Coming up next : Swift Diesel very soon.

sreedotk · 7th January 2007, 20:28

63 bhp might be the achilles heel for this Swift as the Logan is rumored to be making 70 bhp and is supposedly having fantastic Fuel efficiency.

Fiat Punto range in Europe pegs this engine at 70 Bhp. So did Fiat sell the older generation engine tech to GM/Suzuki and are planning to bring the newer 70 bhp and VVT version 90 bhp to india.That would be a master stroke for Tata and Fiat

theMAG · 7th January 2007, 21:10

I'm not sure if a Swift/Getz diesels priced at around 6.5 lac will take off currently. Probably another year down the line should mature the market for the premium-compact diesels.

navdeep · 7th January 2007, 21:23

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Originally Posted by theMAG

I'm not sure if a Swift/Getz diesels priced at around 6.5 lac will take off currently. Probably another year down the line should mature the market for the premium-compact diesels.

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I am not sure of thier success if priced above 6lakhs. People will have other options like Logan,Indigo Dicor and New Palio with same engine.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 7th January 2007, 22:32

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Originally Posted by sreedotk

63 bhp might be the achilles heel for this Swift as the Logan is rumored to be making 70 bhp and is supposedly having fantastic Fuel efficiency.

Fiat Punto range in Europe pegs this engine at 70 Bhp. So did Fiat sell the older generation engine tech to GM/Suzuki and are planning to bring the newer 70 bhp and VVT version 90 bhp to india.That would be a master stroke for Tata and Fiat

Yes... That would be a master stroke... BUT unfortunately... I think you got the petrol and diesel specifications mixed up... Its Fiat JTD diesel, that is DDiS for Suzuki... Its the new one only...

And... VVT is suzuki name for variable valve timing used in their petrol engines... Like honda's famous VTec, and hyundai's VTVT...

WATCH NDTV PROFIT CAR AND BIKE SHOW... They are showing Swift diesel...

dipen · 7th January 2007, 22:33

63 bhp will make it only as fast as the Indiaa turbo with 70ps. Swift has the weight advantage. But it will be priced at least 70-80 k more than the Indica turbo. I guess Swift diesel VXI ABS will be approx 5.25-5.35 on road Mumbai.

harsh87 · 7th January 2007, 23:03

anything above 6L would be too high a price for this car nd I've seen Renault commercials have already started airing on most channels so we can expect the launch of Logan soon

Tech · 8th January 2007, 09:26

5 lacs is the sweetest price for base Swift Diesel VXi that most Indians will love it. Though 5.3 may be with more goodies.

maxbhp · 8th January 2007, 09:42

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Originally Posted by dipen

63 bhp will make it only as fast as the Indiaa turbo with 70ps. Swift has the weight advantage. But it will be priced at least 70-80 k more than the Indica turbo. I guess Swift diesel VXI ABS will be approx 5.25-5.35 on road Mumbai.

PS rating is a way of determining , just a way .Its not what decides perfomance .There are other factors to be taken into account like short/long ratio gearing , quality of gearshifts , Whether initial turbo lag is present ? , Whether the engine has wide /narrow power band . Am telling you am driving a 63 bhp Sienna but I am sure getting a stock Fiesta diesel is not much of a trouble for me

mtnrajdeep · 8th January 2007, 10:24

I was watching the ticker in CNBC-TV18 and it mentioned that the swift diesel engine will be a 75 bhp one. It also mentioned that the diesel engine will be exported to Hungary from mid-07 onwards!

navdeep · 8th January 2007, 10:52

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Originally Posted by mtnrajdeep

I was watching the ticker in CNBC-TV18 and it mentioned that the swift diesel engine will be a 75 bhp one. It also mentioned that the diesel engine will be exported to Hungary from mid-07 onwards!

even I noticed that.

Ajay_J · 8th January 2007, 11:37

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Originally Posted by navdeep

even I noticed that.

And I too have seen this news on CNBC ticker. ALso that they want to produce 3-lac diesal engine per year.

jkdas · 8th January 2007, 12:36

A dealer frm Kerala told me last week that it would be launched soon and to post about this at tbhp only this week.Coz a Kerala dealer knows about it, the car maybe available in Kerala too

Rodeo · 8th January 2007, 12:50

It should be priced close to Palio diesel as both the cars are of same category so it should cost around 5.3 on road hyderabad. I dont think there is much cost difference between Palio 1.2 petrol and Swift petrol.

jkdas · 8th January 2007, 13:39

should be 5.5lac up for base model

I would suggest that one wait for the 90bhp real thing with Punto instead of the 70bhp Swift!!!

Imagine a Hyundai Santro 70bhp CRDi next to a 70bhp Swift but at a lower price. 2007 gonna be fun.

speedzak · 8th January 2007, 13:57

I am shocked to see this car being launched so earlier. Yes, Maruti had this plans for sometime. But I never expected it to happen on time.
All the Maruti/Suzuki people I spoke to regarding this have confirmed that the car will be launched this month. Here the launch seems to be the last week of Jan.

This car would solve the thirst of all looking for a problem free diesel hatchback. The car will have enough power. Even if it's 70bhp I think It'll match the pleasure of Petrol 1.3 swift but a bit watered down. The torque will be fun though.

Pete's! Shall we have a tuning box for this? Turboindia! Are you listening?

7th January 2007, 20:28	#16
sreedotk BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 248 Thanked: 90 Times	63 bhp might be the achilles heel for this Swift as the Logan is rumored to be making 70 bhp and is supposedly having fantastic Fuel efficiency. Fiat Punto range in Europe pegs this engine at 70 Bhp. So did Fiat sell the older generation engine tech to GM/Suzuki and are planning to bring the newer 70 bhp and VVT version 90 bhp to india.That would be a master stroke for Tata and Fiat
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7th January 2007, 21:10	#17
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,196 Thanked: 1,821 Times View My Garage	I'm not sure if a Swift/Getz diesels priced at around 6.5 lac will take off currently. Probably another year down the line should mature the market for the premium-compact diesels.
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7th January 2007, 22:33	#20
dipen Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 2,304 Thanked: 975 Times	63 bhp will make it only as fast as the Indiaa turbo with 70ps. Swift has the weight advantage. But it will be priced at least 70-80 k more than the Indica turbo. I guess Swift diesel VXI ABS will be approx 5.25-5.35 on road Mumbai.
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7th January 2007, 23:03	#21
harsh87 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 169 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	anything above 6L would be too high a price for this car nd I've seen Renault commercials have already started airing on most channels so we can expect the launch of Logan soon
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8th January 2007, 09:26	#22
Tech BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: India Posts: 244 Thanked: 90 Times	5 lacs is the sweetest price for base Swift Diesel VXi that most Indians will love it. Though 5.3 may be with more goodies.
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8th January 2007, 10:24	#24
mtnrajdeep BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 955 Thanked: 405 Times View My Garage	I was watching the ticker in CNBC-TV18 and it mentioned that the swift diesel engine will be a 75 bhp one. It also mentioned that the diesel engine will be exported to Hungary from mid-07 onwards!
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8th January 2007, 12:36	#27
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	A dealer frm Kerala told me last week that it would be launched soon and to post about this at tbhp only this week.Coz a Kerala dealer knows about it, the car maybe available in Kerala too
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8th January 2007, 12:50	#28
Rodeo BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 356 Thanked: 28 Times	It should be priced close to Palio diesel as both the cars are of same category so it should cost around 5.3 on road hyderabad. I dont think there is much cost difference between Palio 1.2 petrol and Swift petrol.
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8th January 2007, 13:39	#29
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	should be 5.5lac up for base model I would suggest that one wait for the 90bhp real thing with Punto instead of the 70bhp Swift!!! Imagine a Hyundai Santro 70bhp CRDi next to a 70bhp Swift but at a lower price. 2007 gonna be fun.
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8th January 2007, 13:57	#30
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,346 Thanked: 29 Times	I am shocked to see this car being launched so earlier. Yes, Maruti had this plans for sometime. But I never expected it to happen on time. All the Maruti/Suzuki people I spoke to regarding this have confirmed that the car will be launched this month. Here the launch seems to be the last week of Jan. This car would solve the thirst of all looking for a problem free diesel hatchback. The car will have enough power. Even if it's 70bhp I think It'll match the pleasure of Petrol 1.3 swift but a bit watered down. The torque will be fun though. Pete's! Shall we have a tuning box for this? Turboindia! Are you listening?
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