SCOOP : VW Golf Spotted Testing In Pune, India

BurningHeart · 31st December 2013, 15:16

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Originally Posted by nitinbose

Went and had an even more detailed look. It quite a junior Passat! Also managed to get a peek of the interior!

You meant "junior jetta"? They share a platform. Not eaxctly passat. The former two share A series platform and the latter one uses B series platform of VW.

***After posting I saw the MQB war going on already :-)

The MQB currently caters to Golf and Jetta from VW and few others such as the new Octy. You can read here. But the MQB is not yet being used for Passat and Phaeton. But there is a news that 2014 Passat (which VW recently hinted they will be launching towards the end of 2014) is possibly based on MQB. Read here about it.

v.anand · 31st December 2013, 15:25

Golf and Jetta are priced almost on par with higher models of Golf being more expensive. This model shares platform with Skoda Octavia and VW prices it more than that too. As for VFM, whether it is worth it, it surely is. Its an engineering marvel and World Car of the Year, no mean feat that. Sincerely hope VW gets Golf to India.

nitinbose · 31st December 2013, 15:28

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Originally Posted by StarScream

But the Bluemotion is a top of the range Golf that gets road tax advantages because of its low CO2 emissions.

Would it? I have not seen any such tax advantages for the Passat which comes with Bluemotion. If yes, then the dealer was probably trying to milk me!

StarScream · 31st December 2013, 15:37

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Originally Posted by nitinbose

Would it? I have not seen any such tax advantages for the Passat which comes with Bluemotion. If yes, then the dealer was probably trying to milk me!

In the U.K., not here. My apologies for the confusion.

Santoshbhat · 31st December 2013, 17:04

The VW Golf competes in the same class as the Skoda Octavia in the UK. Prices are almost on par if not higher. Now people on this forum are finding it difficult to digest the prices of the new Octavia. There is no way in the world our market will accept a VW hatchback at 20L+ no matter how good it is.

In fact the Jetta (Golf with a boot) is there precisely for markets like ours, where hatchbacks have a price resistance barrier. But I do hope they bring in a Golf GTi as a halo product for us enthusiasts to drool over and talk about.

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vb-saan · 31st December 2013, 17:16

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Originally Posted by StarScream

I think things have changed in our market enough to have this as a low volume, niche product. If BMW can launch the 1-Series and Mercedes the A-Class (and the latter is apparently sold out) then clearly there's a market. VW is responsible for this change to some extent with the Polo GT versions.
I think the Golf can slot in between the Vento and Jetta. It is an iconic VW product and the brand will benefit from its halo even as they work on cheaper cars.

Yes, I believe the market is now warming up to products like the Golf. That said, in the international markets its priced above the Jetta, and I doubt if VW will dilute its iconic model’s value by pricing it between the Vento and Jetta. Personally, I would prefer a Golf over the Jetta, even if the former is priced higher.

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Originally Posted by StarScream

The Golf will not be competition for the A-Class by a long shot.

Check out this comparison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTzdd_9fzQA

Parm · 31st December 2013, 19:41

Jetta is often called a Golf with a boot.

Anyway nice to see the Golf in India, VW must be considering a Golf since BWM1 and MB A Class have been launched in India.

On the contrary, both BMW1 and MB A were launched in Europe to take on the Golf!

1.2 TSI (Polo/Vento engine) or 1.4 TSI (Jetta engine) could be launched to keep the costs down otherwise the Golf wont do justice to its launch.

An iconic product if not launched with proper engine and price will be nothing much worth its pedigree!

VW

harishpr · 1st January 2014, 19:04

VW as a brand in India, is a little lost. It's neither seen as a competitor to Maruti /Hyundai/Honda, nor the 3 luxury brands (BMW/AUDI /BENZ).

It's unable to compete with its own skoda, and there is no market that it really fits.
Passat is easily comparable to the luxury sedans double it's price, but it just isn't seen as a competitor.
If they bring Golf to India, it will be a flop even before it's launch. Customers looking at Merc A, or BMW 1 series, won't even consider golf (due to the brand image).

VW has amazing product line, but it will be tough to see success in India unless they go all out to localize heavily and sell at competitive price.

magikrider · 22nd December 2014, 01:13

Bumping this thread.

^^
Heck I would much prefer a Golf GTI or even better, a Golf R rather than buying a Merc A, BMW 1 series or Audi A3. But the price of a Golf R would be something like a Mitsu Evo and hence a dud! But wish VW would get the Golf range here soon now!

Carpainter · 22nd December 2014, 13:27

If I'm not wrong then I don't think they have any plan to launch Golf anytime soon. Their next big launch is 2015 Jetta. Other car in the pipeline could be new Passat and Taigun. So I think it is safe to forget Golf for atleast two more years from now.

MunnabhaiMBBS · 22nd December 2014, 18:40

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Originally Posted by sajusherief

Thanks for the scoop mikon. It's a right hand drive car that i can see here, so can't really rule out that they don't have any plan for India release.

I kinda Disagree. VW Golfs available in the UK & Australian markets are also right hand drive cars. It's not that they have developed this right hand drive mule specifically for India. It's more of a case of testing different engine parameters as mentioned in the introductory post.

khanak · 22nd December 2014, 20:15

As much as I love the Golf, there is no way it would do well in India. People will think it's a typo when they see that a Golf costs more than the Jetta.

spyder_p8 · 23rd December 2014, 09:29

Last week Ii was speaking to someone close to VW India, precisely from there communication department. VW do not have any plans to launch this in India yet. This could be purely for research or export purpose. They already have the Aurangabad plant dedicated to CKDs.

avishar · 3rd November 2015, 11:59

A 1.2Tsi Golf has sneaked in a few days back. I wonder, is VW even considering it? Can a Golf be competitively priced by taking advantage of the 1.2 rule?

KiloAlpha · 3rd November 2015, 12:29

The Golf is 4269mm long. So, no sub-4m benefits for it. Maybe VW has decided to jump on to the premium hatchback bandwagon with the Golf as their offering.

It will work in India only if it is priced between the Polo and Vento. Which probably means Polo prices need to be dropped by around 75K across all variants, and Vento prices should be kept firm.

And Golf pricing between Polo and Vento will happen only if it is going to be heavily localised.

I am wondering - is it just a test mule for an engine or ECU or some other system?

31st December 2013, 15:25	#62
v.anand BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 329 Thanked: 44 Times	Re: Spotted: Volkswagen Golf! Golf and Jetta are priced almost on par with higher models of Golf being more expensive. This model shares platform with Skoda Octavia and VW prices it more than that too. As for VFM, whether it is worth it, it surely is. Its an engineering marvel and World Car of the Year, no mean feat that. Sincerely hope VW gets Golf to India.
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31st December 2013, 17:04	#65
Santoshbhat Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2011 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,345 Thanked: 6,852 Times View My Garage	Re: Spotted: Volkswagen Golf! The VW Golf competes in the same class as the Skoda Octavia in the UK. Prices are almost on par if not higher. Now people on this forum are finding it difficult to digest the prices of the new Octavia. There is no way in the world our market will accept a VW hatchback at 20L+ no matter how good it is. In fact the Jetta (Golf with a boot) is there precisely for markets like ours, where hatchbacks have a price resistance barrier. But I do hope they bring in a Golf GTi as a halo product for us enthusiasts to drool over and talk about. . Last edited by Santoshbhat : 31st December 2013 at 17:07.
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31st December 2013, 19:41	#67
Parm Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: in a Toyota! Posts: 2,753 Thanked: 890 Times	Re: Spotted: Volkswagen Golf! Jetta is often called a Golf with a boot. Anyway nice to see the Golf in India, VW must be considering a Golf since BWM1 and MB A Class have been launched in India. On the contrary, both BMW1 and MB A were launched in Europe to take on the Golf! 1.2 TSI (Polo/Vento engine) or 1.4 TSI (Jetta engine) could be launched to keep the costs down otherwise the Golf wont do justice to its launch. An iconic product if not launched with proper engine and price will be nothing much worth its pedigree! VW Last edited by Parm : 31st December 2013 at 19:42.
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1st January 2014, 19:04	#68
harishpr BHPian Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 517 Thanked: 468 Times	VW as a brand in India, is a little lost. It's neither seen as a competitor to Maruti /Hyundai/Honda, nor the 3 luxury brands (BMW/AUDI /BENZ). It's unable to compete with its own skoda, and there is no market that it really fits. Passat is easily comparable to the luxury sedans double it's price, but it just isn't seen as a competitor. If they bring Golf to India, it will be a flop even before it's launch. Customers looking at Merc A, or BMW 1 series, won't even consider golf (due to the brand image). VW has amazing product line, but it will be tough to see success in India unless they go all out to localize heavily and sell at competitive price.
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22nd December 2014, 01:13	#69
magikrider BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: MH-01 Posts: 513 Thanked: 119 Times	Re: SCOOP : VW Golf Spotted Testing In Pune, India Bumping this thread. ^^ Heck I would much prefer a Golf GTI or even better, a Golf R rather than buying a Merc A, BMW 1 series or Audi A3. But the price of a Golf R would be something like a Mitsu Evo and hence a dud! But wish VW would get the Golf range here soon now!
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22nd December 2014, 13:27	#70
Carpainter BHPian Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Kolkata Posts: 688 Thanked: 1,153 Times	Re: SCOOP : VW Golf Spotted Testing In Pune, India If I'm not wrong then I don't think they have any plan to launch Golf anytime soon. Their next big launch is 2015 Jetta. Other car in the pipeline could be new Passat and Taigun. So I think it is safe to forget Golf for atleast two more years from now.
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22nd December 2014, 20:15	#72
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,799 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	Re: SCOOP : VW Golf Spotted Testing In Pune, India As much as I love the Golf, there is no way it would do well in India. People will think it's a typo when they see that a Golf costs more than the Jetta.
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23rd December 2014, 09:29	#73
spyder_p8 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Pune Posts: 103 Thanked: 113 Times	Re: SCOOP : VW Golf Spotted Testing In Pune, India Last week Ii was speaking to someone close to VW India, precisely from there communication department. VW do not have any plans to launch this in India yet. This could be purely for research or export purpose. They already have the Aurangabad plant dedicated to CKDs.
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3rd November 2015, 11:59	#74
avishar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: kolkata/bangalore,india Posts: 2,901 Thanked: 4,143 Times	Re: SCOOP : VW Golf Spotted Testing In Pune, India A 1.2Tsi Golf has sneaked in a few days back. I wonder, is VW even considering it? Can a Golf be competitively priced by taking advantage of the 1.2 rule? Attached Thumbnails
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3rd November 2015, 12:29	#75
KiloAlpha Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Cubicle Posts: 1,605 Thanked: 3,002 Times	Re: SCOOP : VW Golf Spotted Testing In Pune, India The Golf is 4269mm long. So, no sub-4m benefits for it. Maybe VW has decided to jump on to the premium hatchback bandwagon with the Golf as their offering. It will work in India only if it is priced between the Polo and Vento. Which probably means Polo prices need to be dropped by around 75K across all variants, and Vento prices should be kept firm. And Golf pricing between Polo and Vento will happen only if it is going to be heavily localised. I am wondering - is it just a test mule for an engine or ECU or some other system?
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