re: The Ultimate B2-Segment Hatchbacks Comparison! Thanks to everyone who have lauded this humble (and rather flawed) try from me. I promise to do better in the future. Quote:
Originally Posted by nkrishnap From when did punto start having heavy clutch? I guess its supposed to be long clutch travel. Also the performance is just blown out of proportion to show that punto is a tortoise and all The other cars are hare. |
Long travel clutch! That was what I was looking to describe, but had an attack of loss of words. Thanks, bud!
Punto is a great performer and pretty sprightly in it's own right. Quote:
Originally Posted by tj123 Definition of premium is getting faded as lot of low end cars have very good features these days especially the safety ones.
I think with so many classes of hatch back it is best to classify them into segments of 1.5 to 3 , 3 to 4 , 4 to 5, 5 to 7 and 7+ lac class of vehicle. With price as a common benchmark it is easy for anyone to gauge what he is getting for his buck and what car make most economic sense to buy and own. |
Sound criteria for distinguishing, IMO. The i10 being a perfect example of a premium low-cost hatch, Quote:
Originally Posted by carfreak77 Great thread started here RavenAvi!
IMO, the Liva & Vista cannot be considered as "premium hatchbacks". The Liva has cost cutting evident everywhere, thus I do not see it as a premium hatch. Vista, well having the dials in the center of the dash is another form of cost cutting.
Jazz is a great handler, even better than the Polo (thats probably because I have upgraded my tyres). |
Totally agree, bud. Quote:
Originally Posted by Sn1p3r Err... A mistimed comparison I must say.
Jazz/Swift have recently been upgraded so the quality is a bit different than earlier iterations. Swift also gets variable timing.
IMHO the decision and discussion are too confusing for the reader. Please get all the info at one place and then let's start discussion. The perspective is lost with too many comments between the line.
Great thread. Cheers! |
LOL! I agree that a lot of good viewpoints have gotten lost in translation. Wish I had the ability to edit posts after the initial 30 minutes. Quote:
Originally Posted by mdsaab Hey the thread is up and looks fantastic.
Its going to be a huge help for folks looking out for a premium hatch.
I feel the Liva can be considered as a premium hatch due to two reasons the space on offer and the price tag. Sure it does not come with many goodies. But for someone for whom space is a big criteria it would help by including it in this list.
From my angle cars like the a-star,alto, spark etc are the basic hatches. While mostly all above them are premium ones. Barring the beat though as it is not too clearly positioned. This ofcourse is strictly IMO.
Thanks RavenAVI for starting this wonderful thread.
I am going to keep a close watch on it. As i am in the market for a new hatch for my wife in the not too distant future.
Maybe after the Brio is launched we can decide whether that should make it to this thread too. |
Toyota has badged the Liva at a premium price. The top variant sells for 7L+ in some states, and that alone pushes it into this thread. Even though the cost cutting brings it down into the Vista, Figo, etc. territory. Brio should be priced and placed in this bracket, taking directly on the i10 and Figo, IMO. Quote:
Originally Posted by maverickxx2006 Can you help me understand about mileage being negative point for Punto?
Are you talking for Petrol or Diesel? |
Petrol. The MJD is a pretty good FE performer. Quote:
Originally Posted by Sn1p3r Too many hatch request. Premium is lost for if all variants are considered. I request Ravi to re-work the list with specific variant name, else Swift Lxi and Zxi both will be considered premium. Similarly Polo 1.6 and 1.2.
This thread has greatest potential to make it as the most read thread ever |
I agree as well. However, the model offered in the price range makes for an interesting comparision, rather than comparing specific variants of models. Base variant of any model cannot be considered premium, unless it is chock full of goodies and features, IMO. The only one I can think of is the Jazz S, which comes pretty decently loaded for it's price.
Thanks for the good wishes, my friend! Let's hope it does! |