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Old 28th October 2018, 21:16   #181
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Why do they have such less window room at the rear! I have noticed this : the more "modern looking" a vehicle, the closer is the window to being just a slit.

Feels so claustrophobic, and motion sickness inducing (verified by testing upon me).
+1 that. Off late I have observed this trend. Not only does it feel claustrophobic inside but adds to the overweight weight of the vehicle even if by a little margin. The feeling of a roomy interior is something special. IMO, a tapering, narrow rear window from the outside somehow feels odd to look at.
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Walkaround video of the Tata 45X from Youtube Channel : Auto Comparo




Edit : Looks like this is a video version of the pic posted below by Volkman10

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The x451 hatch is powered by a 1.2L, 3-cylinder, naturally aspirated, all-new petrol engine, as per a birdie.

It will also have a mild hybrid option.
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The x451 hatch is powered by a 1.2L, 3-cylinder, naturally aspirated, all-new petrol engine, as per a birdie.

It will also have a mild hybrid option.
So they'll have five 1.2 petrol engines in production?

1.2 4 cylinder 90ps for Bolt and Zest.

1.2 3 cylinder NA petrol 84bhp for Tiago and Tigor.
1.2 3 cylinder new NA petrol for X451.

1.2 3 cylinder turbo 105hp for Nexon.
1.2 3 cylinder turbo 114hp for JTP twins.

Given how unimpressive the NA 3 cylinder was in Tiago - the premium X451 should get the Nexon turbo mill to be competent.
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The x451 hatch is powered by a 1.2L, 3-cylinder, naturally aspirated, all-new petrol engine, as per a birdie...
Why can't they just consolidate all these to 1 engine and different power outputs?! Make something super solid and drive versions leading to scale of manufacturing rather than experiment with so many engines.

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The 45x in production guise. Complete with finished lamps, alloy wheels and interiors. Couldn't get closer as I was being honked at.

In Coimbatore, about 20 minutes ago.
Thanks for clicking this - should be a t-bhp exclusive. I love how the headlamps look like, from the rear 3/4 view. Very close to the concept version.

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The 45x in production guise. Complete with finished lamps, alloy wheels and interiors. Couldn't get closer as I was being honked at.

In Coimbatore, about 20 minutes ago.


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So they'll have five 1.2 petrol engines in production?

1.2 4 cylinder 90ps for Bolt and Zest.

1.2 3 cylinder NA petrol 84bhp for Tiago and Tigor.
1.2 3 cylinder new NA petrol for X451.

1.2 3 cylinder turbo 105hp for Nexon.
1.2 3 cylinder turbo 114hp for JTP twins.

Given how unimpressive the NA 3 cylinder was in Tiago - the premium X451 should get the Nexon turbo mill to be competent.
My question is, are any of the 3 cylinder 1.2 engines ever going to result in a 1.6 4 cylinder engine? If not, then developing a 3 cylinder 1.2 is the most pointless excercise ever, and someone at TM is responsible for burning a lot of cash unnecessarily.
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The 45x in production guise. Complete with finished lamps, alloy wheels and interiors. Couldn't get closer as I was being honked at.

In Coimbatore, about 20 minutes ago.


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This one has a lot of Tiago in it. If you see the profile, the D-pillar is almost Tiago along with the belt line and the front, after the A-Pillar, is like Tiago too. Interesting times at Tata. I also wonder if they have plans to sell these car internationally in mature markets.
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The 45x in production guise. Complete with finished lamps, alloy wheels and interiors. Couldn't get closer as I was being honked at.

In Coimbatore, about 20 minutes ago
Great job! Good that you weren't noticed!

When I saw the 45X for the first time and started taking a video of it, the test driver came out and insisted that I delete the video. He was seriously pissed off! This guy was shouting at me but I ignored him to glance at the interiors! The instrument cluster looked attractive from what I remember.

Anyway, I do have the videos

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Although it just another hatch in the market, but it's a big one for Tata. It's the beginning of a new gen of vehicles to come on a brand new AMP platform. Till now the Tiago,Tigor and Nexon were based on the existing platforms. Now this AMP is supposed to spawn a sedan, MUV and so on similar to what heartect platform is to Maruti. This will be lighter stiffer and was engineered to suit hybrid/EV vehicle development. Also this same platform was being discussed with Volkswagen for their emerging car markets as a JV with Tata. Eagerly waiting for this one to hit the road.

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And, the images have been copied to a Rushlane article, already. No credits except for the watermark already here.

https://www.rushlane.com/tata-45x-ha...-12283005.html
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Great job! Good that you weren't noticed!

When I saw the 45X for the first time and started taking a video of it, the test driver came out and insisted that I delete the video. He was seriously pissed off! This guy was shouting at me but I ignored him to glance at the interiors! The instrument cluster looked attractive from what I remember.

Anyway, I do have the videos
Please take legible screenshots from the video and post here! The test driver may get pissed off, but there's nothing illegal about clicking pics of a car on a public road. That's the whole idea of camouflaging the test cars - that's the best any car manufacturer can do.

I've heard of test drivers politely asking not to click their test mules. Whether we listen to them or not is our business!
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Nice scoop. The car is certainly a departure from the usual curvy Tata hatchbacks. Hope the platform is lighter.
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So they'll have five 1.2 petrol engines in production?
High time they consolidate. 1 NA version, 2 regular turbo and one special turbo?
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And, the images have been copied to a Rushlane article, already. No credits except for the watermark already here.
Bottom of their article has a source mentioned with a link to your post.
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The 45x in production guise. Complete with finished lamps, alloy wheels and interiors. Couldn't get closer as I was being honked at.

In Coimbatore, about 20 minutes ago.


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Which bunk was this at?
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