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Old 17th April 2020, 19:03   #106
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According to Zac Hollis, Brand Director, Skoda Auto India, the launch of the fourth generation Octavia could now happen in early 2021.

The 4th-gen Skoda Octavia. EDIT: India launch pushed to 2021-octavia.jpg

The new Octavia was initially expected to be launched in October 2020. However, the outbreak of the Covid-19 pandemic has forced Skoda to reschedule future launches.

The fourth-generation Octavia was unveiled in November, last year. The car features a new grille that has a chrome frame and twin-pod LED headlights with L-shaped LED daytime running lights. The redesigned front bumper houses a pair of fog lamps. At the rear, the new Octavia gets redesigned LED tail lights and bumper. The boot lid now has the Skoda lettering in the centre instead of the circular logo. It also gets an all-new interior with a 10-inch touchscreen infotainment head-unit.

In India, the new Octavia could be offered with a 2.0-litre, turbo petrol engine paired with a 7-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission. A smaller 1.5-litre turbo petrol unit could be introduced later.

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Old 17th April 2020, 21:25   #107
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According to Zac Hollis, Brand Director, Skoda Auto India, the launch of the fourth generation Octavia could now happen in early 2021.
Befitting the Indian D1 sedan segment in line with global trends. Now we have only the hideous old & new Elantra (both are shall we say an acquired taste) and the quintessentially Jap 'ricer' sporty looking but grossly underpowered Civic.

Should immediately stimulate at least Honda to get their high end turbo-petrol engines (Type-R anyone), but I fear they have given up a long time back.

D2 sedan segment still looks alive with the upcoming Superb & Passat 2.0 TSI but no diesels which removes 80% of the addressable market.

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Makes sense. The auto sales are going to have the worst year ever in 2020 in India. Automakers will struggle with capacities and inventory reduction.

I think many will now postpone launches.

It will be a great year to buy cars on massive discounts by the end of the year but that is if you have money and the heart in this gloomy situation.

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Old 18th April 2020, 13:29   #109
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Guess most other manufacturers would soon follow suit.They all may be redrawing their strategy on the seasonableness of various launches that were in the pipeline. Some may be forced ones too owing to the supply chains and logistics being in disarray since last couple of months, thanks to the Covid pandemic.

Skoda had more upcoming launches than any - Rapid , Karoq , Kodiaq TSI.
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It was an obvious decision. D1 segment is not a big mover and launching the car this year wouldn't have garnered too much attention thanks to the troubled economy and pessimistic sentiment amongst the customers.

There could be logistic problems as well like sourcing parts from local vendors for a new model. I think many other companies will push new launches next year and will concentrate on pushing inventories this year as much as possible.

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2 lt TSI will be a killer. Not sure if the RS will end up providing diminishing returns to the buyer
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My bet is that the Octavia will not get a 2 Litre TSI engine in India, but will get the 1.5 Litre TSI instead. In the UK, it is being offered primarily with 1.0 TSI, 1.5 TSI variants as mainstream ones, with an option of a top end 2.0 TSI model. In India, IMO, they would launch a barebones 1.0 TSI Active variant with manual transmission, the 1.5 TSI Ambition variant with a choice of manual or 7 speed DSG transmissions and an Elegance variant with the 1.5 TSI + DSG only.No diesels at least initially, given the delays in localizing this engine and the general allergy they seem to have developed towards their own diesels in India. The 2.0 TSI will be reserved for the VRS to be imported periodically in batches. No point in diluting this halo model with a mainstream variant having the same engine. This strategy also gives them the advantage of using the locally manufactured 1.0 TSI engine to keep the prices of the entry variant down.

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My bet is that the Octavia will not get a 2 Litre TSI engine in India, but will get the 1.5 Litre TSI instead. In the UK, it is being offered primarily with 1.0 TSI, 1.5 TSI variants as mainstream ones, with an option of a top end 2.0 TSI model. In India, IMO, they would launch a barebones 1.0 TSI Active variant with manual transmission, the 1.5 TSI Ambition variant with a choice of manual or 7 speed DSG transmissions and an Elegance variant with the 1.5 TSI + DSG only.
1.0TSI on a car costing 20lac and upwards? I was thinking even 1.5TSi will spoil the party no matter how much power it will generate. D segment truly needs a bigger engine to distinguish it from C segment.
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1.0TSI on a car costing 20lac and upwards? I was thinking even 1.5TSi will spoil the party no matter how much power it will generate. D segment truly needs a bigger engine to distinguish it from C segment.
Remember VW's 1.0 TSI, is very flexible. It won the international engine of the year award in 2018. It has 2 different states of tune:
  • 95 hp, 175 NM
  • 115 hp, 200 NM
The Octavia will definitely get the higher of the two states of tune above.

In comparison, the competitors have the following power ratings:
  • Civic - 1.8 NA engine makes 140 hp and 174 NM torque
  • Elantra - 2.0 NA engine making 150 HP and 196 NM torque

So, though the 1.0 TSI will deliver somewhat lower horsepower than the Civic and Elantra, it will deliver superior torque and low-end response. So it should not feel so under-powered compared to the Civic and the Elantra. Of course, those who want higher power can go for the higher variants with the 1.5 TSI engine, which easily outguns the Civic and Elantra both in power and torque.

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Remember VW's 1.0 TSI, is very flexible. It won the international engine of the year award in 2018. It has 2 different states of tune:
  • 95 hp, 175 NM
  • 115 hp, 200 NM

So, though the 1.0 TSI will deliver somewhat lower horsepower than the Civic and Elantra, it will deliver superior torque and low-end response. So it should not feel so under-powered compared to the Civic and the Elantra. Of course, those who want higher power can go for the higher variants with the 1.5 TSI engine, which easily outguns the Civic and Elantra both in power and torque.
115HP 1.0L engine will be a big no not just from enthusiast but also from regular Joe. This also puts Octavia from top of the chart to bottom. Even Grand i10 comes with similar spec engine and costs half the price or less. Skoda will completely ruin all the reputation it has built around Octavia. Civic despite coming with decent 1.8L and 150HP has lost its pedigree among enthusiast. Luckily it's not a downgrade from previous model.
Remember VW offered 1.4TSI in Jetta and didn't do quite well. Octavia being Skoda's cash cow, will be surprised if they offer 1.0L.
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My bet is that the Octavia will not get a 2 Litre TSI engine in India, but will get the 1.5 Litre TSI instead.
Zac Hollis in a live chat with Autocar recently mentioned that the new Octavia will get the 2.0 TSI engine with DSG initially, and 1.5TSI in manual variants later.

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Hollis added that while the new Octavia will only get the 190hp, 2.0-litre TSI turbo-petrol engine at launch, the company could look at offering more engine options going forward
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Remember VW's 1.0 TSI, is very flexible. It won the international engine of the year award in 2018. It has 2 different states of tune:
  • 95 hp, 175 NM
  • 115 hp, 200 NM
The Octavia will definitely get the higher of the two states of tune above.
The 1L Tsi in both states of tune would be made in India and will power cars/SUVs from both VW and Skoda stable, based on the MQB AO IN platform only.
The next gen Octavia like the current (phased out) model will be a CKD import & minimum it will sport is the 1.5L Tsi (148 HP) mill and possibly the top of the line model will come with the 2L (190 HP) Tsi engine ( like the new Superb) & perhaps even a diesel at a later stage.
The RS model, as & when made available in small batches, would be a plug in hybrid, featuring an electric motor mated to 1.4L Turbo charged petrol engine thereby producing 242 HP & 400 NM. of Torque & a pure electric range of 55 KMs.

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Does anyone have any information on the new vRS 2020 as well? I wanted to know if it would be coming to India and if it does, will it be in the PHEV variant. Seems to me that Skoda is only thinking of the PHEV variant for the vRS.
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Does anyone have any information on the new vRS 2020 as well? I wanted to know if it would be coming to India and if it does, will it be in the PHEV variant. Seems to me that Skoda is only thinking of the PHEV variant for the vRS.
Too early to tell what the future hold. The regular Octavia is delayed to 2021 and VRS was planned a year later so it should be 2022.

However Skoda they said PHEV powertrains are not planned for India as govt. doesn't subsidize hybrid powertrains so they will not be getting PHEV variants to India.
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I was watching this in-depth video of the Octavia 1V a couple of days back and the car definitely has a long list of enjoyable & clever features including a powered tailgate door and a hydraulic engine bonnet with dampeners, which I was not aware off. Now with the 2.0 L TSI being confirmed for India (although launch delayed to early 2021), this is going to be one heck of a machine. Seeing how quickly the 200 pieces of the current generation VRS have got sold out @36L ex-showroom, & if Skoda can get the new model with the 2.0L TSI 190 BHP engine mated to the DQ 380/381 gearbox at an ex-showroom price of around 29 L , they will have an absolute winner on their hands. There is nothing that can come anywhere close to it for sure, except for the high-end luxury cars which cost an arm & a leg more !
The interior pic. here is of the new RS model but is not very different from the the regular one, except for the flat bottom steering and the stitching on the seats & the accelerator pedal.
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