Re: Pics & Report: 2013 Skoda Octavia unveiled @ Mumbai Quote:
Originally Posted by Tats07
1. Octavia 1.4 TSI (assuming 140 PS) 'highest trim' MT - 14.xx Lakhs? Since it has to be priced lower than existing Jetta? It will undo the Jetta TSI ( whatever little they have now) sales completely, but would VW mind? I somehow feel the 140 PS will not be given, it will be a 122 PS one at 14.xx. VW can make us happy though with a 140 PS version highest trim MT at 13.xx.
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Going by the current engine tunes for diesels, the Laura engine tune is identical to Jetta only for the DSG models. The manual gets about 30 HP decrease. I expect the same to happen with the next generation of Octavia as well. Don't be surprised to see lower state of tuning in the Skodas. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tats07
2. Octavia 1.8 TSI highest trim MT (if at all a manual is sold) - 15.xx? Priced little more than a Jetta Comfortline TSI since it has a bigger TSI block with more horses? Maintains the so called premium strategy. Or should it be 16.00?
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This is the onion, the TSI engine has become a legend in India, the slick shifting 6 speed manual gear box all the more so. Honestly, I just don't see them not offering manual as an option given the cult following this car has among Indian enthusiasts. But, then again who the heck knows? As of now there is only a DSG on tap. It will also be priced on par or slightly lower than the Jetta if the current strategy is being adhered to (making a reasonable allowance for cost of the gearbox). Quote:
Originally Posted by Tats07
3. Octavia 1.8 TSI DSG - 17.xx? 18.00?
Almost all of the options are expensive. The previous generation 1.8 TSI owners are the luckiest of the lot, and they are the ones who should be smiling when they think of the discounts they got for their fantastic machine and paid on road prices of 13.xx or 14.xx. We will never get 1.8 TSI at that price, maybe not even in the used car market since TSIs are hardly sold by owners. |
1) Expensive or not, the car is superior to anything the Japs, Koreans, or Americans can throw at it. It also offers better value than the Jetta. VAG have maintained that the car will offer better value than the current Laura. This could mean that either the existing prices will be maintained, or there will be a very marginal price hike to combat the falling rupee. Either way, going by the fact that an Altis Diesel top end comes to 19.XX lacs on road in Bangalore, ANY of the Octavias will be better value. A price drop will be mind boggling and not something we should expect. If it happens well and good. If not then you are still getting value for money.
2) Not all Laura owners got the discount. The massive discounts started a year or so after the facelifts perhaps right before the VRS was launched. One doesn't see too many on the used markets since the ones that are in enthusiast hands will stay in their hands, probably until they can't run any more. The chauffeur driven company crowd that opts for the petrol for refinement reasons, will either not sell due to poor resale value, or the cars have been destroyed by the drivers (have seen umpteen examples floating around Bombay); perhaps those of us who own the car in its MT avatar should be thankful for as long as the car survives and pray in the meantime that VAG decide to continue with the MT's; even though the Punto Abarth looks promising and ought to be a much more involved drivers experience, it is not as versatile as an Octavia VRS as an everyday car. If the 1.8 TSIs come in Manual versions, then base models could very well start at 16 lacs. We'll just have to wait and watch Quote:
Originally Posted by Tats07 OT: Can they at least give us poor souls a Vento 1.4 TSI or a Rapid 1.4 TSI rated at 122 PS and sold at 13.xx on road? |
Highly doubt they'd do this at-least for 3-4 years. Maybe on the next generation of Rapid or Vento, in the meantime, a 1.2 TSI with DSG maybe on the cards. Unfortunately pricing is an issue as it will be borderline base Octavia territory.
The Indian market needs to evolve where prices between top of the line and base models across segments start converging based on Engines and options. This will allow the manufacturers to offer all their European offerings in India and will certainly change our markets for the better. A single, rich, young college student would happily sped 12 lacs on a Polo 1.4TSI with manual transmission rather than drive a Vento/Rapid TDI
We have a long ways to got before we start getting solid engine options.
Last edited by imp! : 10th August 2013 at 14:48.
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