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Originally Posted by TheARUN Here are some suggestions for Mahindra on the Quanto
- Get rid of the two seats at the back and get the angle of the rear seat to recline, that way atleast 5 people can travel comfortably, now except the ones sitting in front, all are uncomfortable |
The recline is not the biggest issue per say, but I get what you are saying. Read below what I think of the seats.
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Originally Posted by TheARUN - The Quanto needs bigger tyres, take a look at the spare at the back, a bigger spare will definitely improve the looks and 16 inchers should be direct fit on the Quanto |
The tyre size is appropriate. You find the spare at the back to be small because of the huge metal (the boot door) on which it is fitted. Otherwise, for the car, the tyres are appropriately sized (this, coming from a guy who likes big wheels). I wouldn't really go for an upsize (mainly because it becomes expensive; you have to buy more expensive tyres and maybe even alloys), rather just change the tyre to a better one.
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Originally Posted by shankar.balan The Mahindra vehicles however, all have a nasty habit of rocking and swaying you from side to side, as a passenger. This leads to motion sickness, extreme discomfort on long journeys on bad roads or hill roads, constant, nagging neck and back aches and a general sense of ill-being. |
I agree that this issue definitely plagues the scorpio. However, the quanto is not that bad. It is very much tolerable by most people who have sat in my car. The body roll is definitely controlled well, and the suspension manners have improved quite a bit. It's not in the league of innova, but I would say it's there almost 90%.
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Originally Posted by zenren Need of the day is a spacious and comfortable 5 seater with the boot space of a sedan and good ground clearance. Feature spec of a 5L hatch should be good enough for this segment; anything extra is unnecessarily inflating the price. Not to mention, looks should be clean and proportional too. |
The quanto is a spacious and pretty comfortable 5 seater with the boot space of the sedan (if you, like me, were to remove the rear-most jump seats) with a good ground clearance. From what I am reading on this forum (cannot comment on the general public's sentiment since I don't know about that), it's the looks which are the bane of most.
Anyways, here is what I personally think of this car. I have a soft spot personally for this car, so I will be a little biased to it.
If I were to look at the Quanto from Mahindra's perspective (knowing very well how the company operates), it is a very intelligent solution:
The market wants a car:
- comfortable 5 seater with good boot space
- fuel efficient
- cheap to service
- reliable
- SUV feel
- car like mannerisms
- status?? (not so sure on this)
The quanto is all of that except car like mannerisms. You sit high up, a true SUV feel, but it isn't car-like to drive like say an ertiga, duster and maybe eco-sport (I haven't driven one so it is an assumption) or any other competitors I may have missed out.
The body roll is present, but it is not bad per say. There are sedans/UV's out there which handle worse, and have more body roll (I am looking at you hyundai and tata).
I honestly cannot understand how the Indian mentality works per say. I think we as a public have herd mentality. We do not know what is good for us, and we will buy stuff (especially cars) which is popular. This is my observation only, and I cannot prove it.
So why does the quanto fail in our market? Honestly to me, here are the fatal flaws:
- Styling. As a current owner, this is what I hear from my friends and acquaintances. They do not find it appealing to the eyes. I, personally am ok with the styling.
- Versatility. This is my biggest grouse. The second row of seats are not reclinable, and have no 60:40 split, or cannot be even removed without spanners. The seat recline is fine for most people, but the way it is put in the car, you will not like to sit on it for long journeys. It is some-what like the ford endeavour's middle seat. I don't know how else to really describe it.
- The car still feels like a crude car. The finesse is missing. You sit in the driver's seat, you press the clutch, you slot the gears; while doing all this, there all those small vibrations that are so 'Mahindra'. The car is really built well to take abuse, but it is these small things which just make the overall experience so much better. There no rattles so to speak, but every once in a while, there is small squeak or vibration which typical for the mahindra cars.
Some myths that I'd like to bust about this car:
1. The car's suspension is hard, and the car has a lot of body roll.
Wrong. The body roll is present but pretty bearable. The suspension is hard initially when the car is new, but give it say 5-7k kms, and it settles down pretty nicely. It is never going to as good as duster or ertiga, but then the duster is pretty pricey for what it offers, and the ertiga just cannot take the kind of abuse this car can
2. Interior quality is bad.
Nope. The quality is acceptable. the main issue is some hard plastics are visible to the eyes, and the fit and finish is not as good as the competition. The plastics used in the car are actually pretty good and durable. Interior design is uninspiring to be honest. But, not a deal breaker for sure.
What are things which I really like about this car:
- The abuse friendliness. This is why I have bought it, and it really is good in this area. Just too good.
- A true SUV position. You sit above all.
- Cheap to buy and service.
- Parts availability in the after-market shouldn't be an issue.
- F.E. above
my expectations (which was pretty low to start with).
The way forward:
I am not the best person in this world to comment on what the market wants. So my suggestions are based purely from what my friends / acquaintances say, and based on internet research:
- Improve styling.
- Improve the versatility of the car.
Thanks,
Simple_car
P.S.: I would like to clarify what I mean by abuse friendliness, since my friend mentions to me that ertiga is a maruti, and maruti has been in India since so many years; their car's have been serving Indians since many years.
Yes, true that the ertiga or for that matter any other competitor of the quanto can easily survive in our conditions (roads, people etc.).
My definition of abuse friendliness is something else. You see, I give my car to multiple drivers (family members and our chauffeurs), who have different styles of driving and maintaining the car. Some run the clutch, some have no concept of slowing down for potholes, some have no idea that a car has to have a service after a particular duration... you get the idea. I can assure you, the ertiga/duster will not be able to survive the conditions I subject a vehicle too beyond a few years maybe. Mahindra cars in our family survive very well for us. They give us a lot less hassles and are a lot cheaper to maintain when something does go wrong.
So why not a toyota? Simple: Innova and fortuner are pretty big for our requirements, and not worth the price in my eyes. We have a tendency to replace our cars every 5-6 years. So investing in a toyota is not worth it.