Case: Out of State Cars vs RTO Bangalore

SILVERWOOD · 28th April 2015, 22:45

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Originally Posted by silversteed

Happened to see this news item in Bangalore Mirror:

First, the National Highways. Now, State Highways in KA. What next, a toll booth every 100m in the city? Or, maybe a pay-per-use system implemented with RFID all over the city/town?

Karnataka Govt has full authority to implement toll on any road they want.Karnataka govt can even install toll gates right in-front of your apartment/society,office entrance/exit, school-college entrance/exit.The day is not very far when one needs to pay entry fee to enter Karnataka borders as we pay when entering a Zoo.

Long live Sir Winston Churchill.

Waseem.....

wildsdi5530 · 29th April 2015, 07:56

I had gone to the RTO yesterday to pay tax for my FIL's car which will be used by my wife for a few months. The staff were very courteous and helpful. But I was told that there is no way a refund would be given once I send back the car. The only way would be to get a NOC, register in Karnataka and then get a NOC from Karnataka and re register in my FIL's place. So I would lose the fancy number that he has too. I explained to the officer that I was scared that my wife and kids would be harassed by the RTO inspectors and was told that they were not planning on the LTT drive now in spite of the lifting of the stay order. What's you advice guys? The LTT will be 80,000 for a 7 year old City.

suresh_gs · 29th April 2015, 08:05

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Originally Posted by wildsdi5530

I had gone to the RTO yesterday to pay tax for my FIL's car which will be used by my wife for a few months. The staff were very courteous and helpful. But I was told that there is no way a refund would be given once I send back the car. The only way would be to get a NOC, register in Karnataka and then get a NOC from Karnataka and re register in my FIL's place. So I would lose the fancy number that he has too. I explained to the officer that I was scared that my wife and kids would be harassed by the RTO inspectors and was told that they were not planning on the LTT drive now in spite of the lifting of the stay order. What's you advice guys? The LTT will be 80,000 for a 7 year old City.

Dont worry mate, Even I am in the same boat as you are. I own a TN registered Santro for which I paid LTT voluntarily amounting to Rs 32407 considering 4 year depreciation. But I chose not to change the number. Till Date no issues. You never know when these RTO guys will start seizing vehicles.
Either you do not use the vehicle for some days or choose to pay the LTT voluntarily so that your wife and kids are safe while driving the car.

In case you wish to sell your vehicle you can sell it to some IT folks who keep shuffling between cities based on clients requirement. In that situation the tax paid in multiple cities could come in handy.

sachinpk · 29th April 2015, 09:41

KA LTT - Discussion with Karanataka Minister (Mathrubhumi:Malayalam)
The above news report in Malayalam states that the Facebook group admins and Wasim Memon met the Karnataka Transport Minister to highlight the concerns on collecting Life Time Tax. They handed over the signatures and the on-line petition. As per the report the minister said that he may look into a provision which allows a tax collection done every year, but the Taxation Act needs to be amended again. This has to get debated in the state assembly as well. The report adds that what ever negotiations which happened between KL CM and Transport Minister is not yielding any much results on the ground.

Taking this up with the ministers I feel is a good approach, because it is not confrontational and more of a "give and take". But we need to wait and see what happens on the ground.

SILVERWOOD · 1st May 2015, 18:38

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Originally Posted by wildsdi5530

I had gone to the RTO yesterday to pay tax for my FIL's car which will be used by my wife for a few months. The staff were very courteous and helpful. But I was told that there is no way a refund would be given once I send back the car. The only way would be to get a NOC, register in Karnataka and then get a NOC from Karnataka and re register in my FIL's place. So I would lose the fancy number that he has too. I explained to the officer that I was scared that my wife and kids would be harassed by the RTO inspectors and was told that they were not planning on the LTT drive now in spite of the lifting of the stay order. What's you advice guys? The LTT will be 80,000 for a 7 year old City.

My answer is very simple;please do not waste money.80k is a big amount for me at least.

Send your car back and buy a second hand car like alto.A bhpian from Bangalore is selling it for 1.2L which is a very good deal.You will get a good price when you want to sell it again.

Waseem.....

sachinpk · 4th May 2015, 17:12

Mathrubhumi Malayalam - May 4th report
As per this report in Malayalam, Karnataka RTO has slowly kick started the LTT collection drive by checking a number of vehicles from AP.

H_Dogg72 · 7th May 2015, 05:32

I have a 5 month old polo gt Tsi in Delhi and will be moving to Bangalore for 3 years. I have to take my car with me, what are the options that I have so that I can keep it here legally?
Pay the lifetime road tax? I believe that will be quite a large sum as the car is not 2 years old.
Please help me find a solution.

suresh_gs · 7th May 2015, 08:21

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Originally Posted by H_Dogg72

I have a 5 month old polo gt Tsi in Delhi and will be moving to Bangalore for 3 years. I have to take my car with me, what are the options that I have so that I can keep it here legally?
Pay the lifetime road tax? I believe that will be quite a large sum as the car is not 2 years old.
Please help me find a solution.

You have just 1 option with you:

Bring your DL registered car to bangalore, pay LTT here and you can continue to drive without the need for changing the number plate assuming that you are not interested in getting refund from the parent RTO.
Since it is a brand new car, i dont think it is worthwhile for you to leave the car behind in delhi so that your friends/relatives can use the vehicle.

Be ready to shell out more money for LTT in Bangalore. Hopefully it does not make a hole in your wallet.

wildsdi5530 · 7th May 2015, 08:34

For a 5 month old GT TSi the LTT will be more than 1.5 lakhs. Plus you have to pay an entry tax of 20k. Not to mention freight. Please calculate the costs and choose wisely.

SoumenD · 7th May 2015, 09:16

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Originally Posted by H_Dogg72

I have a 5 month old polo gt Tsi in Delhi and will be moving to Bangalore for 3 years. I have to take my car with me, what are the options that I have so that I can keep it here legally?
Pay the lifetime road tax? I believe that will be quite a large sum as the car is not 2 years old.
Please help me find a solution.

3 years is a long time. Only option to drive around peacefully is by paying the LTT. I just paid ~43k for my 4 year old JH registered Estilo(although its lying in the parking as am in Australia for sometime now) which was around half the OTR of TSI. Do your maths

Am in full support of Waseem's drive but sadly till the time that materializes we have to go by the

no matter how unconstitutional they are.

Dry Ice · 7th May 2015, 10:42

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Originally Posted by H_Dogg72

I have a 5 month old polo gt Tsi in Delhi and will be moving to Bangalore for 3 years. I have to take my car with me, what are the options that I have so that I can keep it here legally?
Pay the lifetime road tax? I believe that will be quite a large sum as the car is not 2 years old.
Please help me find a solution.

LTT will easily cross the 1 lakh+ mark in your case. And that's not all, if you don't have your own place to stay in Bangalore, getting a rented accommodation will set you back with another lakh+ in advances.

Chetan_Rao · 7th May 2015, 11:16

Also remember that you'll forego a refund from KA RTO if you choose to ONLY pay LTT without re-registering.

I can empathize but under the current laws, you'll need to spend a good bunch for (legal) peace of mind. Choose wisely.

BulZire · 7th May 2015, 11:59

Not RTO officials but the normal traffic cops were stopping the other state cars and checking the papers near Infosys campus in electronics city yesterday afternoon. I saw a TN registered I10 being checked, He was let go after he pushed some 100's in the constable's hand

.

I think the traffic cops are also taking chances to grab some money after the recent update from court.

Vigkey · 7th May 2015, 12:17

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Originally Posted by H_Dogg72

I have a 5 month old polo gt Tsi in Delhi and will be moving to Bangalore for 3 years. I have to take my car with me, what are the options that I have so that I can keep it here legally?
Pay the lifetime road tax? I believe that will be quite a large sum as the car is not 2 years old.
Please help me find a solution.

The best possible solution is.

Get NOC from DL
Re-register the car in KA paying KA road-tax
Apply for refund in DL and use the car peacefully in KA

This way, you can at least HOPE to get back some LTT you paid in DL. Also, when you leave Bangalore in some years, you can follow the same procedure and HOPE to get back some money you paid in KA.

However, if money is not your concern and only peace of mind is. Then just pay LTT here and forget about the rest. As simple as that

bharatbs · 7th May 2015, 15:24

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Originally Posted by H_Dogg72

I have a 5 month old polo gt Tsi in Delhi and will be moving to Bangalore for 3 years. I have to take my car with me, what are the options that I have so that I can keep it here legally?
Pay the lifetime road tax? I believe that will be quite a large sum as the car is not 2 years old.
Please help me find a solution.

If Delhi RTO will give you a re-fund then I would suggest bringing it down and registering it Bangalore.

Bangalore has the highest re-sale value for used cars, so the LTT paid will not be a futile effort. I would estimate a difference of about 60-80K in the re-sale value of a three year old Polo TSI between DL and KA.

Please also factor in the cost to transport the car from Delhi to Blr.

29th April 2015, 07:56	#1412
wildsdi5530 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,464 Thanked: 2,097 Times	Re: Case: Out of State Cars vs RTO Bangalore I had gone to the RTO yesterday to pay tax for my FIL's car which will be used by my wife for a few months. The staff were very courteous and helpful. But I was told that there is no way a refund would be given once I send back the car. The only way would be to get a NOC, register in Karnataka and then get a NOC from Karnataka and re register in my FIL's place. So I would lose the fancy number that he has too. I explained to the officer that I was scared that my wife and kids would be harassed by the RTO inspectors and was told that they were not planning on the LTT drive now in spite of the lifting of the stay order. What's you advice guys? The LTT will be 80,000 for a 7 year old City.
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29th April 2015, 09:41	#1414
sachinpk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,583 Thanked: 1,517 Times	Re: Case: Out of State Cars vs RTO Bangalore KA LTT - Discussion with Karanataka Minister (Mathrubhumi:Malayalam) The above news report in Malayalam states that the Facebook group admins and Wasim Memon met the Karnataka Transport Minister to highlight the concerns on collecting Life Time Tax. They handed over the signatures and the on-line petition. As per the report the minister said that he may look into a provision which allows a tax collection done every year, but the Taxation Act needs to be amended again. This has to get debated in the state assembly as well. The report adds that what ever negotiations which happened between KL CM and Transport Minister is not yielding any much results on the ground. Taking this up with the ministers I feel is a good approach, because it is not confrontational and more of a "give and take". But we need to wait and see what happens on the ground.
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4th May 2015, 17:12	#1416
sachinpk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,583 Thanked: 1,517 Times	Re: Case: Out of State Cars vs RTO Bangalore Mathrubhumi Malayalam - May 4th report As per this report in Malayalam, Karnataka RTO has slowly kick started the LTT collection drive by checking a number of vehicles from AP.
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7th May 2015, 05:32	#1417
H_Dogg72 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: New Delhi Posts: 505 Thanked: 564 Times	Re: Case: Out of State Cars vs RTO Bangalore I have a 5 month old polo gt Tsi in Delhi and will be moving to Bangalore for 3 years. I have to take my car with me, what are the options that I have so that I can keep it here legally? Pay the lifetime road tax? I believe that will be quite a large sum as the car is not 2 years old. Please help me find a solution.
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7th May 2015, 08:34	#1419
wildsdi5530 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,464 Thanked: 2,097 Times	Re: Case: Out of State Cars vs RTO Bangalore For a 5 month old GT TSi the LTT will be more than 1.5 lakhs. Plus you have to pay an entry tax of 20k. Not to mention freight. Please calculate the costs and choose wisely.
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7th May 2015, 11:16	#1422
Chetan_Rao Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 6,770 Thanked: 28,175 Times	Also remember that you'll forego a refund from KA RTO if you choose to ONLY pay LTT without re-registering. I can empathize but under the current laws, you'll need to spend a good bunch for (legal) peace of mind. Choose wisely.
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7th May 2015, 11:59	#1423
BulZire BHPian Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: BLR[KA]/DPM[TN] Posts: 412 Thanked: 260 Times	Re: Case: Out of State Cars vs RTO Bangalore Not RTO officials but the normal traffic cops were stopping the other state cars and checking the papers near Infosys campus in electronics city yesterday afternoon. I saw a TN registered I10 being checked, He was let go after he pushed some 100's in the constable's hand . I think the traffic cops are also taking chances to grab some money after the recent update from court.
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