MSIL discontinues old swift. EDIT : New Swift LAUNCHED!

fuel_addict · 9th August 2011, 10:41

The reviews talk about turbo lag and loss of mid range punch for the diesel but none of them mention if the torque peaks at 2K rpm or 1750 rpm as reported elsewhere. If the fuel efficiency has been improved, the turbo spooling rpm had to be reduced. Or else in what way has the engine been tweaked? I can't imagine Maruti achieving better FE by just replacing the fuel tank with plastic material.

vinya_jag · 9th August 2011, 10:43

I somehow feel the new swift is a raw deal for India.

The engine bay has space for a bigger engine which is to be sold only outside India, and we get a 1.2 engine with a lot of empty space in the engine bay. (I guess we could pack some of our eatables here as there is that much lesser space in the boot)

And 15 In wheels but 165/80 tyres as stock equipment?
And the ride is a little on the taller side for the Indian variant.
Nothing to aid its sporty handling. I have managed to lift a wheel off the road a few times (Scary). Again the European versions will have lower ride and wider tyres, which again is a raw deal for us.

I was hoping for an improvement in the Dash layout. It still has a lot of plastic. (You could stick posters of your fav Football players on the dash and still have some space left). It neither provides roominess nor aids visibility.

After so many years, and so much competition around, Suzuki has done so less. :(

adimicra · 9th August 2011, 10:44

Does anyone know if the new Swift has auto-up window on the driver side. AFAIK, the old done only had auto down but not auto up

ashok_lat · 9th August 2011, 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by anoop.mathew

The ZDi is looking to be a real good buy if I can get it on-road for 7lakhs or lesser.

No way ZDI on-road price will be 7 Lakhs or lesser. In my opinion it will be 7.5 Lacs or more. But as you told 7 Lakhs or lesser will be great.

rajoy123 · 9th August 2011, 11:18

swift pics.. the real thing

arun_josie · 9th August 2011, 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by adimicra

Does anyone know if the new Swift has auto-up window on the driver side. AFAIK, the old done only had auto down but not auto up

I think it will have auto-up window because the current Dzire ZDI has both auto-up and auto down on driver side for all windows. Also, driver can lock the auto-up/auto-down for other three windows as a safety measure when kids are around.

fuel_addict · 9th August 2011, 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by arun_josie

I think it will have auto-up window because the current Dzire ZDI has both auto-up and auto down on driver side for all windows. Also, driver can lock the auto-up/auto-down for other three windows as a safety measure when kids are around.

Auto-up and auto-down for all windows in DZire?? Are you sure? We are not talking about power windows but one-touch down/up feature.

Even cars 2 segments higher don't have the one touch up/down feature except for the driver's side window.

volkman10 · 9th August 2011, 12:34

List of changes seen in the New Swift. Follow this link.

New Maruti Swift: All the details, specs and features

Cheers!

Praveen Rao · 9th August 2011, 13:18

The car looks awesome

but somehow I get reminded of the i20

. Its expected to be priced at 6 lakhs ex showroom Mumbai for the ZXI variant. That's a lot of money for a hatch back considering the interiors have not changed much and there are sedans available for maybe a lakh more.

volkman10 · 9th August 2011, 14:17

Maruti has posted the first official image of the new Swift on its Facebook page. The new Swift gets all new interiors, similar exteriors and retains the same powertrains

Cheers!

anekho · 9th August 2011, 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by anoop.mathew

The ZDi is looking to be a real good buy if I can get it on-road for 7lakhs or lesser.

Add a Pete's box and upgrade the tyres to 195/60 R15 and that would be one sweet ride!

I'm guessing ZDi will be something like 6.2 ex-showroom, so depending on the city 7L OTR looks possible!

I'm having the same thoughts about the Petes box! But I want 195/55 R16's on my Swift

arun_josie · 9th August 2011, 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuel_addict

Auto-up and auto-down for all windows in DZire?? Are you sure? We are not talking about power windows but one-touch down/up feature.

Even cars 2 segments higher don't have the one touch up/down feature except for the driver's side window.

Sorry, one-touch down/up feature is not there. I was talking about power windows. I will check that in the driver side door this evening.

deetjohn · 9th August 2011, 16:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuel_addict

Auto-up and auto-down for all windows in DZire?? Are you sure? We are not talking about power windows but one-touch down/up feature.

Even cars 2 segments higher don't have the one touch up/down feature except for the driver's side window.

The Fiat Punto has "auto down" for all windows. I was very surprised to see it. IIRC, it is there in all models except for Active, the base variant.

I guess, manufacturers don't give "Auto up" without anti pinch windows as it is a safety hazard. And maybe this makes "Auto up" too costly for the hatchbacks.

But having "Auto up/ down" on the driver side is very convenient. Had it on the Swift LDi which had Autocop power windows with Auto up & down for all windows.

anoop.mathew · 9th August 2011, 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by anekho

I'm guessing ZDi will be something like 6.2 ex-showroom, so depending on the city 7L OTR looks possible!

I'm having the same thoughts about the Petes box! But I want 195/55 R16's on my Swift

195/55 R16's will mean new alloys and I (a) like the OEM alloys and (b) don't think I'll have enough vitamin M for new 16" alloys.

serious_maniac · 9th August 2011, 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by arun_josie

Sorry, one-touch down/up feature is not there. I was talking about power windows. I will check that in the driver side door this evening.

Any auto-up feature will need to have "anti-pinch" feature whereby if there is any obstruction then the windows roll back down. Without "anti-pinch" and with auto-up / one-touch up its a big safety issue.

Swift / Swift Dzire do not have "anti-pinch" and thus I doubt if they have one-touch up feature as well.

~maniac

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fuel_addict BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 692 Thanked: 121 Times	The reviews talk about turbo lag and loss of mid range punch for the diesel but none of them mention if the torque peaks at 2K rpm or 1750 rpm as reported elsewhere. If the fuel efficiency has been improved, the turbo spooling rpm had to be reduced. Or else in what way has the engine been tweaked? I can't imagine Maruti achieving better FE by just replacing the fuel tank with plastic material.
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vinya_jag BHPian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 617 Thanked: 1,226 Times	Re: MSIL discontinues old swift, begins production for all new model for August launc I somehow feel the new swift is a raw deal for India. The engine bay has space for a bigger engine which is to be sold only outside India, and we get a 1.2 engine with a lot of empty space in the engine bay. (I guess we could pack some of our eatables here as there is that much lesser space in the boot) And 15 In wheels but 165/80 tyres as stock equipment? And the ride is a little on the taller side for the Indian variant. Nothing to aid its sporty handling. I have managed to lift a wheel off the road a few times (Scary). Again the European versions will have lower ride and wider tyres, which again is a raw deal for us. I was hoping for an improvement in the Dash layout. It still has a lot of plastic. (You could stick posters of your fav Football players on the dash and still have some space left). It neither provides roominess nor aids visibility. After so many years, and so much competition around, Suzuki has done so less. :(
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adimicra Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,007 Thanked: 2,443 Times	Re: MSIL discontinues old swift, begins production for all new model for August launc Does anyone know if the new Swift has auto-up window on the driver side. AFAIK, the old done only had auto down but not auto up
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volkman10 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: -- Posts: 23,432 Thanked: 67,870 Times View My Garage	Re: MSIL discontinues old swift, begins production for all new model for August launc List of changes seen in the New Swift. Follow this link. New Maruti Swift: All the details, specs and features Cheers!
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Praveen Rao Newbie Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2 Thanked: 0 Times	Re: MSIL discontinues old swift, begins production for all new model for August launc The car looks awesome but somehow I get reminded of the i20 . Its expected to be priced at 6 lakhs ex showroom Mumbai for the ZXI variant. That's a lot of money for a hatch back considering the interiors have not changed much and there are sedans available for maybe a lakh more.
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volkman10 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: -- Posts: 23,432 Thanked: 67,870 Times View My Garage	Re: MSIL discontinues old swift, begins production for all new model for August launc Maruti has posted the first official image of the new Swift on its Facebook page. The new Swift gets all new interiors, similar exteriors and retains the same powertrains Cheers!
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