · 22nd January 2011, 07:12

@Tsk my bad i got the prices wrong from ebay.

How ever i feel the switch from SLR to EVIL platform will take place only after Nikkon and Cannon join the band.

typeOnegative · 22nd January 2011, 07:16

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Originally Posted by vinaydas

@Tsk my bad i got the prices wrong from ebay.

How ever i feel the switch from SLR to EVIL platform will take place only after Nikkon and Cannon join the band.

Why should there be a switch. I think that they should co-exist.

Fillmore · 22nd January 2011, 10:41

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Originally Posted by typeOnegative

Why should there be a switch. I think that they should co-exist.

I too feel the switch will happen from both ends pretty soon, Left to be seen what % of the following 2 segments will switch faster

DSLR > EVIL
Point n Shoot > EVIL

19th January 2011, 15:10	#121
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,826 Thanked: 45,514 Times View My Garage	re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras Just got my 9-18mm f/4.0-5.6 M.Zuiko lens. This will be my primary offroad camera gear. EFL is 18-36mm, this will be interesting.
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19th January 2011, 21:05	#123
typeOnegative Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vikhroli, Mumbai, India Posts: 1,503 Thanked: 27 Times	re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras @amit, I think Samurai has mentioned that the Equivalent Focal Length is 18-36mm. Which means at it's widest this would be the same as an 18-55mm kit lens at its widest. Or no?
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20th January 2011, 11:00	#126
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras Its 2mm narrower than my 10-24 Tamron on 1.6 Crop. that's a lot on the wide end.
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20th January 2011, 12:15	#128
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras No, I am saying that my tamron is 16mm equiv on the wide end, and Samurai will be 18mm on the wide end. So my lens is a lot wider. To get a proper ultra wide like feeling you need a 7-14 kind of lens on micro 4/3 cams.
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21st January 2011, 01:27	#129
vinaydas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,399 Thanked: 148 Times	re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras what about video's ?? are there any EVIL camera's that can match the video capability of say the cannon 60D or 7D??
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21st January 2011, 11:16	#130
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras Actually Panasonic GH2 exceeds the video capability of 7D/550D/60D because 1. Continuous AF in video mode 2. True 1080P, not upscaled like the Canon 3. True 3X (or was it 4X) zoom available over the focal length in video mode.
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21st January 2011, 21:27	#131
vinaydas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,399 Thanked: 148 Times	re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras ^^ It does cost close to what we pay for a 7D so does it justify the tag? how much does it retail for in India(if it is available )? Last edited by vinaydas : 21st January 2011 at 21:41.
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21st January 2011, 22:02	#132
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras 7D? Panasonic GH2 14-140mm kit which is 28-280 equiv cost 1300$ However 7D with a 18-200 lens will cost around 1800$
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22nd January 2011, 07:12	#133
vinaydas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,399 Thanked: 148 Times	re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras @Tsk my bad i got the prices wrong from ebay. How ever i feel the switch from SLR to EVIL platform will take place only after Nikkon and Cannon join the band.
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